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[futuremd]

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Its a damn shame but this is why I laugh at people who think specs matter when defending androids or other apple competitors

THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESNT CARE. 

You all that mod the hell out of your devices to what end? To brag about how much better android is? 

I mean get real. Most people don't even understand how to do more than change their wallpaper and ya'll are in here defending who did what first...

 

[drew]

This is the reason people don't like "apple sheep"

Video had me dying. I would've thought the dude with the snapback and the dude with the yellow shirt would have known better.



-Drew

 

[gllahone84]

Its a damn shame but this is why I laugh at people who think specs matter when defending androids or other apple competitors

THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESNT CARE. 

You all that mod the hell out of your devices to what end? To brag about how much better android is? 

I mean get real. Most people don't even understand how to do more than change their wallpaper and ya'll are in here defending who did what first...

 

[jrdnsrnss]

Video was , apple sheep

 

[scuse7]

Who are you with? If Verizon then No. Its part of Apples contract that the carrier cant do any extra discounting that isnt part of a nationwide promo. If you call your customer service they will offer you probably every Android product, but not the iPhone.

I'm with AT&T who I've heard will do this if you do a decent amount of business with them. I'm going to try it later.

 

[neverflopped]

How much $$ will the pre order be? Can pre orders "sell out" never pre ordered a phone
How does it work you just put down some $ then when the release date comes you pay the rest and it ships

bump on this

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I don't even get what people are arguing about, it's just preference no platform is inherently better than the other, if you are a hardcore gmail power user or you desire customization then use android, if you want an idiot proof experience incredibly consistent experience then get ios. This endless fanboying is annoying.

Nobody knows if that's true though.

look at the radio it doesn't support aws spectrum, so unless tmobile changes there network or upgrades to lte from what i understand no it won't work. I wish it would so i could use it.

 

[ayodude]

Excuse my ignorance but the Iphone 5 don't seem much better than the 4s.

 

[PRIME]

Excuse my ignorance but the Iphone 5 don't seem much better than the 4s.

So don't buy it

 

[whyhellothere]

for anyone who wants a good (and overly long) recap of the event.



never thought i'd see members of the verge underwhelmed by an apple release.

 

[maddog345]

at the Jimmy Kimmel video

 

[ayodude]

So don't buy it

Dang don't get so butt hurt dawggy, I was hoping someone like yourself would be able to explain the major differences but instead I guess you are more interested in laying down the hate

 

[omgitswes]

what's so funny is the fact that they own the 4s and still couldn't tell it was the same phone.
Prime example why Apple isn't going anywhere anytime soon. No matter what they put out.

 

[solidsnake]

I've always had a black iPhone, and I thought I'd get the 5 in white, but the black this year is

 

[PRIME]

Dang don't get so butt hurt dawggy, I was hoping someone like yourself would be able to explain the major differences but instead I guess you are more interested in laying down the hate

How am I butthurt or hating because I said don't buy the phone?

You obviously said you don't see any differences between the two. Am I supposed to convince you to buy it against your will?

 

[mp3911]

Its a damn shame but this is why I laugh at people who think specs matter when defending androids or other apple competitors

THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESNT CARE. 

You all that mod the hell out of your devices to what end? To brag about how much better android is? 

I mean get real. Most people don't even understand how to do more than change their wallpaper and ya'll are in here defending who did what first...

Serious question: Have you ever used stock Android 4.1? The latest version? Unmodified? Unskinned?

 

[reener]

if you can believe it, the phone service providers have more influence over the tech than you'd think.

In many cases, they're the main points of contention in the phone development process.


In many articles i've read about the industry, its often the phone manufacturers themselves that would love to push the boundaries but are limited by the phone service providers who are too stubborn to let the real innovation reach customers. 

Makes sense. I can see Verizon or ATT keeping us from having these types of things because of Data usage. Damn bastards probably hate the idea of "unlimited data" now that they look back on it.

Remember ATT's CEO loses sleep just by the thought of iMessage.

 

[iamyourfather]

Its a damn shame but this is why I laugh at people who think specs matter when defending androids or other apple competitors

THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESNT CARE. 

You all that mod the hell out of your devices to what end? To brag about how much better android is? 

I mean get real. Most people don't even understand how to do more than change their wallpaper and ya'll are in here defending who did what first...

specs matter to tech savvy people, and arguing that "specs dont matter to average people" in a thread like this one serves what purpose exactly.. i dont think the majority of people here are clueless 12 year old girls who just want the newest phone out to post pics of their jamba juice on instagram. 

people in here care about specs. 

 

[futuremd]

Its a damn shame but this is why I laugh at people who think specs matter when defending androids or other apple competitors

THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESNT CARE. 

You all that mod the hell out of your devices to what end? To brag about how much better android is? 

I mean get real. Most people don't even understand how to do more than change their wallpaper and ya'll are in here defending who did what first...

specs matter to tech savvy people, and arguing that "specs dont matter to average people" in a thread like this one serves what purpose exactly.. i dont think the majority of people here are clueless 12 year old girls who just want the newest phone out to post pics of their jamba juice on instagram. 

people in here care about specs. 

We're talking about the people in that video.

Specs don't matter to most people because tech-savvy people don't make up enough of their product's bottom line.

Specs are for people to argue over who really don't have a dog in the fight. 

Its a damn shame but this is why I laugh at people who think specs matter when defending androids or other apple competitors

THE AVERAGE PERSON DOESNT CARE. 

You all that mod the hell out of your devices to what end? To brag about how much better android is? 

I mean get real. Most people don't even understand how to do more than change their wallpaper and ya'll are in here defending who did what first...

Serious question: Have you ever used stock Android 4.1? The latest version? Unmodified? Unskinned?

I don't know if I have. Would it be the newest Nexus that recently came out?

If not, then no. 

In any case, I don't have anything against android per se. I just don't like it. Design and performance wise, I just don't like its out-of-box appeal and I dont have the effort to keep chasing mod's to improve that. 

 

[omgitswes]

Learned this in one of my Principals classes.

Design with a consumer mindset not an engineering one, that's why companies like Pioneer aren't doing to great.
There will always be that niche market of consumers who care about specs and what not but the main consumers do not care at all. As long as it works and shiny they want it, no company is touching Apple when it comes to marketing. They can sell anything since like 2008 or whenever the first iphone came out, probably even before that.

 

[go rilla]

Excuse my ignorance but the Iphone 5 don't seem much better than the 4s.

that's because it's not

 

[iamyourfather]

and mods arent meant to 'improve' things necessarily, i just dont understand how people try and dismiss customizability as if having the freedom to do whatever you want to your phone is a bad thing. 

i get tired of eating the same thing 2 days in a row, so i dont get how staring at the same 3 rows of app tiles doesn't get boring for 5 straight years

 

[iamyourfather]

Learned this in one of my Principals classes.
Design with a consumer mindset not an engineering one, that's why companies like Pioneer aren't doing to great.
There will always be that niche market of consumers who care about specs and what not but the main consumers do not care at all. As long as it works and shiny they want it, no company is touching Apple when it comes to marketing. They can sell anything since like 2008 or whenever the first iphone came out, probably even before that.

yup this is true.

apple doesnt just sell the phone, they sell an image, they can repackage the same damn phone and add something as ******ed as siri and people will cream their panties over it, despite the fact that steve jobs hated Siri (and screens larger than 3.5" which he thought was the perfect screen size) and associate their phone with luxury and quality and a bunch of other crap. that'ts why u had all these cornballs getting mad when instagram got on android saying instagram was going to be "ghetto" as if owning an iphone makes u a 1%'er or something

 

[PRIME]

specs matter to tech savvy people, and arguing that "specs dont matter to average people" in a thread like this one serves what purpose exactly.. i dont think the majority of people here are clueless 12 year old girls who just want the newest phone out to post pics of their jamba juice on instagram. 

people in here care about specs. 

Yeah, but where you guys get things twisted is you put all of your faith and pride in specs and forget that specs are indeed not everything.

User experience goes so much further than specs do.

Theres more to being tech savvy than just knowing specs. And thats another thing some people don't get.
Just like there's more to being a car enthusiast than just knowing engines.

Any person with a laptop and the internet can know "specs" just like an kid with an Import Tuner subscription could know engines.

You can't sell specs. The average consumer isn't going to rush into thing blindly and pay $200-$300 on some **** they don't understand.
Its the "tech savvy" (or truly lack there of) dudes who will. They'll spend the money first then learn later. Then a new handset will drop and they do it all over again.

Because lets be honest, who the hell really uses all of the **** they hype up about a phone after they actually buy it?
Like of all the dudes who brag about specs, who really takes full advantage?

**** reminds me of the guys who build monster desktop gaming rigs just to play World of Warcraft...

Which cats who brag about theming actually know how to make themes? Or do you just brag about it because you can?
Who takes full advantage of 1gb of ram on a phone? Like, who runs any app that requires it outside of the OS?

I'll tell you who... The 20% of people who buy them...
That same small percentage of people who can be matched by the iPhones 20% of jailbreakers.

The same guys on one end bragging about specs (android) are matched by the same sized group on the other end (apple) who brag about user experience.


And if specs matter SO MUCH let me as you guys this, why is it that even after two years the iPhone 4 is still on sale and is still considered one of the best phones to have by regular consumer standards?

Why don't all of these "specs" keep Android phones relevant after a year?

Because User Experience matters.
You don't have to throw a bunch of **** in a phone for it to be a good phone.

But for some reason so many people think you need to.

 

[futuremd]

and mods arent meant to 'improve' things necessarily, i just dont understand how people try and dismiss customizability as if having the freedom to do whatever you want to your phone is a bad thing. 

i get tired of eating the same thing 2 days in a row, so i dont get how staring at the same 3 rows of app tiles doesn't get boring for 5 straight years

I don't see "customization" as a bad thing, but I don't see it as a strong point either.

It doesn't work for everyone.

Plus, like I said. I don't know ANYONE that really takes the time to utilize this customization you speak of.

I'm aware of how to root android phones and all that...but you've got to remember the average consumer.

The average consumer isn't browsing forums and learning how to root software and customize basic settings.

Its not a reflection on their intelligence either. 

Its just about usability sometimes more than customization. 

Android offers that if you like to experiment. Not everyone can be bothered with that.