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church... only reason why people try to spray Lexus is because theyre made by Toyota. Lexus GS 460 owner = #bawse that knows how to buy luxury whips that are reliable and retain value.
church... only reason why people try to spray Lexus is because theyre made by Toyota. Lexus GS 460 owner = #bawse that knows how to buy luxury whips that are reliable and retain value.
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whats wrong with toyota though??? supra is one of the greatest cars EVER!
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Nothing. People just have a mind-set that buying a Lexus is pretty much paying for an overprice Toyota.
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Here is how I rank them
1) Audi
2) Lexus
3) Infiniti
4) Bmw/MB
1) Audi
2) Lexus
3) Infiniti
4) Bmw/MB
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anyone have suggestions on good bmw forums? seriously I wanna get some more info on some
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exactly the 911 will kill most other euro cars
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What might be confusing on my post is that I put the cars the class the brand dominates or best at, performance-wise. First off, Porsche shouldn't be in the competition because they do not really complete with every class those other cars does. Second, the 911 has too many versions.
But even if we look at the new 911 that starts at $82k, a sports coupe. What does it compete with?
SL? It's a roadster and starts at $20k more.
S5? Nope, that's against the ISF, E92 and C63 AMG coupe.
R8? Nope, cost a lot more.
640? Perhaps but it is $10k less and it is bigger, ~16" longer and ~5" wider.
Lexus? Nothing. Acura? Nothing. Infiniti? Nothing.
So really, it's hard to compare the 911 to anything in the discussion. Maybe a GTR but even that is a supercar status and $10k more than the 911 now.
But if we really think about it, the 911 really won't kill every one of those if price is considered. The M3 is $20k less than the new 911 and it'll give it a good run for it's money.
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been looking for an e92 m3 just can't find one that has everything i want
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LFA? nope cost alot more.
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That is an understatement.
Funny thing is Lexus is planning on making a new one that is faster and better and more limited so the price will likely go to Veyron range.
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exactly
my mom got the 2013 GS, nothing is "overpriced toyota" about it when youre inside
great interior an that 12.3 screen is serious, its very technologically advanced. awesome features.
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Bmws are cool. Id cop if they were more reliable only the m cars thoguh. My lil cousin trying to sell his 3 series right now... that thing has had problem after problem since he bought it 5 months ago. I don't consider lexus to be upgraded toyotas...maybe in the past but... they doing there own thing. Ls 460 probably the most reliable luxury whip out.
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The GS350 FSport actually beat the M37S, A6 and 535i in MotorTrend comparo.
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1206_six_cylinder_midsize_luxury_sedans/
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Yea I can tell you don't respect opinions.Originally Posted by bleach
i can tell you haven't driven one...nothing drives smoother than a lexus. its like being on a cloudOriginally Posted by CoupeIt88
The upgraded Toyotas
I think BMW is the best, I've been around the block and I would say
1) BMW
2) Benz
3) Audi (Audi is really catching up)
4) Infiniti
5) Lexus
First car I've ever had was an ES300, I now have e92 335i. Lexus are a smooth ride, to me a little too smooth. I like the stiffness and control of a BMW or Audi. I'd never go back to Lexus again, I've driven Camry's also and I can't tell the difference, especially with an ES. Infiniti passed them a couple years ago.
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lexus has the most reliable cars on the road period
and current audis are more reliable than BMW right now also
which BMW does your lil cousin have? (year/model)
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Originally Posted by CoupeIt88
Yea I can tell you don't respect opinions.Originally Posted by bleach
i can tell you haven't driven one...nothing drives smoother than a lexus. its like being on a cloudOriginally Posted by CoupeIt88
The upgraded Toyotas
I think BMW is the best, I've been around the block and I would say
1) BMW
2) Benz
3) Audi (Audi is really catching up)
4) Infiniti
5) Lexus
First car I've ever had was an ES300, I now have e92 335i. Lexus are a smooth ride, to me a little too smooth. I like the stiffness and control of a BMW or Audi. I'd never go back to Lexus again, I've driven Camry's also and I can't tell the difference, especially with an ES. Infiniti passed them a couple years ago.
Drive a Corolla and then an ISF, heck even just an IS350. I'm sure you'll change your mind about Lexus.
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A1.. mi ca sabe pamodee es sta fra BMW mas buen di Lexus.
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I don't get your reasoning because you still have the Audi R8, SLS included for Audi and Mercedes, both of which go for 100k+
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Everyone is always talking abut the new 5series. Some people love it, some people don't care for it too much. But to me, the new 3series
The new interior is WAY better than the e90's...and I have an e92, but this $%%! right here
The new interior is WAY better than the e90's...and I have an e92, but this $%%! right here
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AUDI TT-RS>>>
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da new 3 series is HIDEOUSOriginally Posted by BeatJunkie5
Everyone is always talking abut the new 5series. Some people love it, some people don't care for it too much. But to me, the new 3series
audi and da new benz vehicles lookin way better....
da current gen 3 series looks alot better now.
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Like I said, I tried not including Porsche in the list and only limited it to BMW, MB, Lexus, Audi, Infiniti and Acura. The main reason I put The Boxster/Cayman is simply it is clearly the best of the other 3 convertibles.
And as I said in my other reply, the 911 doesn't really compete with anything. Then you'd have to consider all the other 911s and that just get more and more complicated. I could go more into detail then other cars has to get into the equation too like Astons, Jaguar, Maserati and even Ferrari. (iirc the California is around $180k, about the same as the SLS).
So for my reply, just consider that I was just comparing those 6 and just let the Boxster/Cayman slip for that one segment.
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BMW and Audi, please.
