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I see darkness.
I see smoke.
I see folks crawling in the ground.
What more do we need?
Watched episode 2 of who killed WCW
Damn I ain't know Goldberg was that bad and disliked. His backstory/in ring work sounds a lot like Warriors.
Kevin Nash said a Babyface makes more money chasing the title than having it. That can't be true. 98 Austin, 99-2000 Rock, Hogan all those years, Cena all those years. They became bigger than wrestling once they got the belt.
Nash - "it was a lot of mistakes but my check stayed the same"
HBK was so hot
He's right..Go back and look at most WWF/E champions, with the exception of Hogan, and look at how long those babyface championship runs lasted..SCSA is a 6x World Champ and only had 1 reign that lasted more than 3 months..The Rock is an 8x champ and only has 1 run longer than 100 days..Cena is a 16x champ and only has 3 runs that lasted longer than 100 days (granted 1 was over a year and 1 was almost 300 days)..The money for babyfaces is the build up and the revenge on the heel..It's not in the big run as champ..Watched episode 2 of who killed WCW
Damn I ain't know Goldberg was that bad and disliked. His backstory/in ring work sounds a lot like Warriors.
Kevin Nash said a Babyface makes more money chasing the title than having it. That can't be true. 98 Austin, 99-2000 Rock, Hogan all those years, Cena all those years. They became bigger than wrestling once they got the belt.
Nash - "it was a lot of mistakes but my check stayed the same"
Well said there Case Bigelow .He's right..Go back and look at most WWF/E champions, with the exception of Hogan, and look at how long those babyface championship runs lasted..SCSA is a 6x World Champ and only had 1 reign that lasted more than 3 months..The Rock is an 8x champ and only has 1 run longer than 100 days..Cena is a 16x champ and only has 3 runs that lasted longer than 100 days (granted 1 was over a year and 1 was almost 300 days)..The money for babyfaces is the build up and the revenge on the heel..It's not in the big run as champ..
He's right..Go back and look at most WWF/E champions, with the exception of Hogan, and look at how long those babyface championship runs lasted..SCSA is a 6x World Champ and only had 1 reign that lasted more than 3 months..The Rock is an 8x champ and only has 1 run longer than 100 days..Cena is a 16x champ and only has 3 runs that lasted longer than 100 days (granted 1 was over a year and 1 was almost 300 days)..The money for babyfaces is the build up and the revenge on the heel..It's not in the big run as champ..
I'm a lil confused..Are we talking about peaks or are we talking about money?..Cause Austin, Rock, Cena, HBK, and Bret spent more time chasing titles than they did holding them..And all of them will tell you they were selling the most merch/making the most money while they were chasing the belt/trying to get their revenge than just simply being champ..Like Nash said, you give the baby face the belt and then you take it away and start all over..I hear you but 98 Austin wasn't his peak? Rock won the belt like 5 times from 99-2000. Then in 2000 he had it for 119 days. That was when Rock became a household name. Cena's peak was definitely him having the belt. I was off and on during Cena's run but I never remember him chasing a heel except that one time with Edge and how long was that? HBK and Bret's runs wasn't their peak?
It depends on era's too.
Hulkkk is in town promoting his beer. I woulda meat him if I had known earlier.
YesIs he at Pastamania?