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Somewhere there's a black liberal woman screaming stop the patriarchy! , black men are the white men of the black community.......date that man :lol:

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Black entertainers lowkey be wanting to get rid of their blackness

Diana Ross, The Jacksons etc

Three generations right here

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What are your thoughts regarding the Affirmative Action ruling?

I'm not tripping off it in the first place. AA never benefitted us in the first place.

I thought about making this kind of post in the Asian American thread but wasn't sure if my commentary would be met with open-heartedness and an opportunity for dialogue or if I would be labled a bigot. Maybe there's an Asian brotha that would see this and respond here.


Check out the video from the link above. I got no problem with people wanting people that look like them to do well. But I have noticed a lot of Asian people have been in the comments online with they chest poked out after this ruling. I guess the guy's name in the video is Kenny Xu. Never heard of him, but I guess he is a anti-woke author, fox news contributor. I haven't researched the stats and data he mentioned in the video to counter his claims. My issue is that he was talking at the sista and not talking to her. Ironically, the sister in the video is an Ivy League graduate herself. For all the black brown coalition negroes out there, the only ones trying to unite black and brown people are black people. We need to stop.

I just want Asian people to keep it real and state the real reason they want to go to Ivy league schools. Ivy league education is seen as a proxy for whiteness. Some students, Asian and/or other attend elite universities to challenge themselves against the "top" students across the country but imo a large reason for the interest in those schools is to get close to white people particularly white men. You don't have to live in America to understand the white power structure here. We all know the wealth in this country is concentrated in very few hands. Of the few hands, the over-whelming majority of those few hands are white hands. Asian people clearly understand how things work here. It's not a coincidence that when Asian women swirl, they swirl with essentially white men only. It ain't go nothing to with love and all that other propaganda BS America's try to sell when it comes to interracial dating.

I just don't understand the sentiment of filing a lawsuit against white people to attend a school that was created with the intention of white people in mind. In essence, you are begging people to take your money and let you into "their" private party.

Why not attend a college where you are wanted, valued and appreciated? My mama told me a long time ago you don't ever beg nobody to take your money. This goes for black people also.

Do you think all this AA attention would be going on if Ivy league schools had the same racial faculty makeup of an HBCU? If your answer is no, than you know this doesn't have a lot to do with education. I just don't see Asian kids breaking their necks to be taught math and science by us if we were in those Ivy League positions.
 
How can the roots grow deep if they are uprooted not long after being planted? That is what Western meddling has done.
The soil itself cannot accept the Pan-Africanism tree. The ideology was relevant to African affairs only because of the direct European rule that came with colonialism.

Pan-Africanism ignores the geopolitical context within the continent: it requires one to buy into the idea that before Europeans, Africa was in a permanent state of economic and political utopia, which couldn't be further from the truth (see all the empires that grew and died long before the arrival of the Portuguese). Africa has a very long history of internal conflicts that stem from issues that are relevant to the local populations, and Pan-Africanism's solution to this is essentially "you look alike, you should stop fighting!" Good luck applying that between Rwanda and the DRC.

Another flaw of the ideology is, it assumes that the identity layers within blackness are not more important than blackness itself. This assumption is not valid in Africa: region of origin/ethnicity and nationality are the most important group identifiers. Race (blackness) generally ranks way lower than these two, and it is only ever mentioned when discussing African-to- non African relations.
 
3900stabler 3900stabler You're seeing the trees, but not the forest.

Ivy league schools are the gatekeepers to social, scientific, economic, and political power in America. Forcing the student bodies of these schools to be less diverse is going to lead to an homogenization of the American ruling class (that's the long term goal). That's why AA was important: it made sure that the groups most likely to shape America's future would reflect the diversity that exists in America's lower classes.

I don't think I need to draw a picture to describe what happened in this country when the ruling class was made up of white men only.
 
3900stabler 3900stabler You're seeing the trees, but not the forest.

Ivy league schools are the gatekeepers to social, scientific, economic, and political power in America. Forcing the student bodies of these schools to be less diverse is going to lead to an homogenization of the American ruling class (that's the long term goal). That's why AA was important: it made sure that the groups most likely to shape America's future would reflect the diversity that exists in America's lower classes.

I don't think I need to draw a picture to describe what happened in this country when the ruling class was made up of white men only.

i see what you’re saying, and i don’t think we are past having affirmative action as a utility to address some imbalance in opportunities but is it really the case that it proved to be effective in addressing of the general diversity of our populace in leadership/the ‘ruling class?’
 
The soil itself cannot accept the Pan-Africanism tree. The ideology was relevant to African affairs only because of the direct European rule that came with colonialism.

Pan-Africanism ignores the geopolitical context within the continent: it requires one to buy into the idea that before Europeans, Africa was in a permanent state of economic and political utopia, which couldn't be further from the truth (see all the empires that grew and died long before the arrival of the Portuguese). Africa has a very long history of internal conflicts that stem from issues that are relevant to the local populations, and Pan-Africanism's solution to this is essentially "you look alike, you should stop fighting!" Good luck applying that between Rwanda and the DRC.

Another flaw of the ideology is, it assumes that the identity layers within blackness are not more important than blackness itself. This assumption is not valid in Africa: region of origin/ethnicity and nationality are the most important group identifiers. Race (blackness) generally ranks way lower than these two, and it is only ever mentioned when discussing African-to- non African relations.

The Europeans have their own way of promoting unity through the EU, which prioritizes cooperation over any individual country's internal conflicts or historical disagreements. Despite England's past conflicts with France and Germany's history of genocidal wars, the EU continues to operate successfully. Even Spain's regionalism issues have not hindered their success.

All of which are examples of geopolitical challenges that can be overcome. Similarly, despite internal tribal issues in Nigeria, it is possible to work towards a common goal. While disagreements and conflicts are inevitable in any group, the key is to put aside differences for the greater good. It's unfortunate that Western nations and their entities have frequently interfered in the past, preventing Pan Africanism from developing and potentially failing or succeding on its own.

People often attribute regional differences as the root of problems, but it's too simplistic of an explanation. For instance, the assassination of DRC's first ever elected Prime Minister, which was ordered directly by President Eisenhower, played a significant role in the country's lack of success. If the Prime Minister had not been killed and the country given the opportunity to flourish, the geopolitical landscape of Africa would be vastly different today.
 
i see what you’re saying, and i don’t think we are past having affirmative action as a utility to address some imbalance in opportunities but is it really the case that it proved to be effective in addressing of the general diversity of our populace in leadership/the ‘ruling class?’
I think it's been effective at diversifying the ruling class.

Do you think this country would've elected a black president who was a exceptional as Obama without coming out of an Ivy?

As I said before, Ivy league schools in the modern form are commoners essentially trying to create an aristocracy.

Their roots are from nobodies who fled Europe and when they got here they wanted to create their own nobility and ruling class.

Sometimes, I wonder if the US wouldn't have ended up like Canada or Australia (no war of independence, still considered part of the British empire) if the British crown had offered nobility titles to the rich folks of the American colonies...
 
I think it's been effective at diversifying the ruling class.

Do you think this country would've elected a black president who was a exceptional as Obama without coming out of an Ivy?

i don’t know, maybe not…but his particular circumstances/personal story did also make him uniquely appealing, such that he could ‘prematurely’ run
 
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Principles of Pan Africanism​

Pan-Africanism has two main principles: establishing an African nation and sharing a common culture. These two ideas lay the basis of the pan-Africanism ideology.

  • An African nation
The main idea of pan-Africanism is to have a nation that contains African people, whether that be people from Africa or Africans from around the world.

  • Common culture
Pan-Africanists believe that all Africans have a common culture, and it is through this common culture that an African nation is formed. They also believe in advocacy for African rights and the protection of African culture and history.


These are the main reasons that Pan-Africanism doesn't make sense to me - especially in 2023.

Muammar Gaddafi found out and didn't even get a chance to mess around.
 
Do you think this country would've elected a black president who was a exceptional as Obama without coming out of an Ivy?
I don't know about exceptional. He was used as a puppet. The man was responsible for the removal of Gaddafi who wanted to not use petro dollars and use the gold backed dinar

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Black entertainers lowkey be wanting to get rid of their blackness

Diana Ross, The Jacksons etc

Three generations right here

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Branquiamento….

Conscious or not, many do it. I always give people the benefit of the doubt but when this is what your lineage looks like you can’t help but wonder what’s going on in their minds. Is it two generations finding love in other cultures or are they being fed messages that move them in such a direction? We can never know and it’s kindve rude to assign motives to people. But I see nothing wrong with thinking the question.
 
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