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Can you start by defining what you are referring to as Black culture?
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Ok then. You're right. just keep embracing "black culture" and see how many corporate ladders you climb. Embrace the streets and the hoods that they leave us to fight and kill each other in and rap about it for respect. Don't cave in to demands that middle america puts on us, to accept their biased textbooks, to work under their racist management. Close your eyes to the fact that our brethren that you try to uplift are so entrenched in the culture that they have no hope of ever getting beyond their glass box and seeing the world and despise you when you come back and tell them what you learned. Let me know just how far you go.
Where are we?If they won WE wouldn't be here
Where are we?If they won WE wouldn't be here
Are we doing well? Do we have great role models and leaders who bring us together to accomplish things as a united people? What are our current goals? Does anyone know? Have we have conquered unemployment rates? Are we out of debt and garnering long term generational wealth? Are we making our own opportunities for our community to become and empire within itself? Are we cutting our own checks? Are we living at the top of the hill or the bottom?
Please tell me. I'm lost. Where are we?
Ok then. You're right. just keep embracing "black culture" and see how many corporate ladders you climb. Embrace the streets and the hoods that they leave us to fight and kill each other in and rap about it for respect. Don't cave in to demands that middle america puts on us, to accept their biased textbooks, to work under their racist management. Close your eyes to the fact that our brethren that you try to uplift are so entrenched in the culture that they have no hope of ever getting beyond their glass box and seeing the world and despise you when you come back and tell them what you learned. Let me know just how far you go.
Where are we?If they won WE wouldn't be here
Are we doing well? Do we have great role models and leaders who bring us together to accomplish things as a united people? What are our current goals? Does anyone know? Have we have conquered unemployment rates? Are we out of debt and garnering long term generational wealth? Are we making our own opportunities for our community to become and empire within itself? Are we cutting our own checks? Are we living at the top of the hill or the bottom?
Please tell me. I'm lost. Where are we?
I really just don't understand what you mean by "If they won, we wouldn't be here". We are exactly where they need us to be for them to profit and our culture to be totally absorbed. Can you say the same for other minorities?You can say the same for (insert race here) people.
I understand this. And this is part of what I'm saying. African Americans or blacks will support American Culture with the rest of the nation. But unlike whites, blacks don't revert back to being nigerian american, or ethiopian american unless they are actual immigrants. We are stuck in assimilation mode permenantly, and to me that is the extinction of black culture. In order to thrive in assimilation mode we have to sacrifice a level of individuality and cultural difference to make everyone happy.
Dudes need to understand that there is no such thing as a "white america"
They differentiate among themselves and only band together when they feel threatened by non whites.
Irish, Italian, Polish etc people are now considered white but in the early 1900s they weren't.
There is a totem pole among white people. With Anglo saxons being at the top and "lesser whites" like the Mediterraneans and Slavs at the bottom
To me our culture is how we interact with each other through language, entertainment, family, food, etc. That is then projected outward to others to establish a cultural identity. In the 70s we had a specific set of values regarding upward mobility, drug use, even a language for our personal use with each other in greeting and conversation. Acting black meant something different then than it does now. Now acting black does not mean seeking to better yourself and your community. It means embracing rap ideologies, speaking in an unrefined manner, and generally other things associated with being poor.Is black culture to you just the streets and the hood? Shame...
asians - they highly value education. strong family unit. they stick with each other.
hispanics - they value hard work ethic. close family unit. they stick with each other.
Indians - they value education and social mobility. strong family tradition. they stick with each other.
...but blacks - they value individuality. Weak family unit. Crabs in a bucket mentality. Token black guy in every other group.
^ bravo!This whole thread is the problem with Black America. You all talk too much. I say you all because I stopped talking about **** a long time ago and now I do. But you guys, talk all day and night about everything that's wrong and if you had the right leader, or the right amount of money, or the right mindset then everything will be alright. You all have the mindset that once the government makes everything equal than black America can flourish. But until then we'll just sit around and talk about it. Have fun with that.
Once you all realize that nobody owes you anything, then real change will happen.
And seriously, blacks need to become part of am economic system where we can collectively bargain and benefit from membership.
We also need to retire civil rights era style politics and politicians. No more empty handed promises and marches. No more Sharpton and Jackson. These fools clearly feel like they're apart of some romanticized era of civil rights movements and think they earn the right to speak for us all.
^ bravo!This whole thread is the problem with Black America. You all talk too much. I say you all because I stopped talking about **** a long time ago and now I do. But you guys, talk all day and night about everything that's wrong and if you had the right leader, or the right amount of money, or the right mindset then everything will be alright. You all have the mindset that once the government makes everything equal than black America can flourish. But until then we'll just sit around and talk about it. Have fun with that.
Once you all realize that nobody owes you anything, then real change will happen.
I like where you took this. So how do we find new cause. I'm not saying that "making it" is whats important, but what I am saying is that is what seems to be important to our people right now. What will lead us into a new mentality of unity. We make music about us... it gets commercialized. We make clothing that reflects our identity, it gets hyped and commercialized to the point where even we can't buy it. We protest unjust actions against our people, news networks and social media will publicize it in such away that the outcry is more the focal point than the actual incident. We get college educated and end up "whitewashed". What is the next level for the black community? I'm not discouraged. But I am willing to play devil's advocate in order to pry the answers to these questions out.We are at a point of uncertainty
Not sure of ourselves or who we wanna be
Black pride isn't and wasn't solely made on protest and oppression
Through united expression we showed that power is in cause and pride and not in greed or generalizations
From the rag-time jazz players to the dirty graffiti on the walls, we stayed connected on what we could categorize as URBAN.
If makin it in a corporate world is all you care about then by all means do you, but there isn't, hasn't , nor will there ever be a reason for me to forget about my culture or let my kids avoid it.
Culture doesn't die unless you let it, we can't change the attitude's of the majority of our culture, but if we stand blind and ignorant were just as bad as these kids that only want to do what's popular
Don't let the power of the media discourage you, power changes hands and we'll be up again
This whole thread is the problem with Black America. You all talk too much. I say you all because I stopped talking about **** a long time ago and now I do. But you guys, talk all day and night about everything that's wrong and if you had the right leader, or the right amount of money, or the right mindset then everything will be alright. You all have the mindset that once the government makes everything equal than black America can flourish. But until then we'll just sit around and talk about it. Have fun with that.
Once you all realize that nobody owes you anything, then real change will happen.
What clothing do we make?
I like where you took this. So how do we find new cause. I'm not saying that "making it" is whats important, but what I am saying is that is what seems to be important to our people right now. What will lead us into a new mentality of unity. We make music about us... it gets commercialized. We make clothing that reflects our identity, it gets hyped and commercialized to the point where even we can't buy it. We protest unjust actions against our people, news networks and social media will publicize it in such away that the outcry is more the focal point than the actual incident. We get college educated and end up "whitewashed". What is the next level for the black community? I'm not discouraged. But I am willing to play devil's advocate in order to pry the answers to these questions out.