2016 MLB thread. THE CUBS HAVE BROKEN THE CURSE! Chicago Cubs are your 2016 World Series champions

[dland24]

@dland24  with a fresh out the oven hot take.

I dont even think its that much of a hot take.  Look at the list I just posted.  Can you honestly say that you would 100% take Sonny over any of those listed?

But I brought it up because my colleague was running his mouth again calling Sonny one of the best in the game.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

MadBum is better than King Felix though

 

[johnnyredstorm]

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@dland24
 with a fresh out the oven hot take.

I dont even think its that much of a hot take.  Look at the list I just posted.  Can you honestly say that you would 100% take Sonny over any of those listed?

But I brought it up because my colleague was running his mouth again calling Sonny one of the best in the game.

Cueto and maybe Stroman.

 

[dland24]

MadBum is better than King Felix though

Must we do this again?  You just cant help yourself but talk trash to Mariner fans.  

 

 

 

[checks grossman]

 
Because I fail to see how what I said was as ridiculous as your Bumgarner comparison.

1. Clayton Kershaw
2.  
3. Madison Bumgarner
4. Johnny Cueto
5.  
6. Jake Arrieta
7. Jon Lester
8.  
9. Jacob deGrom
10.  
11. Noah Syndergaard
12. Max Scherzer
13. Stephen Strasburg
14. Dallas Keuchel
15. Felix Hernandez
16. Corey Kluber
17. Chris Sale
18. Chris Archer
19.  
20. David Price

I would take every one of these pitchers over Sonny Gray currently.

These are the only guys from your list I'd currently take over Gray

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

Because I fail to see how what I said was as ridiculous as your Bumgarner comparison.

1. Clayton Kershaw
2. Zack Greinke
3. Madison Bumgarner
4. Johnny Cueto
5. Gerrit Cole
6. Jake Arrieta
7. Jon Lester
8. Jose Fernandez
9. Jacob deGrom
10. Matt Harvey
11. Noah Syndergaard
12. Max Scherzer
13. Stephen Strasburg
14. Dallas Keuchel
15. Felix Hernandez
16. Corey Kluber
17. Chris Sale
18. Chris Archer
19. Marcus Stroman
20. David Price

I would take every one of these pitchers over Sonny Gray currently.

Cueto top 5? Top 10 yes but I don't know about top 5.

 

[dland24]

 

 

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@dland24
 with a fresh out the oven hot take.

I dont even think its that much of a hot take.  Look at the list I just posted.  Can you honestly say that you would 100% take Sonny over any of those listed?

But I brought it up because my colleague was running his mouth again calling Sonny one of the best in the game.

Cueto and maybe Stroman.

I dont agree.  JC has been one of the best pitchers in baseball for the last 5 years.  I can buy Stroman, but I prefer him to Sonny.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

MadBum is better than King Felix though

Must we do this again?  You just cant help yourself but talk trash to Mariner fans.      

I'm not talking trash though.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

 

 

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@dland24


 with a fresh out the oven hot take.

I dont even think its that much of a hot take.  Look at the list I just posted.  Can you honestly say that you would 100% take Sonny over any of those listed?


But I brought it up because my colleague was running his mouth again calling Sonny one of the best in the game.

Cueto and maybe Stroman.

I dont agree.  JC has been one of the best pitchers in baseball for the last 5 years.  I can buy Stroman, but I prefer him to Sonny.

Past five years I'll give you Cueto, going forward, not sure. Stroman is a toss up.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

sonny hasn't been we good ad he was this time ladies year

 

[dland24]

 

Because I fail to see how what I said was as ridiculous as your Bumgarner comparison.

1. Clayton Kershaw
2. Zack Greinke
3. Madison Bumgarner
4. Johnny Cueto
5. Gerrit Cole
6. Jake Arrieta
7. Jon Lester
8. Jose Fernandez
9. Jacob deGrom
10. Matt Harvey
11. Noah Syndergaard
12. Max Scherzer
13. Stephen Strasburg
14. Dallas Keuchel
15. Felix Hernandez
16. Corey Kluber
17. Chris Sale
18. Chris Archer
19. Marcus Stroman
20. David Price

I would take every one of these pitchers over Sonny Gray currently.

Cueto top 5? Top 10 yes but I don't know about top 5.

This isnt a ranking 1-20 dude.  LOL  Just a list of 20.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

my bad

 

[champcruthik]

You guys are forgetting Yu Darvish. I personally wouldn't take Gray over Waino, Hamels, Carrasco either.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Waino scares me so far. I was thinking Hamels, but put him on that same tier.

 

[champcruthik]

Waino scares me so far. I was thinking Hamels, but put him on that same tier.

I have Gray just above guys like Tyson Ross and Richards. Boston is going to trade for him inevitably, with Oakland's wealth and depth of starting arms.

 

[dland24]

You guys are forgetting Yu Darvish. I personally wouldn't take Gray over Waino, Hamels, Carrasco either.

Oh I totally agree with this Champ.  I have another list of pitchers (Darvish, Wainwright, Hamels, Carrasco, Salazar, Martinez) that I have as debatable pitchers.  Which is why my original comment was Sonny is barely being a top 25 pitcher.

 

[dland24]

my bad

Its cool I should have clarified.  I just went division by division and happened to pick the NL West first.

 

[checks grossman]

Nah to waino. Cmon. Are you judging on current performance or overall body of work?

 

[dland24]

Nah to waino. Cmon. Are you judging on current performance or overall body of work?

I was going off of current.  Wainwright and Gray to me currently is close, but I probably lean Gray.

 

[champcruthik]

Nah to waino. Cmon. Are you judging on current performance or overall body of work?

It's easy to bag on Waino because he's struggling and 34 years old, but the man is a fortress in the playoffs. That matters to me. So I'm judging both on track record but also right now. I would not take Gray over Waino in a playoff-defining G7.

 

[jumpmanfromdabay]

Huh? Obviously Autocorrect

 

[jewbacca2]

Cubs and Pirates at it again 

Sean Rodriguez is a joke 

 

[j rain]

About to cop me a Murphy jersey. Dude stings the ball every ab. Been awesome to watch.

 

[madj55]

Surprised it took this long for Murph to make his first error. Hitting .400 makes up for it.

 

[champcruthik]

Surprised it took this long for Murph to make his first error. Hitting .400 makes up for it.

It's the inevitable trade-off with Murph. So far both Murphy & Walker have panned out for their respective NL East teams.