On that some note though Vick has 600+ rushing yards and 8 rushing TD's but we don't think about that when we judging quarterbacks (if anything that should HELP his case IMO, that's what makes him so "valuable" in my eyes)
On that some note though Vick has 600+ rushing yards and 8 rushing TD's but we don't think about that when we judging quarterbacks (if anything that should HELP his case IMO, that's what makes him so "valuable" in my eyes)
Vick's production in this shorter period of time is incredible to think about.
Vick's production in this shorter period of time is incredible to think about.
This ... why is everyone so focused on the rushing yards and rushing td's? Last I checked the qb gets the ball to his wideouts, through the air. The hb's get the rushing td's/yd's.Originally Posted by BostonThreeParty
don't forget Brady's 17 rushing yards and 1 running TD.
but really, if Vick played this whole year, he'd get it.
whoever doesn't win the MVP will get atleast OPOY
This ... why is everyone so focused on the rushing yards and rushing td's? Last I checked the qb gets the ball to his wideouts, through the air. The hb's get the rushing td's/yd's.Originally Posted by BostonThreeParty
don't forget Brady's 17 rushing yards and 1 running TD.
but really, if Vick played this whole year, he'd get it.
whoever doesn't win the MVP will get atleast OPOY
nobody should argue that EITHER guy has a clear edge...Originally Posted by 5am6oody72
He has 806 more yards in 3 more games. Brady is throwing for 254.4 YPG and Vick is throwing for 250.5. So he's throwing for 3.9 YPG more than Vick is, big !%+%@+* dealHe's also taking 2 more attempts per game than Vick is so the argument about him having more passing yardage is a moot point. Vick averages 8.4 yards per attempt, a slight edge over Brady's 7.9. The ONLY thing you can give to Brady in these stats is his completion percentage (which is impressive) and fewer INT. Other than that it's dead even. Brady's streak without an INT is damn impressive but I saw two balls go straight through the defender's hands last night. I know that's part of the game and it doesn't really take away from the streak, but if Vick throws an interception that was a perfectly thrown ball to the receiver and it goes through his hands and gets picked (happened last week), it's still a better/more accurate pass than one that went straight to the Packer's DB; even if it doesn't go down as such in the stat book. Bottom line they are both taking care of the ball and not turning it over.
Also if you look at Vick's numbers, he's done all that in just barely 10 games. His "11th" game against us only lasted less than a quarter before he got injured. And the first game of the year he didn't come in until the 2nd quarter I believe. So his passing TD's per game are only marginally less than Brady's, while he's averaging 55 rushing YPG and nearly a rushing TD per game. Overall he's producing a tad more total offense and scoring than Brady is per game.
As far as their team's records go, Vick has only lost one game in which he started and finished (Bears). The first game of the year he came in in the 2nd quarter and they were already trailing by a lot (and I believe they outscored the Packers from that point on FWIW). He left in the first quarter against the Skins and they were on the verge of tying the game.
I could see either guy winning it, but nobody should act as if Brady has the clear edge at all, unless you want to argue that Vick only playing in 12 full games disqualifies him.
nobody should argue that EITHER guy has a clear edge...Originally Posted by 5am6oody72
He has 806 more yards in 3 more games. Brady is throwing for 254.4 YPG and Vick is throwing for 250.5. So he's throwing for 3.9 YPG more than Vick is, big !%+%@+* dealHe's also taking 2 more attempts per game than Vick is so the argument about him having more passing yardage is a moot point. Vick averages 8.4 yards per attempt, a slight edge over Brady's 7.9. The ONLY thing you can give to Brady in these stats is his completion percentage (which is impressive) and fewer INT. Other than that it's dead even. Brady's streak without an INT is damn impressive but I saw two balls go straight through the defender's hands last night. I know that's part of the game and it doesn't really take away from the streak, but if Vick throws an interception that was a perfectly thrown ball to the receiver and it goes through his hands and gets picked (happened last week), it's still a better/more accurate pass than one that went straight to the Packer's DB; even if it doesn't go down as such in the stat book. Bottom line they are both taking care of the ball and not turning it over.
Also if you look at Vick's numbers, he's done all that in just barely 10 games. His "11th" game against us only lasted less than a quarter before he got injured. And the first game of the year he didn't come in until the 2nd quarter I believe. So his passing TD's per game are only marginally less than Brady's, while he's averaging 55 rushing YPG and nearly a rushing TD per game. Overall he's producing a tad more total offense and scoring than Brady is per game.
As far as their team's records go, Vick has only lost one game in which he started and finished (Bears). The first game of the year he came in in the 2nd quarter and they were already trailing by a lot (and I believe they outscored the Packers from that point on FWIW). He left in the first quarter against the Skins and they were on the verge of tying the game.
I could see either guy winning it, but nobody should act as if Brady has the clear edge at all, unless you want to argue that Vick only playing in 12 full games disqualifies him.
