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Im not asian. I am an immigrant though, and will say many asian, african, latino immigrants don't spend the same way Americans do. I can't really comment on Asians only tipping other Asians, but I will say that maybe the have a soft spot for their own people. Don't really know what else to say about that.Originally Posted by CampbellSoup
Originally Posted by Forgot About Jae
Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe
...I wish some of you dudes came to "my" restaurant when I was working
It was a pretty high end sushi restaurant and only the white and asian people tipped well![]()
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Can I ask, are you Asian? Cause in my line of work and from what I have heard from my buddy who is married to a Korean woman, he says they only tip well within their race.
Asians rarely use my valet service, and when they do they don't tip for #+%#. Ive literally seen an Asian lady pull out a $5,000 Gucci bag, and have a wad full of $100 bills, and proceed to tip me $2.![]()
Im not asian. I am an immigrant though, and will say many asian, african, latino immigrants don't spend the same way Americans do. I can't really comment on Asians only tipping other Asians, but I will say that maybe the have a soft spot for their own people. Don't really know what else to say about that.Originally Posted by CampbellSoup
Originally Posted by Forgot About Jae
Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe
...I wish some of you dudes came to "my" restaurant when I was working
It was a pretty high end sushi restaurant and only the white and asian people tipped well![]()
>implying![]()
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Can I ask, are you Asian? Cause in my line of work and from what I have heard from my buddy who is married to a Korean woman, he says they only tip well within their race.
Asians rarely use my valet service, and when they do they don't tip for #+%#. Ive literally seen an Asian lady pull out a $5,000 Gucci bag, and have a wad full of $100 bills, and proceed to tip me $2.![]()
Originally Posted by I AM THAT DUDE
Woopty damn do. Go eat at a family Oriental spot and they got their 10 y/o daughters doing this +%%% My neice is 3 and I can ask her to go get me a Coke and she can tell the difference between it and the other sodas. As far as what drinks go with what dishes, is it some formula that requires great experience, age, and skill to know? Nope, wrote memorization and that's ignoring the fact it is subjective anyways. If you can't remember, write it down. I still fail to recognize that as a skill that is just deserving of a greater tip and recognition than anything else. As for them making 2 bucks an hr. they voluntarily signed up for it, so my heart does not bleed. If they were born into some sort of waitor slavery, where they wanted to get a regular minimum wage job,but oppression forbade it, I'd make it rain.Originally Posted by CampbellSoup
Look, the way I see it is like this. The waiters work off an hourly wage of $2.13 or whatever it is.
I completely understand the idea that, "Okay all this guy or girl is doing is refilling my glass, writing down my order, and coming to check on me and whomever every 10 mins." ----- So why tip when they basically are doing "nothing?" I get that mindset, but you have to really look at it as to how they make their money. If you made $2/hr and their wage is based on a society that is supposed to tip, just at least give them 10 %. I make my living off of tips. Given I park cars as my part time job in school, it still is my only source of income and I do my best to make sure I provide the best service.
But also, for those who have been to high end restaurants and seen how much knowledge those servers have to attain and know to work their, I dont see why you cant tip well especially if you can afford to eat at a place like that. They know the menu by heart, what wines to recommend, etc.
But you signed up to make $2 an hr because 1 you know it's an unsophisticated, low skill profession and not "worthy" of much more anyways, but it's a "risk" you take that some people don't fall for the whole gratuity/service industry scam but knowing most will and on a Friday night you can easily brag about making 200 bucks in 4 hrs just filling drinks. End of the day, they generally come out ahead.
If I owned a restaurant, I'd definitely be a 2 bucks + tips type of owner too. It cuts my operating costs tremendously, about 75% per employee versus paying them like minimum wage. I've seen places that switched from one to the other (from paying full wage to deferring that onto the customers) and didn't even alter prices.
Originally Posted by I AM THAT DUDE
Woopty damn do. Go eat at a family Oriental spot and they got their 10 y/o daughters doing this +%%% My neice is 3 and I can ask her to go get me a Coke and she can tell the difference between it and the other sodas. As far as what drinks go with what dishes, is it some formula that requires great experience, age, and skill to know? Nope, wrote memorization and that's ignoring the fact it is subjective anyways. If you can't remember, write it down. I still fail to recognize that as a skill that is just deserving of a greater tip and recognition than anything else. As for them making 2 bucks an hr. they voluntarily signed up for it, so my heart does not bleed. If they were born into some sort of waitor slavery, where they wanted to get a regular minimum wage job,but oppression forbade it, I'd make it rain.Originally Posted by CampbellSoup
Look, the way I see it is like this. The waiters work off an hourly wage of $2.13 or whatever it is.
I completely understand the idea that, "Okay all this guy or girl is doing is refilling my glass, writing down my order, and coming to check on me and whomever every 10 mins." ----- So why tip when they basically are doing "nothing?" I get that mindset, but you have to really look at it as to how they make their money. If you made $2/hr and their wage is based on a society that is supposed to tip, just at least give them 10 %. I make my living off of tips. Given I park cars as my part time job in school, it still is my only source of income and I do my best to make sure I provide the best service.
But also, for those who have been to high end restaurants and seen how much knowledge those servers have to attain and know to work their, I dont see why you cant tip well especially if you can afford to eat at a place like that. They know the menu by heart, what wines to recommend, etc.
But you signed up to make $2 an hr because 1 you know it's an unsophisticated, low skill profession and not "worthy" of much more anyways, but it's a "risk" you take that some people don't fall for the whole gratuity/service industry scam but knowing most will and on a Friday night you can easily brag about making 200 bucks in 4 hrs just filling drinks. End of the day, they generally come out ahead.
If I owned a restaurant, I'd definitely be a 2 bucks + tips type of owner too. It cuts my operating costs tremendously, about 75% per employee versus paying them like minimum wage. I've seen places that switched from one to the other (from paying full wage to deferring that onto the customers) and didn't even alter prices.
Originally Posted by Forgot About Jae
Im not asian. I am an immigrant though, and will say many asian, african, latino immigrants don't spend the same way Americans do. I can't really comment on Asians only tipping other Asians, but I will say that maybe the have a soft spot for their own people. Don't really know what else to say about that.Originally Posted by CampbellSoup
Originally Posted by Forgot About Jae
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Can I ask, are you Asian? Cause in my line of work and from what I have heard from my buddy who is married to a Korean woman, he says they only tip well within their race.
Asians rarely use my valet service, and when they do they don't tip for #+%#. Ive literally seen an Asian lady pull out a $5,000 Gucci bag, and have a wad full of $100 bills, and proceed to tip me $2.![]()
I will say I'm cheap, I don't use valet at all because I have no problem or time constraint in parking my own car, nor do I enjoy paying for parking at shopping centers that have restaurants or bars at night, but that's me. I think some Americans are more used to spending on certain things. I've lived here for a good portion of my life and still don't participate in some trends that my friends are into.
I'm laughing at that dude for acting like it was his restaurant when he's just a waiter and can't demand a tip like he's doing.
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Originally Posted by Forgot About Jae
Im not asian. I am an immigrant though, and will say many asian, african, latino immigrants don't spend the same way Americans do. I can't really comment on Asians only tipping other Asians, but I will say that maybe the have a soft spot for their own people. Don't really know what else to say about that.Originally Posted by CampbellSoup
Originally Posted by Forgot About Jae
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Can I ask, are you Asian? Cause in my line of work and from what I have heard from my buddy who is married to a Korean woman, he says they only tip well within their race.
Asians rarely use my valet service, and when they do they don't tip for #+%#. Ive literally seen an Asian lady pull out a $5,000 Gucci bag, and have a wad full of $100 bills, and proceed to tip me $2.![]()
I will say I'm cheap, I don't use valet at all because I have no problem or time constraint in parking my own car, nor do I enjoy paying for parking at shopping centers that have restaurants or bars at night, but that's me. I think some Americans are more used to spending on certain things. I've lived here for a good portion of my life and still don't participate in some trends that my friends are into.
I'm laughing at that dude for acting like it was his restaurant when he's just a waiter and can't demand a tip like he's doing.
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99% of NT'ers need to save all the money they can to finance their e92sOriginally Posted by CampbellSoup
My man, have you ever been to a really high end restaurant? By high end I mean like at least $35-40 a head without drinks...... I'm sure you have......
I valet for a steakhouse that falls in this category, and they literally have a wine cellar with about 300-400 different kinds of wine, on top of a menu that is constantly changing. Keep it in mind that these waiters are dealing with upper class people who expect nothing less than superior service and for their waiter to know the menu, ehat goes with what, and all of that.
The waiters here make $50,000 - 60,000 a year there.
There is more that goes into than you think. Not all these waiters are low life people without an education.
Are you telling me that if you were to go eat at one of these places, all you would tip would be 10% regardless?
99% of NT'ers need to save all the money they can to finance their e92sOriginally Posted by CampbellSoup
My man, have you ever been to a really high end restaurant? By high end I mean like at least $35-40 a head without drinks...... I'm sure you have......
I valet for a steakhouse that falls in this category, and they literally have a wine cellar with about 300-400 different kinds of wine, on top of a menu that is constantly changing. Keep it in mind that these waiters are dealing with upper class people who expect nothing less than superior service and for their waiter to know the menu, ehat goes with what, and all of that.
The waiters here make $50,000 - 60,000 a year there.
There is more that goes into than you think. Not all these waiters are low life people without an education.
Are you telling me that if you were to go eat at one of these places, all you would tip would be 10% regardless?
Originally Posted by CampbellSoup
Originally Posted by I AM THAT DUDE
Woopty damn do. Go eat at a family Oriental spot and they got their 10 y/o daughters doing this +%%% My neice is 3 and I can ask her to go get me a Coke and she can tell the difference between it and the other sodas. As far as what drinks go with what dishes, is it some formula that requires great experience, age, and skill to know? Nope, wrote memorization and that's ignoring the fact it is subjective anyways. If you can't remember, write it down. I still fail to recognize that as a skill that is just deserving of a greater tip and recognition than anything else. As for them making 2 bucks an hr. they voluntarily signed up for it, so my heart does not bleed. If they were born into some sort of waitor slavery, where they wanted to get a regular minimum wage job,but oppression forbade it, I'd make it rain.Originally Posted by CampbellSoup
Look, the way I see it is like this. The waiters work off an hourly wage of $2.13 or whatever it is.
I completely understand the idea that, "Okay all this guy or girl is doing is refilling my glass, writing down my order, and coming to check on me and whomever every 10 mins." ----- So why tip when they basically are doing "nothing?" I get that mindset, but you have to really look at it as to how they make their money. If you made $2/hr and their wage is based on a society that is supposed to tip, just at least give them 10 %. I make my living off of tips. Given I park cars as my part time job in school, it still is my only source of income and I do my best to make sure I provide the best service.
But also, for those who have been to high end restaurants and seen how much knowledge those servers have to attain and know to work their, I dont see why you cant tip well especially if you can afford to eat at a place like that. They know the menu by heart, what wines to recommend, etc.
But you signed up to make $2 an hr because 1 you know it's an unsophisticated, low skill profession and not "worthy" of much more anyways, but it's a "risk" you take that some people don't fall for the whole gratuity/service industry scam but knowing most will and on a Friday night you can easily brag about making 200 bucks in 4 hrs just filling drinks. End of the day, they generally come out ahead.
If I owned a restaurant, I'd definitely be a 2 bucks + tips type of owner too. It cuts my operating costs tremendously, about 75% per employee versus paying them like minimum wage. I've seen places that switched from one to the other (from paying full wage to deferring that onto the customers) and didn't even alter prices.
My man, have you ever been to a really high end restaurant? By high end I mean like at least $35-40 a head without drinks...... I'm sure you have......
I valet for a steakhouse that falls in this category, and they literally have a wine cellar with about 300-400 different kinds of wine, on top of a menu that is constantly changing. Keep it in mind that these waiters are dealing with upper class people who expect nothing less than superior service and for their waiter to know the menu, ehat goes with what, and all of that.
The waiters here make $50,000 - 60,000 a year there.
There is more that goes into than you think. Not all these waiters are low life people without an education.
Are you telling me that if you were to go eat at one of these places, all you would tip would be 10% regardless?
Originally Posted by CampbellSoup
Originally Posted by I AM THAT DUDE
Woopty damn do. Go eat at a family Oriental spot and they got their 10 y/o daughters doing this +%%% My neice is 3 and I can ask her to go get me a Coke and she can tell the difference between it and the other sodas. As far as what drinks go with what dishes, is it some formula that requires great experience, age, and skill to know? Nope, wrote memorization and that's ignoring the fact it is subjective anyways. If you can't remember, write it down. I still fail to recognize that as a skill that is just deserving of a greater tip and recognition than anything else. As for them making 2 bucks an hr. they voluntarily signed up for it, so my heart does not bleed. If they were born into some sort of waitor slavery, where they wanted to get a regular minimum wage job,but oppression forbade it, I'd make it rain.Originally Posted by CampbellSoup
Look, the way I see it is like this. The waiters work off an hourly wage of $2.13 or whatever it is.
I completely understand the idea that, "Okay all this guy or girl is doing is refilling my glass, writing down my order, and coming to check on me and whomever every 10 mins." ----- So why tip when they basically are doing "nothing?" I get that mindset, but you have to really look at it as to how they make their money. If you made $2/hr and their wage is based on a society that is supposed to tip, just at least give them 10 %. I make my living off of tips. Given I park cars as my part time job in school, it still is my only source of income and I do my best to make sure I provide the best service.
But also, for those who have been to high end restaurants and seen how much knowledge those servers have to attain and know to work their, I dont see why you cant tip well especially if you can afford to eat at a place like that. They know the menu by heart, what wines to recommend, etc.
But you signed up to make $2 an hr because 1 you know it's an unsophisticated, low skill profession and not "worthy" of much more anyways, but it's a "risk" you take that some people don't fall for the whole gratuity/service industry scam but knowing most will and on a Friday night you can easily brag about making 200 bucks in 4 hrs just filling drinks. End of the day, they generally come out ahead.
If I owned a restaurant, I'd definitely be a 2 bucks + tips type of owner too. It cuts my operating costs tremendously, about 75% per employee versus paying them like minimum wage. I've seen places that switched from one to the other (from paying full wage to deferring that onto the customers) and didn't even alter prices.
My man, have you ever been to a really high end restaurant? By high end I mean like at least $35-40 a head without drinks...... I'm sure you have......
I valet for a steakhouse that falls in this category, and they literally have a wine cellar with about 300-400 different kinds of wine, on top of a menu that is constantly changing. Keep it in mind that these waiters are dealing with upper class people who expect nothing less than superior service and for their waiter to know the menu, ehat goes with what, and all of that.
The waiters here make $50,000 - 60,000 a year there.
There is more that goes into than you think. Not all these waiters are low life people without an education.
Are you telling me that if you were to go eat at one of these places, all you would tip would be 10% regardless?
Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe
Originally Posted by mondaynightraw
Dudes tip even if the service is bad?![]()
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Even when the service is bad, I'll leave like 10%.....
my gf on the other hand, will not leave anything except a note on the back of the receipt telling the server how bad he/she was![]()
Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe
Originally Posted by mondaynightraw
Dudes tip even if the service is bad?![]()
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Even when the service is bad, I'll leave like 10%.....
my gf on the other hand, will not leave anything except a note on the back of the receipt telling the server how bad he/she was![]()