??Originally Posted by AK Nako
Albums are reviewed in magazines several weeks before they are released in stores so that the magazine sales can coincide with the album release. I'm speaking specifically about a magazine article I read (in entertainment weekly or somewhere I want to say) that released the month after Biggie died pointing out how prior to his death critical reception of the album really wasnt THAT good (though they never really are for double discs) but how post-humously all of the reviews were giving it 4-5 stars and albums sales were somewhere around 6-700,000. It was the first time I had ever even seen someone acknowledge the effect a rappers death has on his sales and how people viewed his legacy.
look at what you wrote. like REALLY look at it. Look at the argument you made there about Cam. Then look at the names you list again, then get back to me.Originally Posted by NostrandAve68
Overall Cam isn't even a top 10 greatest rapper outta NY
Jay
Nas
Rakim
Kool G
Biggie
Ghostface
Prodigy [94-200![0]](/styles/default/xenforo/NTemojis/alien.gif "Alien 0]")
Pharaoh Monch
Big Pun
Chuck D
Then you got cats like Masta Ace, Cormega, Az, Styles P, OC, Big L, Gza.
This thread is foolishness, cats adding in sub categories like "swag" as a reason why Cam is a top 10 rapper.Has Cam ever made an album with the impact of an Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Infamous, Liquid Words or Ready To Die, has Cam every been renowned as a rapper that helped to shape & spawn a generation of great rappers Jr Writer?!?!Is Cam known for any classic collaborative production no Kanye, Large Professor, Havoc, Hitmen, Rza.
Post your top 10, I'm curious to see what it looks like if you think Cam deserves a spot.
Originally Posted by u ttocs
Albums are reviewed in magazines several weeks before they are released in stores so that the magazine sales can coincide with the album release. I'm speaking specifically about a magazine article I read (in entertainment weekly or somewhere I want to say) that released the month after Biggie died pointing out how prior to his death critical reception of the album really wasnt THAT good (though they never really are for double discs) but how post-humously all of the reviews were giving it 4-5 stars and albums sales were somewhere around 6-700,000. It was the first time I had ever even seen someone acknowledge the effect a rappers death has on his sales and how people viewed his legacy.
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and to everyone saying Cam isn't top 10 in his state, i ask you again instead of listing off dumb one word answers, explain to me why he isnt.
look at what you wrote. like REALLY look at it. Look at the argument you made there about Cam. Then look at the names you list again, then get back to me.Originally Posted by NostrandAve68
Overall Cam isn't even a top 10 greatest rapper outta NY
Jay
Nas
Rakim
Kool G
Biggie
Ghostface
Prodigy [94-200
Pharaoh Monch
Big Pun
Chuck D
Then you got cats like Masta Ace, Cormega, Az, Styles P, OC, Big L, Gza.
This thread is foolishness, cats adding in sub categories like "swag" as a reason why Cam is a top 10 rapper.Has Cam ever made an album with the impact of an Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Infamous, Liquid Words or Ready To Die, has Cam every been renowned as a rapper that helped to shape & spawn a generation of great rappers Jr Writer?!?!Is Cam known for any classic collaborative production no Kanye, Large Professor, Havoc, Hitmen, Rza.
yo can't make a statement like Prodigy (94-2000) because you're implying he deserves top 10 consideration for a selection of his body of work. OK fine. Have any of you HEARD s.d.e.?
I'm just trying to have an objective mature discussion with y'all and people are in here trying to get their post count up. explain to me why based on his career's work Cam is not top 10.
like i said, 99% of the people replying here are doing so based on who they THINK they should be listing ahead of Cam. Most of them have nevereven listened to the majority of the artists they listed.
Originally Posted by MR MONDAY NIIGHT
Why does rap need substance?
It's music..not a lesson
Originally Posted by NostrandAve68
Yeah because only hypebeasts listen to Chuck DHow can you not list Chuck D as a top 10 rapper outta NY when he is mainly the reason why socially conscious hip-hop became somewhat popular in the early 90's. Inspired a whole bunch of cats from Dead Prez, Talib, Mos Def, ATCQ & etc. Chuck D sold more records, has more classic tracks, inspired more artists and is significantly more important an artist to Hip-hop than Cam.
I didn't say it was necessary for substance to be present. I simply pointed out that music is art and can be expressed in a variety ofdifferent ways, just as you stated, so there is always going to be music with and without substance.
