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I think it’s crazy how Cade still held on to the #1 spot since like September despite not being as athletic as the other top prospects :lol:
 


2022 NBA mock draft: The early No. 1 pick battle, plus emerging international prospects

While not considered a banner group early on, the 2022 draft class is beginning to grow on NBA personnel, despite the limited in-person scouting opportunities over the past year.

This has proven to be a difficult class to evaluate. Several top prospects -- such as top-10 candidate A.J. Griffin and Patrick Baldwin Jr. -- have barely played in the past 12 to 14 months due to COVID-19 restrictions or injuries. Others, including UCLA-bound Peyton Watson, started their high school seasons only this past weekend.

The traditional high school all-star game circuit (McDonald's, Hoop Summit, Jordan Brand) was canceled, and other national showcases and camps have been severely limited. By this point, NBA teams can usually start building their scouting files with significant amounts of data from FIBA tournaments, the Nike EYBL or other AAU events. Without those at hand, the reputations of those in the 2022 draft class will hinge almost entirely on their performance in college, with the G League Ignite or in international leagues next season, which makes this early projection far more fluid at the top than usual.

Note: While the 2022 NBA draft is too far away to reasonably predict the order, we're using ESPN's Basketball Power Index's projections for the remainder of 2020-21 to help show which traded picks might convey in 2022.

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Who is No. 1?

Chet Holmgren claimed the mantle of the No. 1 player in the class prior to the pandemic, and what he has shown since has done little to dissuade that notion.

Listed at 7-foot-1 with a 7-foot-5 wingspan, Holmgren combines tantalizing perimeter skill on offense with exceptional timing as a shot-blocker. He has the ability to create his own shot, pass off a live dribble and shoot pull-up 3-pointers. Defensively, he moves like a guard, covering ground seamlessly, rotating to close out on shooters and turning his hips with impressive agility to get back into plays thanks to his quickness getting off his feet. Holmgren unquestionably has the highest upside of any prospect in this draft and has a chance to be a game-changer in the NBA with the way he bends defenses on one end and puts a lid on the rim on the other.

So what's the holdup? NBA scouts who have studied film of Holmgren, as well as analysts who have followed his development most closely, say they have some concerns about his ability to reach his full potential, particularly from a physical standpoint. At 7-foot-1, his best position in the modern game will likely be as a center, but his rail-thin 195-pound frame could be an issue going up against older and stronger big men on both ends of the floor. There are some questions about how his body might hold up long term.

In a February matchup with prep school powerhouse IMG Academy, Holmgren showed some of his limitations physically while being held to 13 points on 11 field goal attempts with 5 turnovers in a 20-point loss. He was pushed around mercilessly inside the paint and contained very effectively on his perimeter drives by Michigan-bound Moussa Diabate, a top-10 recruit in his own right. Holmgren struggled to finish around the basket, couldn't get going with his jump shot (0-for-4 3-pt FG) and had a forgettable night overall, even though he still delivered some real fireworks defensively. One game does not define a player, but the level of competition Holmgren has played against in Minnesota leaves something to be desired. The pandemic has unfortunately robbed him of opportunities to showcase how his game translates against similarly sized prospects.

Holmgren is often compared to Kristaps Porzingis, which doesn't do justice to the passing ability and overall feel for the game Holmgren possesses. However, another area in which that comparison falls short is in the strength department. Porzingis came into the NBA weighing 233 pounds as a 19-year-old, nearly 40 pounds heavier than Holmgren, who turns 19 in two weeks and will be 20 when he hears his name called on draft night in 2022 if all goes according to plan.

To Holmgren's credit, he is not one to back down from a challenge and has always been lauded for the competitiveness he brings every time he steps on the floor, which should help mitigate some of the issues he'll face strength wise. Holmgren will be in an ideal development situation at Gonzaga. He can continue to add strength this summer and then showcase his impressive versatility on both ends of the floor -- which would add some substance to his resume and prove he's not as much of a boom or bust prospect as he currently appears.

The player who seems to have closed the gap on Holmgren the most in the past few months is Duke-bound big man Paolo Banchero. Having grown to 6-foot-11, 250 pounds, Banchero could step on an NBA floor tomorrow and hold his own physically.

Over a four-day span at the Grind Session World Championship in Phoenix in early March, a competitive setting by high school standards, Banchero averaged 33 points, 12 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 blocks for BFL Prep. Less important than the numbers were the many different ways Banchero was able to impact the game, showing he has modernized his skill set significantly since the onset of the pandemic.

Banchero saw quite a bit of responsibility as a big playmaker with the freedom to push the ball off the defensive glass or initiate in the half court out of pick-and-roll, changing speeds powerfully out of hesitation moves with either hand. He has made marked improvement as a perimeter shooter, looking extremely comfortable making spot-up 3-pointers, pulling up when defenders go under ball screens or even executing difficult step-backs from NBA range. He lives at the free throw line due to his ability to create from the perimeter and punish smaller players inside, and shows terrific touch at the line or converting turnaround jumpers out of the post. He's also a capable passer who can find teammates on the move. Defensively, Banchero has outstanding timing as a drop defender in pick-and-roll, while also being able to rotate and make plays at the rim with verticality and much improved explosiveness.

Banchero doesn't have the longest wingspan and at times lacks a degree of physicality on the glass, so he will need to continue to improve his decision-making and overall polish to reach his full potential. Banchero will likely see significant minutes at power forward at Duke, where he'll team up with 7-foot-1 center and fellow projected first-round pick Mark Williams. That will give him substantial opportunity to showcase his perimeter skill set, while also potentially presenting some real challenges in terms of offensive spacing. Showing he can defend outside the paint, make good decisions with the ball and contribute to winning will go a long way in bolstering his case as the No. 1 pick.

Another player who will certainly be in the mix for the top spot is 6-foot-4 combo guard Jaden Hardy, who is expected to join the G League Ignite team next season, although no official announcement has been made.

Hardy's high school season was canceled in Nevada, and he elected to cease playing club ball in January after several impressive showcases.

While not featuring elite size, Hardy has obvious appeal as one of the most aggressive and prolific scorers in the high school game, featuring range on his pull-up, extending nearly out to half court, and the ability to get anywhere he wants on the floor operating out of hesitation moves. While his shot selection, decision making and defensive intensity leave something to be desired, Hardy's scoring instincts and shot-making prowess are tailor-made for the NBA game, and he has a star quality that can't be taught. The G League Ignite platform looks well-suited to his strengths, and he should be able to make progress addressing some of his weaknesses under the tutelage of Brian Shaw.

Depleted College Ranks

The pandemic caused many young prospects to return to college last year due to the considerable uncertainty surrounding the 2020 NBA draft, which was delayed five months and featured a severely restricted pre-draft process.

That will not be the case in 2021, as underclassmen, even those coming off disappointing seasons, have been declaring for the draft and hiring agents en masse over the past month, despite having no concrete assurances of where they'll be picked.

Only a handful of returning college players, including Purdue's Jaden Ivey, Auburn's Allen Flanigan, Arizona's Bennedict Mathurin, and Memphis' Earl Timberlake are currently projected to be drafted in the top 20 of next year's class, which is not unexpected, historically speaking.

In reality, many non-freshman college players will rise up draft boards as the season moves on, as players such as Davion Mitchell, Franz Wagner, Corey Kispert, Kai Jones, James Bouknight, Ayo Dosunmu, Jared Butler, Chris Duarte, Max Abmas and others did this past year.

International Depth

Stepping into the void created by the lack of exposure in the high school landscape and the mass exodus in the college ranks are a bevy of international prospects. While Europe and Australia have had their fair share of challenges amid the pandemic, international leagues have found ways to continue playing games for the most part, mostly without fans. In some cases, younger players have benefited from roster upheaval to carve out playing opportunities and showcase their talent for NBA scouts who can call up film from anywhere on the planet with a touch of a keystroke.

Nine international non-collegiate players are currently projected in the first round of this mock draft, which would be a record number historically if this projection holds true. While that's unlikely to be the case, it's a good indication of the amount of talent that the rest of the world is producing at the moment, as well as a signal of how much more we need to learn about players entering and returning to the college ranks.

The headliner, for now, is Congolese big man Yannick Nzosa, who has taken off in a major way while seeing significant playing time in the Spanish ACB and EuroCup for Unicaja Malaga. Nzosa's offensive game -- including his ability to make jump shots, finish out of pick-and-rolls, pass out of short-roll situations, push off the defensive glass and create his own offense in the half- court -- is improving by leaps and bounds seemingly every game. He ranks as the third-best shot-blocker in the ACB on a per-minute basis, and is drawing rave reviews for his approach to the game and maturity on and off the court by everyone he encounters. Nzosa, who has seen plenty of crunch-time minutes in important games for Malaga the past few months, has been recruited by former NBA player Jorge Garbajosa of the Spanish Basketball Federation to receive a Spanish passport, which would allow him to become a member of the national team, similar to Nikola Mirotic and Serge Ibaka. While his frame has plenty of room for improvement, and his overall polish on both ends of the floor is still a work in progress, Nzosa looks like a strong candidate to continue his upward trajectory and have a breakout season next year.

Five other international prospects will be vying for lottery consideration early on:

• 6-foot-9 guard Ousmane Dieng is playing for Parisian academy INSEP in the French third division. While his ability to create efficient offense, toughness and frame are still a work in progress, he has terrific size, is an excellent passer and shows versatility as a shot-maker. He has some versatility defensively as well. He's being recruited by teams all over the globe, including the G League Ignite.

• The MVP of the Adidas Next Generation tournament in Belgrade last month, 6-foot-10 Nikola Jovic posted fantasy numbers against his age group (29 points, 10 rebounds, 5 assists per game) before stepping into the Adriatic League and showing he can make an immediate impact with his size, feel for the game and versatility. Jovic's confidence and skill should make him a closely watched prospect playing for Mega Soccerbet next season.

• Dominican combo guard Jean Montero hasn't had many opportunities to showcase himself in the ACB thus far, and had a surprisingly disappointing showing versus his age group at the ANGT in December. Still, he has proven his mettle as an elite scorer in other settings, posting several huge games in the Spanish third division this season and showing his talent with the ball in his hands. Reportedly on the hunt for a better situation to use as a springboard in his draft-eligible year, Montero's shot-creation prowess and overall scoring instincts will cause NBA scouts to follow him regardless of where he plays next season.

• Australian Dyson Daniels, the son of American expat and NC State product Ricky Daniels, received a call-up to represent his home country's senior national team in the FIBA window in February and posted 23 points, 4 assists, 3 rebounds and 6 steals in a shellacking of New Zealand. While the competition left something to be desired, with both countries' rosters severely depleted, it was impressive to see the then-17-year-old get anywhere he wants on the floor and finish both skillfully and powerfully around the rim with explosiveness and touch. A big guard who is comfortable handling in pick and roll, Daniels' outside shot is a work in progress, but he displays impressive physical ability. Standing 6-foot-6 and having just turned 18, Daniels looks NBA caliber, combining his talent with the ball in his hands with strong defensive instincts. Daniels is reportedly a strong candidate to land with the Australian NBL's Next Star program, which makes sense considering his family lives outside of Melbourne.

• The son of Serbia and Montenegro national team member Dusan Vukcevic, Tristan Vukcevic cracked Real Madrid's rotation last month immediately after turning 18 years old and has delivered several memorable performances since. He played crunch-time minutes in a key win over Barcelona and helped to ice the game with an important 3-pointer and a blocked shot. Standing 6-foot-11, Vukcevic is an outstanding shooter who has converted half of his attempts from beyond the arc this season, showing impressive confidence for a player his age. His long arms and solidly built frame allow him to see minutes at center in the ACB. Still, there are question he'll have to answer defensively when projecting to the NBA. He'll have to show he can move his feet and cover ground a little better than what we've seen thus far. Regardless, a high school senior-aged player seeing rotation minutes for a team this level is notable and will make him worth monitoring closely next season.
 
Potential of Minnesota with Holmgren-Towns-Suggs-Ant... even as big of a frontcourt that’d be :lol:... both Towns and Holmgren could play inside out.
 
KAT for Wiseman, Wiggins and the 2022 pick back.

Who says no.

I get that you start over with Cade and Holmgren or Suggs and Holmgren, but I’d rather wait until pre-draft 2022 to think about doing it. And I want Holmgren (don’t know much about other ‘22s yet), but two 7-footers with Wiseman vs. Towns sounds less appealing.
 
I get that you start over with Cade and Holmgren or Suggs and Holmgren, but I’d rather wait until pre-draft 2022 to think about doing it. And I want Holmgren (don’t know much about other ‘22s yet), but two 7-footers with Wiseman vs. Towns sounds less appealing.
I should've stated this is hypothetically February 2022 and the T'Wolves are staring at another bottom five record. Would that matter? Granted you could do the same trade in June 2022.
 
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