Air Jordan 11 Retro- Black/Red “Playoff”- 12/14/2019

[T_p_Hill]

yo does jb even use real patent leather on the 11s. the glaze and shine aint right

Yes this is finished/unfinished nubuck leather all the way through. Goes without saying but highly recommend people treat the leather on these.

 

[Deleted member 42060]

I take this to mean I should probably cancel my order. You guys agree? I'm not a stickler for getting my stuff ASAP, but this is a bad first impression. I won't be buying from Sivas again.

I wouldn't cancel. Give it 1 more week or something.

 

[KanyIZZY]

Yes this is finished/unfinished nubuck leather all the way through. Goes without saying but highly recommend people treat the leather on these.

Is it though? Feel like it hasn't been the real stuff since the early 2000 releases. That or its just buns quality and thin af .. because those wrinkle creases on newer XI's do not scream real PL lol.

 

[T_p_Hill]

Is it though? Feel like it hasn't been the real stuff since the early 2000 releases. That or its just buns quality and thin af .. because those wrinkle creases on newer XI's do not scream real PL lol.

Past the test of proper conditioner for specific material. Have a good deal of conditioners on hand and from what ive noticed any time utilizing say for instance a leather conditioner on synthetic material it never sets in. If it does it still appears and feels rather filmy since its not being absorbed and the same applies in reverse. As for the leather under the rubber patent if you fray the rough cut a bit youll notice suede like strands flaking out. If this was a synthetic you would notice more of a cotton textured flaking. Treating and maintaining the materials really helps any shoe pop more.

 

[rafbuddy]

Is it though? Feel like it hasn't been the real stuff since the early 2000 releases. That or its just buns quality and thin af .. because those wrinkle creases on newer XI's do not scream real PL lol.

Its definitely the cut and the sheen. the og 95s 96s have a glass like patent leather... its almost like its a bit duller and the shine scatters. The cut is so thin that when the PL creases it creases in straight edges. All little things jb cuts corners with, but still enjoying the 2018 concords. How hard is it to give us a quality cut of leather when Aldo can give you a full patent leather shoe for 90 bucks. It's only half the shoe lol

Past the test of proper conditioner for specific material. Have a good deal of conditioners on hand and from what ive noticed any time utilizing say for instance a leather conditioner on synthetic material it never sets in. If it does it still appears and feels rather filmy since its not being absorbed and the same applies in reverse. As for the leather under the rubber patent if you fray the rough cut a bit youll notice suede like strands flaking out. If this was a synthetic you would notice more of a cotton textured flaking. Treating and maintaining the materials really helps any shoe pop more.

Any conditioner that can make the patent leather more malleable or soften it?

 

[tonytobacco]

Yes this is finished/unfinished nubuck leather all the way through. Goes without saying but highly recommend people treat the leather on these.

Its definitely the cut and the sheen. the og 95s 96s have a glass like patent leather... its almost like its a bit duller and the shine scatters. The cut is so thin that when the PL creases it creases in straight edges. All little things jb cuts corners with, but still enjoying the 2018 concords. How hard is it to give us a quality cut of leather when Aldo can give you a full patent leather shoe for 90 bucks. It's only half the shoe lol



Any conditioner that can make the patent leather more malleable or soften it?

Youd have to get it from behind. Youre not penetrating that outer membrane. Try a heat gun and move around in them, maybe itll soften where theres pressure and hold its shape when they cool

 

[tonytobacco]

Are concords better built than breds?

 

[rafbuddy]

Are concords better built than breds?

didn't grab a pair of breds yet but the concords better than the space jams. patent leather is slightly thicker and the heel leather is nice and soft. plus the polyurethane insole

 

[WASHED KING]

Wearing one of my pair of Bred's today for the first time..and off rip they feel more comfortable than last year's Concords to me. Could be just in my head since I haven't worn the Concords in a while.

 

[KanyIZZY]

Are concords better built than breds?

rafbuddy mentioned some points for Cord>Jam which actually hold up against the Playoffs.. but with Cord VS Playoff its really super close. I think the biggest different would be comfort and heel collar leather is a tad better on Cords. Also the red is hard to get on these it seems. So that takes a point away from the Playoff too IMO. Padding on uppers is slightly better on Playoffs though some may disagree.

 

[KanyIZZY]

Past the test of proper conditioner for specific material. Have a good deal of conditioners on hand and from what ive noticed any time utilizing say for instance a leather conditioner on synthetic material it never sets in. If it does it still appears and feels rather filmy since its not being absorbed and the same applies in reverse. As for the leather under the rubber patent if you fray the rough cut a bit youll notice suede like strands flaking out. If this was a synthetic you would notice more of a cotton textured flaking. Treating and maintaining the materials really helps any shoe pop more.

Thanks.. real informative reply bro! This made more sense than just conviction lol.

 

[mrtarheel]

Siva update for the day....

 

[atdizzle]

Siva update for the day....

they need to change couriers. whatever courier they using right now, sucks.

 

[lamekilla]

How are wears holding up? Anybody wear their pair more than 5+ times yet? If so, pics

 

[purple sneaks]

How are wears holding up? Anybody wear their pair more than 5+ times yet? If so, pics

My patent leather and jumpman wore off already

 

[gundamzaku]

My SJ's have been looking mad foggy lately. Smacking them things with some Vaseline like my grandmother used to do my forehead when I get home.

my DS pair is looking foggy as well but the ones i actually rock is looking normal, almost brand new minus the creases which i don't mind

 

[gundamzaku]

How are wears holding up? Anybody wear their pair more than 5+ times yet? If so, pics

wore mine 4 days straight at work, around 8hrs per day. my pinky toe on my jumping foot (because it's a bit wider than my other foot) was in pain for a day, but after the second day, the toebox is breaking in nicely and the pain is gone.

 

[brian blades]

2nd wear. Personal GOAT

 

[Rm_bubwit]

2nd wear. Personal GOAT

san mig light!

 

[Rm_bubwit]

It’s not a big deal as I was able to remove it. I’m just surprised these made it to retail looking like that. If it was done in complete error like you mentioned then it’s more understandable. If they don’t inspect every pair then again, totally understandable. If they do or did and these still got through that’s not good considering these sell out fairly quickly and can’t be exchanged. If it was an item that could easily be exchanged or refunded and repurchased for retail no problem but having this happen on an item that sells out quickly and having no other option but to pay resell sucks.

how were u able to remove it? what did u clean it with?

 

[Flamboyant_Luv23]

this ebay pairs is sus

posted pics right next to muh nike pairs

 

[johnnyp2k12]

yep, 3rd pic the jumpman diff and leather is diff too

 

[johnnyp2k12]

wow, patent leather height, shape of the sole too, #23 different heights

 

[johnnyp2k12]

midsole diff too

 

[KanyIZZY]

wow, patent leather height, shape of the sole too, #23 different heights

PL height can differ on these. I was able to hand pick Cords and Playoffs to find variences between pairs. Some Cords even had a bump in the top of the PL toebox because the shoe trees werent pushed far enough.