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Breaking News: Derrick Rose named 2010-2011 MVP
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Game bruh, seriously. For instance, alot of these guys in the pro were statistically unimpressive in college/Europe, Take Marvin Williams, and Brandon Jennings respectively- If they were drafted on college production like Sheldon Williams who was perhaps the greatest reach in NBA draft history than they would have never been drafted as high as they were.Originally Posted by dland24
When you have a group of players who are extremely close in terms of their value to their teams, what should you use to compare them then?Originally Posted by kix4kix
Don't use that talk on here, cats love talking about stats I didn't even know existed, let alone used to determine the value of a basketball player. I love stats as much as the next man, but when it is the crux of an argument.Sometimes I don't need to see the stat line to know a value of a given player, I just need eyes.
You say it shouldnt be used as the crux of an argument. But what should then? Your eyes? Isnt the point of arguing to provide some sort of evidence or basis of your argument? When you are comparing two (or three) players to each other, if you cant use stats to compare, what can you use?
I am seriously asking this. Id love a response.
Also stats rely so much on playing time, and rosters. For instance, before Al Jefferson was traded, if one based off stats alone would they not say Jefferson > Love?
Stats are nice to support an argument, but the first and foremost thing should be their game, and anyone who has hooped, knows damn well 80% of what goes on does not show up in the boxscore. It's really quite simple, can one play or not? If they are close enough to where stats are needed, it is probably subjective at that point anyway......
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics"
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Game bruh, seriously. For instance, alot of these guys in the pro were statistically unimpressive in college/Europe, Take Marvin Williams, and Brandon Jennings respectively- If they were drafted on college production like Sheldon Williams who was perhaps the greatest reach in NBA draft history than they would have never been drafted as high as they were.Originally Posted by dland24
When you have a group of players who are extremely close in terms of their value to their teams, what should you use to compare them then?Originally Posted by kix4kix
Don't use that talk on here, cats love talking about stats I didn't even know existed, let alone used to determine the value of a basketball player. I love stats as much as the next man, but when it is the crux of an argument.Sometimes I don't need to see the stat line to know a value of a given player, I just need eyes.
You say it shouldnt be used as the crux of an argument. But what should then? Your eyes? Isnt the point of arguing to provide some sort of evidence or basis of your argument? When you are comparing two (or three) players to each other, if you cant use stats to compare, what can you use?
I am seriously asking this. Id love a response.
Also stats rely so much on playing time, and rosters. For instance, before Al Jefferson was traded, if one based off stats alone would they not say Jefferson > Love?
Stats are nice to support an argument, but the first and foremost thing should be their game, and anyone who has hooped, knows damn well 80% of what goes on does not show up in the boxscore. It's really quite simple, can one play or not? If they are close enough to where stats are needed, it is probably subjective at that point anyway......
"Lies, damned lies, and statistics"
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The years lebron won it was he not the Best Player on the Best Team in the league?
This year the Bulls were the Best Team and their Best Player is Rose.
whatever...
This year the Bulls were the Best Team and their Best Player is Rose.
whatever...
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The years lebron won it was he not the Best Player on the Best Team in the league?
This year the Bulls were the Best Team and their Best Player is Rose.
whatever...
This year the Bulls were the Best Team and their Best Player is Rose.
whatever...
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i seriously hope that was sarcasm...
after watching Lebron play this season....yes.
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i seriously hope that was sarcasm...
after watching Lebron play this season....yes.
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after watching Lebron play this season....yes.
You sound stupid... smh at my fellow Bulls fans.
LeBron had a great season.
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after watching Lebron play this season....yes.
You sound stupid... smh at my fellow Bulls fans.
LeBron had a great season.
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^ what's even more stupid is your ability to quote.....
i'd want a guy that knows how to finish, is the 1st option when the game is on the line, and that person wants the ball in that situation...
i'd want a guy that knows how to finish, is the 1st option when the game is on the line, and that person wants the ball in that situation...
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^ what's even more stupid is your ability to quote.....
i'd want a guy that knows how to finish, is the 1st option when the game is on the line, and that person wants the ball in that situation...
i'd want a guy that knows how to finish, is the 1st option when the game is on the line, and that person wants the ball in that situation...
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^yea, hard to navigate this site on an iPad. sorry about that...
Over LeBron? Really?
Do you remember the marketing plans this team concocted to get that guy over here? The boxes sent to his house? He's the best player in the world, hands down. DRose isn't even the best PG in the league.
Derrick Rose went from being underrated to overrated in about 5 weeks...
Over LeBron? Really?
Do you remember the marketing plans this team concocted to get that guy over here? The boxes sent to his house? He's the best player in the world, hands down. DRose isn't even the best PG in the league.
Derrick Rose went from being underrated to overrated in about 5 weeks...
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^yea, hard to navigate this site on an iPad. sorry about that...
Over LeBron? Really?
Do you remember the marketing plans this team concocted to get that guy over here? The boxes sent to his house? He's the best player in the world, hands down. DRose isn't even the best PG in the league.
Derrick Rose went from being underrated to overrated in about 5 weeks...
Over LeBron? Really?
Do you remember the marketing plans this team concocted to get that guy over here? The boxes sent to his house? He's the best player in the world, hands down. DRose isn't even the best PG in the league.
Derrick Rose went from being underrated to overrated in about 5 weeks...
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Yea and Derrick Rose didn't want him. He knew what the world knew later. That Lebron is not the 1st option when it comes to clutch basketball.
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Yea and Derrick Rose didn't want him. He knew what the world knew later. That Lebron is not the 1st option when it comes to clutch basketball.
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Bron gettin robbed for MVP
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Bron gettin robbed for MVP
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Finally its official:
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6468133
Congrats again to D-Rose!
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6468133
Congrats again to D-Rose!
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Finally its official:
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6468133
Congrats again to D-Rose!
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=6468133
Congrats again to D-Rose!
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im a lebron fan and if u ask me i think overall lebron is a better player and i would start him before rose, with that said u cant say lebron got robbed
cuz rose had a great year his stats are there ,, you cant be mad its usually the first place team that gets mvp
cuz rose had a great year his stats are there ,, you cant be mad its usually the first place team that gets mvp
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im a lebron fan and if u ask me i think overall lebron is a better player and i would start him before rose, with that said u cant say lebron got robbed
cuz rose had a great year his stats are there ,, you cant be mad its usually the first place team that gets mvp
cuz rose had a great year his stats are there ,, you cant be mad its usually the first place team that gets mvp
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Listen champ, Lebron had his chance to have his name in the MVP award running and be the 1st choice but true to form he choked it away by missing all those clutch shots down the stretch for his team in key games........mostly on national TV at that.
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Listen champ, Lebron had his chance to have his name in the MVP award running and be the 1st choice but true to form he choked it away by missing all those clutch shots down the stretch for his team in key games........mostly on national TV at that.
