A.I. Salty already

[sn souljah]

salam fam..solefob where u from akhi

 

[senatorjeffsmith]

Snack Randolph

 

[japanair21]

Originally Posted by SenatorJeffSmith

Snack Randolph

Clever.

Nothing will ever top Boseph though.

 

[xtapolapacetl]

"If we're winning, I can play 10 minutes and I'm happy," he said. "When we're losing, that's when I trip out."


Yeah..

That's why he signed with the Memphis Grizzlies, a team with such winning history.

 

[japanair21]

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

"If we're winning, I can play 10 minutes and I'm happy," he said. "When we're losing, that's when I trip out."

Yeah..

That's why he signed with the Memphis Grizzlies, a team with such winning history.
He's a damn joke.

 

[nicedudewithnicedreams]

Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Originally Posted by Xtapolapacetl

"If we're winning, I can play 10 minutes and I'm happy," he said. "When we're losing, that's when I trip out."

Yeah..

That's why he signed with the Memphis Grizzlies, a team with such winning history.

He's a damn joke.


Shouldn't that explain why AI should be starting and playing more minutes? The Grizzlies aren't that good of a team right? Or theyactually good so that AI isn't needed?

 

[eastcoastpapi]

wow yall hatin likkkkk

AI shouldnt be benched on any team.. son can easily give u 20+ a nite and make steals. on memphis he will get 30 a nite.

 

[im not you]

Originally Posted by EastCoastPapi

on memphis he will get 30 a nite.

Stick to the music forum...

 

[4wrestling]

 

[outacontrol music]

I appreciate this highlight though...

 

[al3xis]

Originally Posted by solefob

Originally Posted by NostrandAve68

A.I. = TO of the NBA

Dude should be grateful he even on a team.

thats an insult to T.O. cuz he actually works hard at his craft. Iverson just shows up for game time and expects everyone to bow down to his will.

and you personally know his work ethic how?

 

[Animal Thug]

Originally Posted by outacontrol music

I appreciate this highlight though...

...and dudes in this thread wanna make duke out to be a BUM

.

He's one of the best guards in history..

 

[grittyman20]

this dude said "bow down to his will"

 

[senatorjeffsmith]

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

Originally Posted by outacontrol music

I appreciate this highlight though...

...and dudes in this thread wanna make duke out to be a BUM

.

He's one of the best guards in history..

He'll be in the HOF but he's not among the top 5 guards ever. MJ, Big O, Magic, Jerry West--- all much better than Iverson.

 

[anygivensunday]

Originally Posted by SenatorJeffSmith

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

Originally Posted by outacontrol music

I appreciate this highlight though...

...and dudes in this thread wanna make duke out to be a BUM

.

He's one of the best guards in history..

He'll be in the HOF but he's not among the top 5 guards ever. MJ, Big O, Magic, Jerry West--- all much better than Iverson.

Don't forget about Kobe and D. Wade...

I miss the 98-01 A.I. sooo much

 

[sn souljah]

jerry west couldnt touch a.i..
neither can wade..

im just sayin

 

[nicedudewithnicedreams]

AI tonight: 27 minutes, 18 pts, 7 assists, 3 rebs, 4 tos... 8 of 12 shooting.

Grizzlies lose to Warriors.

Should dude start now?

 

[turbo mopar]

of course not.....people on here still think those are "bum" numbers and are "retirement" worthy.

Memphis management say they want a veteran player to lead them in those tough situations (like a tight 4th quarter) but they take him out once he keeps themclose. However, I do understand the coach's concern to ease Iverson in so as to protect his fresh (and new to him) hamstring injury. The dude really justwants to play and it must be terrible stress to see your team losing down the stretch when you've proven capable of helping more than the guy who'sstarting ahead of you.

I do agree with some of you in that Iverson needs to keep quiet for now and let his game do the talking. Afterall, there's only so long people can"try" to defend that the current pg is better than A.I.

 

[senatorjeffsmith]

Originally Posted by SN Souljah

jerry west couldnt touch a.i..
neither can wade..

im just sayin

Which player is more likely to help your team get a championship?

Mr. Salty or Mr. Clutch?

/thread.

 

[airuphere23]

Iverson has a history of complaining when things don't go his way. I respect Iverson but at the same time dude acts like he's still "thatguy". He's still a very good player but his best years were by far on the Sixers.

A.I. should just accept his role as a backup or just hang em' up because no team wants a problem child on the team that acts like they are above the teamconcept of winning. If he feels any different..start scoring alot points for the team and helping them mautre. But then again I'm not so sure if Iversondid mature...

Still have incredible respect for him though and what he was able to do over the vast majority of his career but he already knew that the market just was notthere for his services..

 

[i nasmatic i]

[h1]Frustration grows for Grizzlies, Iverson[/h1]
OAKLAND, Calif. - The Memphis Grizzlies started their game against the Golden State Warriors with Allen Iverson(notes) still on the bench. And after the Grizzlies lost again, Iverson's feelings about not starting also remained unchanged.

Iverson totaled 18 points, seven assists and four turnovers in a respectable 27-minute performance during the Grizzlies' 113-105 loss on Wednesday. But while his playing time increased by 10 minutes from his debut two nights earlier in Sacramento, Iverson still wasn't happy about two things:

He came off the bench.

And the Grizzlies lost.

No one, Iverson said, should be surprised by his frustration, even Grizzlies coach Lionel Hollins.

"The focus is on it because everybody in this whole world knows that I have a problem with it," Iverson said. "That's why it's an issue. It's easy to say I'm selfish. My response to that is it's something I've never done. And if we had success with us doing it than obviously I'd want to do it because we are winning basketball games. But if we had no success when we do it, than obviously I would have a bigger problem from the beginning.

"This media thing is so big. Coach played the game before. He's seen the things that I've done. He knows that I've never come off the bench ever in my whole career. So he knows that's something I'm not accustomed to or something I would want to do. He listens to talk radio and TV, what people say, family members, friends - everybody knows that it's not something I want to do."

Hollins was visibly frustrated while talking with reporters before the game. He initially said he didn't want to discuss Iverson's situation, but later answered some questions.

"My frustration is that I have to talk about Allen Iverson at every press setting," Hollins said. "I want to talk about the Memphis Grizzlies and us as a team. And even when Allen was out, I was happy to talk about Allen. So, that's my frustration. I just want to talk about the Memphis Grizzlies. If Allen plays well and you guys want to ask me about Allen, that's great. Or if he plays poorly and you want to ask me how poorly he played, that's great, too.

"But what he says and what he's thinking? My job is to coach the team as a unit. I have to make decisions and all the players in that locker room are not going to be happy about it. But it's my job to do the best that I can and if they don't feel like I'm doing it than ownership is going to get rid of me and that's the way it's always been through history."

Hollins didn't speak to Iverson directly after the veteran guard voiced his initial frustration following Monday's game. But another team official did tell Iverson he shouldn't have been so quick to complain given that he had missed all of the preseason, in addition to the Grizzlies' first three games, because of a hamstring injury.

"I know there are kids out there watching my every move, watching if I'm sitting over there pouting," said Iverson, who had started all but five of his 832 games prior to last season. "My son is watching the same thing. I don't want to be no guy that is causing the distraction to this squad. But everybody knows I'd be fake if I said, 'I'm so happy with everything that's going on.' It would be too fake. I wouldn't play that game."

Iverson isn't surprised his frustration has become a big story. His stay with the Detroit Pistons was cut short last season after he said he would rather retire than play a reserve role.

"If Allen Iverson says something that anybody doesn't agree with, yes, it's a big deal," Iverson said. "That's what [the media] loves, man. Like I said a million times, it ain't no good story if it's a positive story on Allen Iverson. You don't want to do nothing about me for no charity or nothing like that. You blow it up or something like that. It sells, don't it? Well, in this country it does.

"I talked to [reporters] for 30 minutes [in Sacramento], and the only thing that came out of it was about my butt being on the bench. Worldwide, it's the negative comments. If I talk to somebody for 30 minutes and I'm borderline negative on anything I talk about, they're going to write that story about that quote that I made. They're not going to write anything about anything else. I would think at this point in my career that stuff would get old. But it don't.

"As bad as people want me to be some selfish guy or selfish person, I signed here and came here to help these guys win basketball games. It's a young team. There is a lot of talent on the team, and I just feel like I can help, and I will continue to do that."

The Grizzlies signed Iverson to a one-year, $3 million contract after being the only NBA team to express serious interest in him. Even so, Iverson said he wouldn't have been comfortable coming to Memphis if he thought winning wasn't a priority. The Grizzlies, who are the league's youngest team, dropped to 1-4 with the Golden State loss.

"Do we want to develop kids or do we want to win basketball games?" Iverson said. "Obviously, the development will come with playing and practice and being in an NBA environment. But do we want to win basketball games? I think that's the most important thing. From everything that I've experienced from being in the NBA, guys want to win basketball games. Guys want to hold that trophy up at the end of the year. That's what we lace them up for.

"Now if they would have told me … even when I was 21 coming into the league, that, 'This is a rebuilding process Allen, we're not trying to win right now, we're going to try to develop you and the other young guys,' it wouldn't have sat well with me.

"From day one with any team I'm on, I want to win. I want to win basketball games. That's why I play the game. I hate losing more than I like winning."

Iverson has not said whether he should be starting over either Mike Conley(notes) or O.J. Mayo(notes). Hollins believes Conley is getting a bad rap in Memphis and deserves a chance to develop.

The week hasn't gone smoothly for the Grizzlies. Mayo called out forward Rudy Gay(notes) for his defense after a loss in Denver on Sunday. The following night, Iverson made his debut then complained about not starting after the Grizzlies lost in overtime to Sacramento. After Memphis yielded 113 points to the Warriors on Wednesday, Hollins barked, "It's defense, [expletive] defense that done us in, OK?"

Through it all, the Grizzlies continue to try to acclimate to Iverson, if not he to them.

"We're in a getting-to-know-you-type stage," Memphis general manager Chris Wallace said. "What we should have been able to do in the preseason we're doing in the regular season. We're trying to make up for lost ground right now."

.

 

[japanair21]

Allen Iverson needs to go back in a hole.

Wherever he was last season.

How do you open your mouth after the two games you played. The guy plays 28 minutes and he's still boohoo'ing.

Hollins, put his **+ in there for the entire game, 48 minutes, for a month and see if he starts complaining (when in reality, he'll boohoo after everysingle loss).

Allen Iverson, you get the biggest

since Spree's "gotta feed my family!!"

Go back in your hole, please.

 

[cigarilla]

@!!! MAN... shut up already AI. I'm still trying to be your fan over here. Just shut the @!!! up man, damn. God...

 

[lazyj10]

He was hitting Js no problem, but they all seemed to come outside the flow of the offense. Though I did notice he helped feed a hot Rudy Gay.

However, those TOs were ALL bad. Son dribbled out of bounds once? Had no clue about the shot clock once. Like mistakes that show you're mind isn't inthe game at all.

 

[sn souljah]

lol at him drawing a conclusion that him being on the bench is a bad influence for the kids looooooooooooooool talkin bout his son and what not lol dude is SOGANGSTA