Air Jordan XX8 aka 2013, new "Proplate Zoom" Technology OFFICIAL THREAD.

The thing is though, on the boots and higher quality shoes the leather makes it wayyy heavier, which in turn creates durability, but I don't think the weight of premium thick leather would do any good on the basketball court, too bulky. 


Thanks for bringing some sense into that debate.

Sorry, but the comparison between cowboy boots and basketball sneakers is not a good one. And if an athlete wore horse leather on kicks I could only imagine how many pounds he'd lose just by sweating out of his feet!

No doubt synthetic is cheaper, and I'm sure that's the #1 reason Nike uses it. But it's also lighter and more breathable, and often doesn't stretch as much. It's also more ethical and better for the environment. So there are benefits that go beyond dollars and cents.
 
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The thing is though, on the boots and higher quality shoes the leather makes it wayyy heavier, which in turn creates durability, but I don't think the weight of premium thick leather would do any good on the basketball court, too bulky. 

My man, I'm in my 30s - I was playing soccer, basketball, hide and seek, mowing the lawn, etc... in shoes featuring this 'premium thick' leather that you consider too bulky. Not a single injury of any kind nor was I fatigued in any way.

This BS about plastic shoes being lighter and easier to maneuver in nothing more than marketing - NBA cats were tearing up the league in 80s, 90s and mid-00s in leather shoes. If anything these plastic joints appear to be increasing injuries.
 
Thanks for bringing some sense into that debate.

Sorry, but the comparison between cowboy boots and basketball sneakers is not a good one. And if an athlete wore horse leather on kicks I could only imagine how pounds he'd lose just by sweating out of his feet!

No doubt synthetic is cheaper, and I'm sure that's the #1 reason Nike uses it. But it's also lighter and more breathable, and often doesn't stretch as much. It's also more ethical and better for the environment. So there are benefits that go beyond dollars and cents.

I'm sorry B but that's a major load of crap. What's ethical about manufacturing in country that undercuts the rest of the world by devaluing its currency and produces goods on the blood, sweat and tears of what is essentially slave labour? Additionally human consumption of livestock has not decreased in any way so what exactly is happening to animal skin? Furthermore plastics are constructed using petroleum and other chemicals that are hazardous to the environment.

I apologize if it comes across as an attack but Nike's 'Better World' is a joke.
 
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this is a really good review of the 28 and has good pictures after it was tested

http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2014/02/air-jordan-xx8-bamboo-pics
 
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My man, I'm in my 30s - I was playing soccer, basketball, hide and seek, mowing the lawn, etc... in shoes featuring this 'premium thick' leather that you consider too bulky. Not a single injury of any kind nor was I fatigued in any way.

This BS about plastic shoes being lighter and easier to maneuver in nothing more than marketing - NBA cats were tearing up the league in 80s, 90s and mid-00s in leather shoes. If anything these plastic joints appear to be increasing injuries.

School 'em.... What these young dudes don't realize is that "full grain leather" used to be a selling point.
 
I'm sorry B but that's a major load of crap. What's ethical about manufacturing in country that undercuts the rest of the world by devaluing its currency and produces goods on the blood, sweat and tears of what is essentially slave labour? Additionally human consumption of livestock has not decreased in any way so what exactly is happening to animal skin? Furthermore plastics are constructed using petroleum and other chemicals that are hazardous to the environment.

I apologize if it comes across as an attack but Nike's 'Better World' is a joke.


My man, I'm in my 30s - I was playing soccer, basketball, hide and seek, mowing the lawn, etc... in shoes featuring this 'premium thick' leather that you consider too bulky. Not a single injury of any kind nor was I fatigued in any way.

This BS about plastic shoes being lighter and easier to maneuver in nothing more than marketing - NBA cats were tearing up the league in 80s, 90s and mid-00s in leather shoes. If anything these plastic joints appear to be increasing injuries.



I’m not talking about Nike’s labour issues. Those concerns have always been legit and still are. And what cattle farmers do with their stock is another issue altogether. I thought we were talking about shoe materials here?

I’m on the other side of 30 as well, and frankly, I think you’ve glorified the quality of shoes during that era. I owned several Nike classics in the late 80’s and early 90’s, and none of them lasted me more than five or six months, and that’s being generous. It didn’t take long for them to stretch and stink either. And I was a pretty average teen; I wasn’t doing anything out of the ordinary.

Were original Nike hoops shoes better quality than the retros they make today? Absolutely! There’s no debate there. That’s why I don’t buy many retros.

But are we talking about cosmetics or performance here? I just have to laugh at all of the complaints about plastic. My Lebron IXs and Xs have been worn A LOT, and show very little signs of wear – superficially and structurally. The support is excellent, and they don’t really smell all that bad either! Yet so many leather-lovers would have us believe this is a bad thing, and that leather is a better option. To suggest basketball shoes be made with heavy duty materials is ridiculous. Lifestyle shoes? Sure…that makes sense. But there’s a reason cowboy boots are cowboy boots, and hiking boots are hiking boots!

It’s cool……. dudes love to come on here and ***** about materials – I get it. I realize I’m in the minority on this site. So I’ll be labeled a sheep or a Nike Stan, as anyone is who praises the company this site is named after.
 
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My man, I'm in my 30s - I was playing soccer, basketball, hide and seek, mowing the lawn, etc... in shoes featuring this 'premium thick' leather that you consider too bulky. Not a single injury of any kind nor was I fatigued in any way.

This BS about plastic shoes being lighter and easier to maneuver in nothing more than marketing - NBA cats were tearing up the league in 80s, 90s and mid-00s in leather shoes. If anything these plastic joints appear to be increasing injuries.
 
LOL. I just got on here to post about Will Ferrell. You guys beat me to it.
 
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What the hell......maybe not the best endorsement for the XX8....but why not!?

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Lol @ leather shoes being too bulky and heavy, you guys have got to be kidding

It's all mental, most shoes that are deemed too bulky are actually just fine, you won't be faster or have more stamina because your shoes are lighter, be real
 
My man, I'm in my 30s - I was playing soccer, basketball, hide and seek, mowing the lawn, etc... in shoes featuring this 'premium thick' leather that you consider too bulky. Not a single injury of any kind nor was I fatigued in any way.

This BS about plastic shoes being lighter and easier to maneuver in nothing more than marketing - NBA cats were tearing up the league in 80s, 90s and mid-00s in leather shoes. If anything these plastic joints appear to be increasing injuries.
Funny story, I went to a footlocker last year and tried on the lebron x. I really didn't like the cheap plastics so I asked the sales babe if they had anything with leather. She said no, nike no longer makes shoes with leather
 
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My XX8s. Bamboos and black/green are my favourites. Don't really care for the green ones. They would have been much nicer with a brighter shade of green
 
this is a really good review of the 28 and has good pictures after it was tested

http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2014/02/air-jordan-xx8-bamboo-pics

Actually, I think it was mediocre. He walked around in it. No comparison to the 2012s, Lebron XI or Kobe 9. He didn't play ball in them. Have someone shooting him taking shots, dunking, etc.

But he was blessed to get a pair for free and visit the Flight Club.

Anyways, I wasn't a fan of the camos at all. I think the stand outs were the Black/Green, Bamboos, White Perf and Why Not. Compared to other Sigs, there weren't as many color ways. And some of the releases were crowded together. Why in Sam Hill would you release three color ways of a $250 shoe in one day? Makes no sense.

Hopefully, they learn from these mistakes when they release the XX9.
 
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