2021 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: Media Day...SHENANIGANS

[QU!K]

Will DWade make the Top 75

 

[freeze]

Kyrie has a more CREATIVE handle. That is literally it

Literally it. Curry better in every quantifiable way.

 

[danikerhino]

Will DWade make the Top 75

He doesn't quite have the longevity, but I think he does based on his chips alone and carrying the Heat for the first half of his career.

 

[B Sox]

Wade is absolutely making the top 75

 

[sohi 23]

Wade is absolutely making the top 75

Not even a debate.
Carter, Allen, TMac, Ginobli are worth a discussion.

 

[freeze]

Harden better.

 

[B Sox]

Not even a debate.
Carter, Allen, TMac, Ginobli are worth a discussion.

Manu has no shot.

Vince probably not.

Think TMac and Ray get in.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

He isn't good enough to be talking like this.

 

[storm2006]

Thread gonna be MOVING this day

I'm here for the energy

I’m curious…why do you think it will be hectic? It’s not a numbered list so are saying that due to the snubs? I don’t see anyone of note from the previous Top 50 list being removed that would cause an uproar but I could potentially see some snubs that rustle jimmies. The posts a few up from this about Wade already show there’s going to be some disagreements

 

[D StaXX]

Steph >>> Dame > Kyrie

 

[elpablo21]

I’m curious…why do you think it will be hectic? It’s not a numbered list so are saying that due to the snubs? I don’t see anyone of note from the previous Top 50 list being removed that would cause an uproar but I could potentially see some snubs that rustle jimmies. The posts a few up from this about Wade already show there’s going to be some disagreements

The list will not be ranked but the thread will take care of that

I feel like most new additions will be recent players but this does add a window for older guys like sohi 23 mentioned with Nique (and others which may lead to "snubs")

And there's gonna be a few surprises because these list kind of always try to preserve lanes for the very early guys. NFL 100 had some head scratchers for that exact reason

 

[ill steelo]

Not even a debate.
Carter, Allen, TMac, Ginobli are worth a discussion.

Manu’s career average is 13 ppg. He’s not even in consideration.

Vince & Ray are top 30 all time in points. Locks

Mac’s peak was way too short. Zero second round playoff games. I’d be surprised

 

[shotsrangout]

Could argue wade is better than Kobe

 

[storm2006]

There’s an added element to this - it looks like in addition to the Top 50 Greatest Players they also selected Top 10 Best Coaches and Top 10 Best Teams…..Any changes?

Spoiler: Top 10 Coaches

1. Red Auerbach
2. Chuck Daly
3. Bill Fitch
4. Red Holzman
5. Phil Jackson
6. John Kundla
7. Don Nelson
8. Jack Ramsay
9. Pay Riley
10. Lenny Wilkens

Spoiler: Top 10 Teams

1. 64-65 Celtics
2. 66-67 Sixers
3. 69-70 Knicks
4. 71-72 Lakers
5. 82-83 Sixers
6. 85-86 Celtics
7. 86-87 Lakers
8. 88-89 Pistons
9. 91-92 Bulls
10. 95-96 Bulls

Interesting note about the Top 10 Teams:
The list was compiled based upon unranked selection undertaken exclusively by members of the print and broadcast media who regularly cover the NBA. Teams were chosen from among all single-season individual teams. Each team won the NBA championship, and they combined to average 66 wins per season. The 1995–96 Chicago Bulls had, at the moment, the best single-season record in NBA history with 72 wins.

 

[danikerhino]

Could argue wade is better than Kobe

Who would argue that?

 

[RustyShackleford]

I am interested to see if Dominque makes it in

 

[B Sox]

Manu’s career average is 13 ppg. He’s not even in consideration.

Vince & Ray are top 30 all time in points. Locks

Mac’s peak was way too short. Zero second round playoff games. I’d be surprised

TMac vs Vince is an interesting debate. Vince has the longevity in his favor.

TMac has 7x All-NBA and 6 top 8 (Used this because 8 was his lowest one) MVP finishes.
Vince only has 2x All-NBA and ZERO top 8 MVP finishes.

They were contemporaries. When they were both at their peaks, TMac was much better. I'm giving more weight to that than longevity.

 

[ballinsam23]

They expanded it to top 75, so I dont think that list will be that controversial. All they gotta do is add 25 new players since 1997.

If they kept it at top 50 though….

 

[elpablo21]

Pop gets added to the coach list

Team list will be interesting because you have Shaq and Kobe Lakers, Spurs and Dubs with multiple seasons but they're not gonna wipe out all those older teams for the sake of representation.

 

[wavycrocket]

He isn't good enough to be talking like this.

This ain’t the first time. Devin Booker, is also apparently more Skilled than Steph Curry as well. According to Mike James last year

 

[shotsrangout]

Is wade not in the same stratosphere as Kobe?

this why I don’t even come in here no more. Y’all so biased

 

[dacomeup]

He’s horrible. Can’t move anymore.

 

[rbk93]

Is wade not in the same stratosphere as Kobe?

No.

Wade might be slightly overrated.

 

[dacomeup]

Will DWade make the Top 75

This really isn’t a question.

 

[datznasty]

Dion Waiters punching Kyrie in d face wasn't a rumor, it was confirmed iirc. That was when Jarrett Jack and Luol Deng were the vets (also has issues with Kyrie) and had to call a few player's only meetings/interventions about Kyrie.