All-encompassing Cleveland Indians thread. 46 days until Opening Day.

[finallyfamous]

It's Canzler

 

[jpzx]

Ah okay. Caught Kevin's edit.

Drafted by the Cubs. That can't be good.

 

[jpzx]

Ah okay. Caught Kevin's edit.

Drafted by the Cubs. That can't be good.

 

[kevin cleveland]

So other people actually come in here?

Post more, fools. I run a damn good thread.

 

[kevin cleveland]

So other people actually come in here?

Post more, fools. I run a damn good thread.

 

[proshares]

 you want another projection?

Name	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	R	RBI	BB	SO	HBP	SB	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	wOBA	UZR	WAR
Shin-Soo Choo	140	544	160	30	4	19	89	96	69	124	10	22	0.294	0.382	0.469	0.851	0.373	3	4.8
Carlos Santana	146	533	140	34	2	26	88	107	96	115	3	5	0.263	0.374	0.48	0.854	0.37	-2	5.8
Jason Kipnis	140	551	151	28	9	18	77	95	50	121	9	16	0.274	0.342	0.456	0.798	0.352	-6	3.6
Travis Hafner	110	418	116	23	0	16	65	68	47	95	10	0	0.278	0.363	0.447	0.81	0.352	0	1.8
Asdrubal Cabrera	142	590	164	32	2	17	85	73	45	103	9	14	0.278	0.336	0.425	0.762	0.336	-8	3.1
Grady Sizemore	106	431	110	25	2	16	57	55	40	114	8	7	0.255	0.327	0.434	0.761	0.332	-4	1.9
Lonnie Chisenhall	132	491	130	26	3	15	65	71	36	100	9	4	0.265	0.323	0.422	0.744	0.326	2	2.7
Michael Brantley	135	531	145	27	5	7	62	68	41	80	3	21	0.273	0.326	0.382	0.708	0.317	-2	1.6
Matt LaPorta	105	391	98	22	1	13	46	51	31	84	3	3	0.251	0.308	0.412	0.72	0.314	-4	0.3
Jack Hannahan	105	357	88	17	1	8	47	44	41	85	3	4	0.247	0.327	0.367	0.694	0.311	8	2.3
Lou Marson	82	278	65	13	1	3	31	28	30	66	2	3	0.234	0.312	0.32	0.632	0.289	4	1.5

 

[proshares]

 you want another projection?

Name	G	AB	H	2B	3B	HR	R	RBI	BB	SO	HBP	SB	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS	wOBA	UZR	WAR
Shin-Soo Choo	140	544	160	30	4	19	89	96	69	124	10	22	0.294	0.382	0.469	0.851	0.373	3	4.8
Carlos Santana	146	533	140	34	2	26	88	107	96	115	3	5	0.263	0.374	0.48	0.854	0.37	-2	5.8
Jason Kipnis	140	551	151	28	9	18	77	95	50	121	9	16	0.274	0.342	0.456	0.798	0.352	-6	3.6
Travis Hafner	110	418	116	23	0	16	65	68	47	95	10	0	0.278	0.363	0.447	0.81	0.352	0	1.8
Asdrubal Cabrera	142	590	164	32	2	17	85	73	45	103	9	14	0.278	0.336	0.425	0.762	0.336	-8	3.1
Grady Sizemore	106	431	110	25	2	16	57	55	40	114	8	7	0.255	0.327	0.434	0.761	0.332	-4	1.9
Lonnie Chisenhall	132	491	130	26	3	15	65	71	36	100	9	4	0.265	0.323	0.422	0.744	0.326	2	2.7
Michael Brantley	135	531	145	27	5	7	62	68	41	80	3	21	0.273	0.326	0.382	0.708	0.317	-2	1.6
Matt LaPorta	105	391	98	22	1	13	46	51	31	84	3	3	0.251	0.308	0.412	0.72	0.314	-4	0.3
Jack Hannahan	105	357	88	17	1	8	47	44	41	85	3	4	0.247	0.327	0.367	0.694	0.311	8	2.3
Lou Marson	82	278	65	13	1	3	31	28	30	66	2	3	0.234	0.312	0.32	0.632	0.289	4	1.5

 

[kevin cleveland]

Much better. Completely plausible numbers, I think, but no way all of them stay healthy enough to reach them.

 

[kevin cleveland]

Much better. Completely plausible numbers, I think, but no way all of them stay healthy enough to reach them.

 

[finallyfamous]

Dude I check in here all the time.

 

[finallyfamous]

Dude I check in here all the time.

 

[kevin cleveland]

I know. I meant other team's fans.

 

[kevin cleveland]

I know. I meant other team's fans.

 

[proshares]

And those are the projections of paying Fangraphs members. Pretty impressive IMO.

BTW, pitchers:

Name	W	L	ERA	GS	G	SV	IP	H	ER	HR	SO	BB	WHIP	K/9	BB/9	FIP	WAR
Vinnie Pestano	3	2	2.81	0	65	1	65	49	20	6	84	25	1.14	11.63	3.46	2.96	1.3
Justin Masterson	12	10	3.68	33	33	0	208	203	85	15	167	67	1.3	7.23	2.9	3.5	4.1
Ubaldo Jimenez	13	10	3.78	33	33	0	206	183	86	18	195	83	1.29	8.52	3.63	3.67	3.6
Derek Lowe	10	12	4.46	33	33	0	187	198	93	16	127	62	1.39	6.11	2.98	3.94	2.6
Chris Perez	3	4	3.58	0	60	36	62	60	25	6	49	25	1.37	7.11	3.63	4.08	0.2
Kevin Slowey	9	9	4.5	25	25	0	140	157	70	23	101	20	1.26	6.49	1.29	4.26	1.5
Josh Tomlin	10	8	4.31	29	29	0	181	183	87	24	106	34	1.2	5.27	1.69	4.27	1.9

 

[proshares]

And those are the projections of paying Fangraphs members. Pretty impressive IMO.

BTW, pitchers:

Name	W	L	ERA	GS	G	SV	IP	H	ER	HR	SO	BB	WHIP	K/9	BB/9	FIP	WAR
Vinnie Pestano	3	2	2.81	0	65	1	65	49	20	6	84	25	1.14	11.63	3.46	2.96	1.3
Justin Masterson	12	10	3.68	33	33	0	208	203	85	15	167	67	1.3	7.23	2.9	3.5	4.1
Ubaldo Jimenez	13	10	3.78	33	33	0	206	183	86	18	195	83	1.29	8.52	3.63	3.67	3.6
Derek Lowe	10	12	4.46	33	33	0	187	198	93	16	127	62	1.39	6.11	2.98	3.94	2.6
Chris Perez	3	4	3.58	0	60	36	62	60	25	6	49	25	1.37	7.11	3.63	4.08	0.2
Kevin Slowey	9	9	4.5	25	25	0	140	157	70	23	101	20	1.26	6.49	1.29	4.26	1.5
Josh Tomlin	10	8	4.31	29	29	0	181	183	87	24	106	34	1.2	5.27	1.69	4.27	1.9

 

[Animal Thug]

Hopefully everything can stay healthy; and I'd say we compete for having the best rotation in the American League.

And I don't give a damn what any media says, we need "Fausto" back...

 

[Animal Thug]

Hopefully everything can stay healthy; and I'd say we compete for having the best rotation in the American League.

And I don't give a damn what any media says, we need "Fausto" back...

 

[proshares]

If Ubaldo Jimenez has a big bounce-back kind of season, remember this name: Nelson Perez. He's one of the Indians' strength coaches. And while you may have heard that he's been working with Jimenez in the Dominican this winter, what you probably haven't heard is the behind-the-scenes story of how that came about.

The Indians aren't one of those teams that sits back and hopes its players stay in shape over the winter. They try to be as proactive as possible. But Perez took proactivity to a whole new level, by actually volunteering to move his family from Puerto Rico to the Dominican Republic to work with Jimenez and several other players. Now, all reports are that Jimenez is in fabulous shape after an offseason of working on his core and lower half.

His season disintegrated last year, when he showed up for spring training with a hip injury then lost his delivery and never got it back. The Indians were determined not to repeat that saga this year. But Perez went above and beyond most folks' definition of the call of duty to make that happen.

 

[proshares]

If Ubaldo Jimenez has a big bounce-back kind of season, remember this name: Nelson Perez. He's one of the Indians' strength coaches. And while you may have heard that he's been working with Jimenez in the Dominican this winter, what you probably haven't heard is the behind-the-scenes story of how that came about.

The Indians aren't one of those teams that sits back and hopes its players stay in shape over the winter. They try to be as proactive as possible. But Perez took proactivity to a whole new level, by actually volunteering to move his family from Puerto Rico to the Dominican Republic to work with Jimenez and several other players. Now, all reports are that Jimenez is in fabulous shape after an offseason of working on his core and lower half.

His season disintegrated last year, when he showed up for spring training with a hip injury then lost his delivery and never got it back. The Indians were determined not to repeat that saga this year. But Perez went above and beyond most folks' definition of the call of duty to make that happen.

 

[kevin cleveland]

I have little hope for Fausto. At 31, his career is on the downswing. He's only ever had one really good season (five years ago), compared to four slightly above-average to bad ones. Plus, as mentally-unstable as he is on the mound, he may never even recover to the mediocre version of himself after this.

For 2012, I see Slowey being a notch above Fausto, and Fausto being a smaller notch above Huff, McAllister and Gomez (in that order).

 

[kevin cleveland]

I have little hope for Fausto. At 31, his career is on the downswing. He's only ever had one really good season (five years ago), compared to four slightly above-average to bad ones. Plus, as mentally-unstable as he is on the mound, he may never even recover to the mediocre version of himself after this.

For 2012, I see Slowey being a notch above Fausto, and Fausto being a smaller notch above Huff, McAllister and Gomez (in that order).

 

[kevin cleveland]

Avoided arbitration with R. Perez. $2,005,000.

Just Cabrera left.

 

[kevin cleveland]

Avoided arbitration with R. Perez. $2,005,000.

Just Cabrera left.

 

[kevin cleveland]

Casey Kotchman has signed.

 

[kevin cleveland]

Casey Kotchman has signed.