AJ XXX (30)

After looking at them for a while I think I like them because I like the 29. Good colorways could do this shoe nicely. Like a Black/Stealth/Red-White.
 
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I agree with you about the lack of creativity used for the 30's, they literally had years to come up with a design and the copied off of the 29's. Not a good look or creative at all.

As far as shutting JB down that would be pointless. The Air Jordan was created to be the best basketball shoe technology wise each year Jordan played, the fact that many liked the design was a plus. Nike and Tinker were ahead of the curve and true sneaker design was new so everyone was wowed by their designs.

Fast forward thirty years later, we've probably seen it all. There's no wow factor to blow us away anymore. They can use different materials and color's but the truth is it probably won't be mind blowing.

I think many are stuck in the past when looking at the newest Jordan's. The new ones will never compare to the old ones because that time period is etched in our minds forever. People seem to forget that Jordan's 7-10 weren't the beloved models when they first came out, it was similar to now. You'd see them first, not like them but then they'd grow on you.

Listen to many of the people who played in or reviewed the 29's, many say it's one of the best basketball shoes ever. Apparently JB's doing something right.

Many are stuck in a nostalgic phase of Jordan's between 1-13, unfortunately you will never feel what you felt for the shoes for a newer shoe. That time has passed.

The 7s were highly regarded when they originally came out. Jordan played in 7s when he was on the dream team which added to the hype at the time. The 8s were also a strong design at the time and sought after, however departed from the lightweight nature of the shoes from the previous two designs. The 9s he didn't play in and were not highly regarded. The 10s Jordan didn't like the toe box and a change was made quickly but those sold well.

I'd agree many are stuck in the nostalgia the retro Jordans are often times the hottest selling issue of the year and each week. Since MJ doesn't play anymore there's no current moments of him in the shoes which leads to my next point.

I'd strongly disagree it's similar then to what it is now. Back when Jordan was playing this was the shoe to buy with no competition now he has competition with others in the same brand (Nike) and other brands as well. The single largest difference is now the athlete is not playing in the shoe, he's 50 years old now. The marketing campaigns can't compare to when he played, there is no "Money it's gotta be the shoes....no Mars", and "wanna be like Mike" (even though that was Gatorade it bled over to everything Jordan marketed)
 
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The 10s could have looked like doodoo and cats woulda still copped.

Those were his comeback shoe i remember EVERYBODY wanted those.
 
JB needs a overhaul. If I was Michael Jordan I would shut down this line for a complete calendar year to rebuild and reorganize the brand. When JB releases literal crap like this to the public they are insulting the logic and intelligence of consumers. This brand is out of ideas and creativity.

Dont make excuses for this shoe. They had 2 years to work on a 30th anniversary shoe. JB pulls in tens of million of dollars minimum every weekend selling shoes. Their R&D lab should be well funded to produce appealing signatures every year. Nobody is a visonary at JB right now. Just a bunch of yes men that want to have access to shoes early so they can show off or drop vague hints on social media.

I agree with you about the lack of creativity used for the 30's, they literally had years to come up with a design and the copied off of the 29's. Not a good look or creative at all.

As far as shutting JB down that would be pointless. The Air Jordan was created to be the best basketball shoe technology wise each year Jordan played, the fact that many liked the design was a plus. Nike and Tinker were ahead of the curve and true sneaker design was new so everyone was wowed by their designs.

Fast forward thirty years later, we've probably seen it all. There's no wow factor to blow us away anymore. They can use different materials and color's but the truth is it probably won't be mind blowing.

I think many are stuck in the past when looking at the newest Jordan's. The new ones will never compare to the old ones because that time period is etched in our minds forever. People seem to forget that Jordan's 7-10 weren't the beloved models when they first came out, it was similar to now. You'd see them first, not like them but then they'd grow on you.

Listen to many of the people who played in or reviewed the 29's, many say it's one of the best basketball shoes ever. Apparently JB's doing something right.

Many are stuck in a nostalgic phase of Jordan's between 1-13, unfortunately you will never feel what you felt for the shoes for a newer shoe. That time has passed.

Doing something right must mean inviting the people who have the popular shoe review blogs, websites,etc., to Jordan's house and giving them all free gear and VIP treatment. (I'd rather get a review from someone here who is not compensated) At that point who in their right mind is going to say something negative? If they do, the chances of being invited back for anything Jordan related period is done. You would probably have a better chance trying to put out a fire with gas and wood. But I can understand the reasoning of why they did it, after the zoom air bag debacle of the 28's, they needed positive feedback for the flightplate zoom air setup after the initial introduction was a bust.
 
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Let's see how they perform.

If they perform like the xvii's, I'll definitely get a black pair for basketball.

The low tops have a ton of potential too.
 
I would really like to see JB use past, classic color ways on this model to help give it that real air Jordan feel.

Imagine color blocking like the bred 11, white cement 4, true blue 3, Olympic 7 etc.
 
The marketing for this shoe better be incredible. With the man himself wearing em.
 
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Maybe they should make the XXX blend in with the colors? Or just move it to the bottom of the outsole or tongue and throw a jumpman on the back, seems subtle enough.
 
Mars and MJ would be fun. Now both old guys and still in black and white
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they really should bring that back before they're both vegetables in some nursing home
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. spike is still decent in those credit card commercials with barkley and Samuel I'm sure he could pull it off
 
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So for example : A non-sneakerhead consumer goes to buy a performance basketball shoe. I see 2 shoes and I pick them up. By the labeling on both it seems to me these are both the air Jordan 30. Obviously 1 sais 30 and the other sais XXX. Looks to me like 2 different color ways of the same shoe however 1 is half the price. The sales person comes over and tries to convince me that the 30, (I'm immediately confused because they both say 30 and look like the same shoe) is better cause it has 1 less lace hole and a different ankle collar. He also proceeds to tell me 1 is the 29 and 1 is the 30. I'd look at him like he is crazy and buy the 29 which I still think is the 30 based on look and labeling (until I see the box label) and save myself 100+ bucks for the same shoe,tech, and brand.

This breaks nearly every marketing rule I've been taught and I cannot believe Nike and Jordan Brand would do this. I officially think this is a plan and that this is not the 30. I would hope Jordan brand is smart enough to know these would not sell to the general public for the exact reason above and it's the same shoe.

That is unless 1 less lace hole, a different ankle collar, and an explanation on a YouTube video by some guy named Tinker Hatlfield explaining how this shoe is great ( which wouldn't do much because there is a video of him saying the same **** about the 29) is worth 100+ bucks to you.

Their only saving grace would be an incredible marketing campaign for the ages that makes the consumer want that specific shoe. But at that point it's based on appeal. My confidence in Jordan Brands trend of lack luster marketing in the past 9 years tells me These will fail. Hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully there is a great plan.

1 mans opinion I guess.

Put MJ in the marketing campaign and shoes. Its their only hope. If this is the actual XXX.
 
hahahaha these suck.. i was expecting the XXX to be nice, but they waste all that time to come out with something that looks like a target designer designed...
 
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So for example : A non-sneakerhead consumer goes to buy a performance basketball shoe. I see 2 shoes and I pick them up. By the labeling on both it seems to me these are both the air Jordan 30. Obviously 1 sais 30 and the other sais XXX. Looks to me like 2 different color ways of the same shoe however 1 is half the price. The sales person comes over and tries to convince me that the 30, (I'm immediately confused because they both say 30 and look like the same shoe) is better cause it has 1 less lace hole and a different ankle collar. He also proceeds to tell me 1 is the 29 and 1 is the 30. I'd look at him like he is crazy and buy the 29 which I still think is the 30 based on look and labeling (until I see the box label) and save myself 100+ bucks for the same shoe,tech, and brand.

This breaks nearly every marketing rule I've been taught and I cannot believe Nike and Jordan Brand would do this. I officially think this is a plan and that this is not the 30. I would hope Jordan brand is smart enough to know these would not sell to the general public for the exact reason above and it's the same shoe.

That is unless 1 less lace hole, a different ankle collar, and an explanation on a YouTube video by some guy named Tinker Hatlfield explaining how this shoe is great ( which wouldn't do much because there is a video of him saying the same **** about the 29) is worth 100+ bucks to you.

Their only saving grace would be an incredible marketing campaign for the ages that makes the consumer want that specific shoe. But at that point it's based on appeal. My confidence in Jordan Brands trend of lack luster marketing in the past 9 years tells me These will fail. Hopefully I'm wrong. Hopefully there is a great plan.

1 mans opinion I guess.

Put MJ in the marketing campaign and shoes. Its their only hope. If this is the actual XXX.

Or the sales guy says he wears them and smashes porn stars and you can do the same....you part with that extra $100 run around naked with the triple Xs and post on this board how much you're getting. Others follow suit and the sneaker reboots the hype train and Jordan's start selling out world wide within an hour again......
 
The shape of the xxx is much better than the 29.

more sleek

Could probably get away being worn casually more than the 29 imho
 
I think that's the issue a lot of people are having, they wanna be able to wear these casually and make em look good...those buying for perfomance, only a group can justify spending $200+ for a shoe they'll ruin...
 
Never thought about it like that.

Yea im going to wear them casually.
I dont hoop as much as i used to but i already have hoopin kicks.
I don't really wear bball kicks casually but these look like some futuristic type lifestyle shoes almost....sleek...lower....not too bulky...and add in that superior cushioning.

The 29 not so much.
 
I think that's the issue a lot of people are having, they wanna be able to wear these casually and make em look good...those buying for perfomance, only a group can justify spending $200+ for a shoe they'll ruin...



Thats true but that has been the issue since as far back as i can remember. Seems like that cant combine the 2 factors fashionable and performance anymore
 
12 was the absolute best in terms of fashion and performance.

ESPECIALLY taxi 12s

11,12,13,14 really pulled that off imo
 
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These will be easy to wear casually. The shoe works with today's styles... Ever pull a pair of Carolina XIs, IXs, or Laney 5s out to do date night with the wife? And wear grown man casual clothes at the same time? They are shoes and colors from a different time. St. Lunatics and matchy matchy is dead. Well at least in Cali.
 
Yea this particular cw works well.

I want to see the laces more.
It looked like you could see the ribs in that older pic but not in the recent pic
 
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