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Wow I never even heard of that lady asking McCain if Obama was an Arab
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5 Ridiculous Things You Probably Believe About Islam *WARNING*: Substantial Amount of Words
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Religious texts are open to interpretation, and a select few politicize and use it for evil.
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Religious texts are open to interpretation, and a select few politicize and use it for evil.
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I agree with this.
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I agree with this.
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Muslim's make some damn good food, that's all I really care about.
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Muslim's make some damn good food, that's all I really care about.
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Most of humanity never emerged from the Dark Ages. There are plenty of non - Muslims that live in savagery.
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Most of humanity never emerged from the Dark Ages. There are plenty of non - Muslims that live in savagery.
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you're right, a lot of humanity still lives in the dark ages.....some societies actually reverted from "civilization" to savagery.
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you're right, a lot of humanity still lives in the dark ages.....some societies actually reverted from "civilization" to savagery.
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Islamic Fundamentalism
The Tradition:
The boogeyman that replaced the specter of communism in the hearts of terrified Westerners, Islamic fundamentalism seems to come from another time. They rage against science, Western ideals and the basic rights of women. That's why you hear people on Fox News claiming that Muslim world is stuck in the Dark Ages.
"You can't use reason with these people. They only understand shadow puppets."
How Old It Actually Is:
Actually, the Middle East's clock stopped around the same time as the one at Marty McFly's high school in the 1950s. If the Arab world was really still stuck in the Middle Ages, everyone would be a lot better off.
Who Made It Up?
During the period the the Western world thinks of as the Dark Ages, when Europeans were busy murdering each other over matters of religion and superstition, Islam was cool as a cucumber. At the time, Islamic regions were actually more accepting of Judaism and Christianity than most of the Christian world was of Judaism and other types of Christianity. Long before the Italian Renaissance, the Islamic Empire realized the Greeks and Romans had been on to something with this book learning stuff, and used this realization to revolutionize astronomy, literature, physics, philosophy and architecture. Still bored, they went ahead and invented algebra and modern medicine too.
"George Washington invented numbers! We call them Arab numerals to mock them!"
The antiquated practices many Westerners associate with modern Islam are actually a relatively recent development. Reporting from Saudi Arabia for The New Yorker, Lawrence Wright interviewed an older Saudi man who reminisced about the good old days when men and women used to be able to celebrate weddings together. While it might seem weird to Westerners used to hearing stories of ankle length hemlines following the words "Back in my day... ," in the Middle East, when grandparents miss the good old days, they're often talking about a place that was far less up its own ++$.
"We had books. And the orgies! Don't get me started on the orgies ...
It wasn't until the 1950s that fundamentalist Islam started gaining influence, and outdated, dying traditions like the veil saw a spike in popularity. That's when followers of a fringe 18th century scholar Mohammed Al Wahab began to take Islam back to basics, which in this case meant an imaginary past where women were treated like @%+% and all the pesky "progress" of the last 1400 years never happened. During his lifetime, Wahab was taken about as seriously as Pat Robertson is taken today in the West. But in the 1950s, Wahabi Muslim thinkers like Sayyid Qutb started to urge total separation between Islam and the West, arguing that the outside world had "nothing else to give humanity."
Oh really, Qutb?
Qutb and his fundamentalist contemporaries inspired a new generation of radical thinkers, who took this "$+@* the West" mentality a few steps further, resulting in a Middle East that is far less progressive than the Dark Ages they're supposedly stuck in.
Some people shouldn't be encouraged to "shoot for the stars."
See, as tempting as it might be to divide history into the bad guys and the good guys, civilizations tend to evolve more like the Batman franchise, kicking ++$ part of the time, and reaching unspeakable, ++$ backwards lows that would embarrass their ancestors at others. Muslim people were doing algebra while we were burning women for having funny birthmarks on their face. They just happen to be going through their Batman and Robin phase.
http://www.cracked.com/article_1851...ditions-that-totally-arent.html#ixzz18grFna00
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Islamic Fundamentalism
The Tradition:
The boogeyman that replaced the specter of communism in the hearts of terrified Westerners, Islamic fundamentalism seems to come from another time. They rage against science, Western ideals and the basic rights of women. That's why you hear people on Fox News claiming that Muslim world is stuck in the Dark Ages.
"You can't use reason with these people. They only understand shadow puppets."
How Old It Actually Is:
Actually, the Middle East's clock stopped around the same time as the one at Marty McFly's high school in the 1950s. If the Arab world was really still stuck in the Middle Ages, everyone would be a lot better off.
Who Made It Up?
During the period the the Western world thinks of as the Dark Ages, when Europeans were busy murdering each other over matters of religion and superstition, Islam was cool as a cucumber. At the time, Islamic regions were actually more accepting of Judaism and Christianity than most of the Christian world was of Judaism and other types of Christianity. Long before the Italian Renaissance, the Islamic Empire realized the Greeks and Romans had been on to something with this book learning stuff, and used this realization to revolutionize astronomy, literature, physics, philosophy and architecture. Still bored, they went ahead and invented algebra and modern medicine too.
"George Washington invented numbers! We call them Arab numerals to mock them!"
The antiquated practices many Westerners associate with modern Islam are actually a relatively recent development. Reporting from Saudi Arabia for The New Yorker, Lawrence Wright interviewed an older Saudi man who reminisced about the good old days when men and women used to be able to celebrate weddings together. While it might seem weird to Westerners used to hearing stories of ankle length hemlines following the words "Back in my day... ," in the Middle East, when grandparents miss the good old days, they're often talking about a place that was far less up its own ++$.
"We had books. And the orgies! Don't get me started on the orgies ...
It wasn't until the 1950s that fundamentalist Islam started gaining influence, and outdated, dying traditions like the veil saw a spike in popularity. That's when followers of a fringe 18th century scholar Mohammed Al Wahab began to take Islam back to basics, which in this case meant an imaginary past where women were treated like @%+% and all the pesky "progress" of the last 1400 years never happened. During his lifetime, Wahab was taken about as seriously as Pat Robertson is taken today in the West. But in the 1950s, Wahabi Muslim thinkers like Sayyid Qutb started to urge total separation between Islam and the West, arguing that the outside world had "nothing else to give humanity."
Oh really, Qutb?
Qutb and his fundamentalist contemporaries inspired a new generation of radical thinkers, who took this "$+@* the West" mentality a few steps further, resulting in a Middle East that is far less progressive than the Dark Ages they're supposedly stuck in.
Some people shouldn't be encouraged to "shoot for the stars."
See, as tempting as it might be to divide history into the bad guys and the good guys, civilizations tend to evolve more like the Batman franchise, kicking ++$ part of the time, and reaching unspeakable, ++$ backwards lows that would embarrass their ancestors at others. Muslim people were doing algebra while we were burning women for having funny birthmarks on their face. They just happen to be going through their Batman and Robin phase.
http://www.cracked.com/article_1851...ditions-that-totally-arent.html#ixzz18grFna00
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wow 2 pages with no did not read gifs?
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wow 2 pages with no did not read gifs?
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The thing about #2 is that Islam was spread by the sword, under the directive of it's founder, Muhammad, for the purpose of collecting tribute.
It's all well and good that the armies did so "humanely", but it doesn't change their intent.
Not trying to discredit the entire post, as the other 4 myths are indeed ridiculous, but still should be noted.
It's all well and good that the armies did so "humanely", but it doesn't change their intent.
Not trying to discredit the entire post, as the other 4 myths are indeed ridiculous, but still should be noted.
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The thing about #2 is that Islam was spread by the sword, under the directive of it's founder, Muhammad, for the purpose of collecting tribute.
It's all well and good that the armies did so "humanely", but it doesn't change their intent.
Not trying to discredit the entire post, as the other 4 myths are indeed ridiculous, but still should be noted.
It's all well and good that the armies did so "humanely", but it doesn't change their intent.
Not trying to discredit the entire post, as the other 4 myths are indeed ridiculous, but still should be noted.
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Western-Conservative propaganda BS.
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Western-Conservative propaganda BS.
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As did every other empire in the history of the world. But the sole purpose was not to collect tribute, the main purpose was to spread the religion. Collecting tribute is a necessary part of maintaining an empire, as a mark of submission and allegiance, as well as to fund the central state. And the empire came to be under the Caliphates, not Muhammad.
And saying that Islam was spread by the sword is indeed true, but certainly not the only way it spread.
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As did every other empire in the history of the world. But the sole purpose was not to collect tribute, the main purpose was to spread the religion. Collecting tribute is a necessary part of maintaining an empire, as a mark of submission and allegiance, as well as to fund the central state. And the empire came to be under the Caliphates, not Muhammad.
And saying that Islam was spread by the sword is indeed true, but certainly not the only way it spread.
