2020-21 NBA Offseason thread: Officially a wrap

[DCAllAfrican]

It just seems like some of his fans can't take a joke or handle him getting the same type of criticism anybody else does

Not sure how that is any different than fans of Kobe/LeBron/Luka or any other polarizing athlete.

That isn't exclusive to Steph Curry. It is wild that yall make it out to be a Steph exclusive thing.

 

[storm2006]

See this the type of post Ayesha and them end up taking seriously and then we need to devote pages upon pages talking about unnecessarily

Don't let him off the hook. Don't give him rope to say, "I was playing."

Let him defend his point.

He is a regular and show know better. Only HIM and BIG LEEMELONE are allowed to make sarcastic scorching hot take posts otherwise it gets way too confusing.

Legitimately if HIM made the post that Public Enemy did about Steph that started all this then there would have been no discussion. Need him to be more active in times like these.

 

[D StaXX]

Bro...THAT is not the f’n discussion . Steph can and should get and be better. Nobody is discounting that. Or saying he shouldn’t have expectations and a bar to reach. That is obvious EVERY season. You should add to your resume, and the hunger to get more should be there.

But Implying he has to carry this Warriors team to the playoffs, as something HE needs to “prove” is just a terrible take. There are a lot of discussions around this. And it’s the wrong framing.

This has nothing to do with being a fan or not being a fan etc.

Ehh.. I didn’t take the OG post as disrespect, but I guess it depends on how you look at it. I think Steph is THAT good and despite Klay going down, I expect him to pull his team to the playoffs. He’s only 32, and many have named him the greatest point guard ever. So while he doesn’t need to prove anything, I think it’s a bad look if he doesn’t make the playoffs. He may have to do some heavy lifting again, but he should be well rested after last year.

Why does it matter which team is better? 21 Warriors vs. 19 Lakers.

This question goes to those on both sides of the argument.

Because people expected Lebron to make the playoffs with that roster and when that didn’t happen, the slander was out in full force. It’s crazy some of the people defending Steph, are the same ones that we’re typing with their chest out ****ting on Lebron. I still remember all that Lebron ain’t built for the West and fraud talk.

 

[wavycrocket]

Ehh.. I didn’t take the OG post as disrespect, but I guess it depends on how you look at it. I think Steph is THAT good and despite Klay going down, I expect him to pull his team to the playoffs. He’s only 32, and many have named him the greatest point guard ever. So while he doesn’t need to prove anything, I think it’s a bad look if he doesn’t make the playoffs. He may have to do some heavy lifting again, but he should be well rested after last year.




Because people expected Lebron to make the playoffs with that roster and when that didn’t happen, the slander was out in full force. It’s crazy some of the people defending Steph, are the same ones that we’re typing with their chest out ****ting on Lebron. I still remember all that Lebron ain’t built for the West and fraud talk.

We really are not even having the same discussion at this point

Notice how, it goes to “defending” and “caping” again. Y’all gotta be more capable of having this discussion without viewing it in THESE lenses.

The framing is completely off smh.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Not sure how that is any different than fans of Kobe/LeBron/Luka or any other polarizing athlete.

That isn't exclusive to Steph Curry. It is wild that yall make it out to be a Steph exclusive thing.

That's exactly the point . It's no different than any other star player but people try to act like it is

 

[BIG FISH]

If Wiggins and Oubre were on rookie deals, the Warriors could absolutely put together a package similar to the Lakers’ one for AD... trade value is more than on court production lol
Also when y’all try to throw shots at Bron for missing the playoffs in 2019 y’all completely disregard the fact that he himself missed significant time, as well as Ingram and Lonzo

fact of thematter is.. if Steph is in that top tier like y’all say, he absolutely has enough around him to make the playoffs.
I promise y’all don’t have to do the thing where y’all diminish his supporting cast in an effort to prop him up... same ish y’all clown Bron fans for doing lol

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

And then Imma need somebody to point out exactly what the hate was to spark this whole thing anyway.

 

[Based Jesus]

Idk why people keep defending the original post when you could easily peep the thinly veiled implications that he blatantly expressed in subsequent posts. The man said Steph in 2021 had to live up to the things people were saying about him in 2016. Said Steph needed to prove he deserved to have a sig shoe. Calling that out isn't caping or being weird. I'd hope we all call out **** like that

 

[wavycrocket]

If Wiggins and Oubre were on rookie deals, the Warriors could absolutely put together a package similar to the Lakers’ one for AD... trade value is more than on court production lol
Also when y’all try to throw shots at Bron for missing the playoffs in 2019 y’all completely disregard the fact that he himself missed significant time, as well as Ingram and Lonzo

fact of thematter is.. if Steph is in that top tier like y’all say, he absolutely has enough around him to make the playoffs.
I promise y’all don’t have to do the thing where y’all diminish his supporting cast in an effort to prop him up... same ish y’all clown Bron fans for doing lol

Who is doing what you are saying?

 

[BIG FISH]

Who is doing what you are saying?

storm2006

 

[ill steelo]

Nate looked like he didn’t have any sort of training camp.

This **** is called the sweet science. You gotta respect the game

 

[B Sox]

These were the original posts. Then Wavy came in talking about how he doesn't have to prove anything when nobody even said anything about that. The other answer folks were giving was Kawhi and nobody else was crying about that. It's common sense that he doesn't have anything to prove. He has multiple FMVPs. Just has high expectations especially after what happened last year.

Among others, Steph. So many people acted like he was the greatest ever after those couple years. Year 11 (and really year 10 since he only played 5 games), you're getting your own brand akin to Jordan Brand, you have a top draft pick alongside you, a coach who has won multiple rings as a player and multiple rings as a coach, and a teammate with multiple championships under his belt. Playoffs is a minimum. They should gentlemans sweep the first round and win multiple games in the second.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Among others, Steph. So many people acted like he was the greatest ever after those couple years. Year 11 (and really year 10 since he only played 5 games), you're getting your own brand akin to Jordan Brand, you have a top draft pick alongside you, a coach who has won multiple rings as a player and multiple rings as a coach, and a teammate with multiple championships under his belt. Playoffs is a minimum. They should gentlemans sweep the first round and win multiple games in the second.

There's nothing wild or hot takey about this. This is not worth getting worked up over. It's just not

 

[Based Jesus]

So thinly veiled
***** was dogwhistling all over the place

 

[D StaXX]

Yeah I'm not seeing what the fuss is about at all.
Like waaaay worse things have been said on here about Bron, Harden, Kobe etc.
He's the GREATEST POINT GUARD ever right.. playoffs at minimum? What's the problem with that?
That's not a hot take at all imo.

 

[HOU$TON]

Curry finally doesn’t have a juggernaut and now it’s no expectations

 

[BIG FISH]

Nah being real there is a certain tone to that post

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I can't even get wavycrocket to tell me what he expects from Steph this season . More or less than what you expected from Bron the past two seasons? That's all I ask

 

[wavycrocket]

These were the original posts. Then Wavy came in talking about how he doesn't have to prove anything when nobody even said anything about that. The other answer folks were giving was Kawhi and nobody else was crying about that. It's common sense that he doesn't have anything to prove. He has multiple FMVPs. Just has high expectations especially after what happened last year.

I Just posted highlights from 2012-2014

Curry finally doesn’t have a juggernaut and now it’s no expectations

Remember this juggernaut

 

[wavycrocket]

I can't even get wavycrocket to tell me what he expects from Steph this season . More or less than what you expected from Bron the past two seasons? That's all I ask

28/7/5 leading a contender

 

[B Sox]

Like, what's even an appropriate answer to the original question that won't cause dudes to throw a tantrum?

 

[antidope]

Average a triple double. Nothing else will be of consequence. The wins and losses. The context.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

28/7/5 leading a contender

Same here. Light MVP talks. No contender but top 4 or 5 at the least

 

[DCAllAfrican]

fact of thematter is.. if Steph is in that top tier like y’all say, he absolutely has enough around him to make the playoffs.
I promise y’all don’t have to do the thing where y’all diminish his supporting cast in an effort to prop him up... same ish y’all clown Bron fans for doing lol

So when it comes to the, "Has enough around him" debate, are you at least willing to acknowledge

A. Detractors will generally overstate how good the supporting cast is

B. Supporters will generally understate how good the supporting cast is

Thus making THIS part of the convo a highly biased.

Since there is no true way to measure how strong the supporting cast is.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Yeah I'm not seeing what the fuss is about at all.
Like waaaay worse things have been said on here about Bron, Harden, Kobe etc.
He's the GREATEST POINT GUARD ever right.. playoffs at minimum? What's the problem with that?
That's not a hot take at all imo.

You know that isn't ALL what was said though.