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Thug Motivation 101 > GRODTOriginally Posted by rocyaice
Originally Posted by NEIGHB0RH00D
actually, i agree with harlem.
GRODT > TBA & AG
Stop it. Just stop it. Get Rich Or Die Trying can stand on its own against EACH album. But better than BOTH? Stop it. Like Gunna said, GRODT is carried by its production and catchy hooks. Not terrible lyrics but in comparison to The Black Album and American GangsteR? Its inferior. Let's don't sit here and make GRODT something. Its riding music. Solid riding music. One of the best albums of the 00's. But take away the instrumentals from TBA and AG and I still think I can ride to Jay's +$%. You take away GRODT and just straight acapella? Wouldn't even be listenable.
Everyone knows this is all true. No one should be discrediting him. They're just saying, without Em and Dre do you really think 50 would havebeen AS popular? I know without Dre GRODT wouldn't have been half as good without the production.Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
GRODT did have 2 #1 singles... Another #3... Then the buzz of Magic Stick (which was #1 or 2)...
How yall givin Dre & Em all the credit?? In the calander year of 2003, 50 had more Billboard Top 5 singles then Dre or Em had in ANY year in their careers. (If im not mistaken)...
I know cats are willing to say anything to discredit 50, but I don't see Stat Quo, Obie Trice, Knoc'turnal, D12 and them cats with #1 hits or MULTI platinum plaques... And even if you guys are still not willing to give 50 his credit, he propelled the first G Unit album to MULTI platinum status, Lloyd Banks solo, Buck went plat, Yayo went gold, Game went MULTI...
Is that hard for cats to admit that 50 is a proven hitmaker??
That's not what I'm saying. But what do you think helped to blow up 50 more than anything else? In The Club.Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
Dre "produced" - "In The Club" & "21 Questions"... Someone else produced "PIMP" & "Magic Stick"...
And as is usually the case with Dr Dre produced records, he came up with less of the idea of either of those tracks (as referenced in the Source article with cats that produced under Dre @ that time), they were the actual onces that composed those beats, Dre later added a few sounds to them...
50 has #1 produced by producers other than Dre... So if you're trying to imply that he hasn't made hit without his assistance, you're wrong...
Originally Posted by THE FAME
Once again we have someone bringin up the factors of Co-signs and career guidance...
as if Jay didn't take advantage of the same.
Son shut up seriously, u stay throwing out the most ridiculous opinions. Sometime u say some poignant sh-- but 70% of the time its nothing but bscoming from you.Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
GRODT is better than both of those albums (TBA & AG)... Of course admitting that on NT is taboo cause "No ones better than Camel"...
Originally Posted by IKnowRap
50 cent fans should realize its not always approriate to bring up Jay-Z in ery 50 thread....where at a freakin funeral for cryin out loud...smh
Originally Posted by THE FAME
I could have sworn a argument was being made that GRODT was better than TBA or AG.
Originally Posted by NostrandAve68
At the end of the day 50 ONLY made 1 GREAT album... 7 yrs and only produced 1 great album.. his only legacy are his sales thats why he clings onto that so much, people like Nas, Jay and etc legacy is their MUSIC, thats the difference between 50's career and others.
Originally Posted by gunnascott
Harlem dude. With dre and em there would have been to in da club or wanksta so cuts his slaes in 1/2 off the bat. Secondly without that credability that came with dre and em that woulda meant 50 woulda sold 5 worldwide at best. Secondly where in from The South, nobody know who Curtis was until Wanksta dropped.
Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
This nothing more than the SAME arguments being brought up from the LAST thread...
Cats act as if Curtis career is based soley on the marginal sales from BISD... If that makes his career over, what about the 85% of rappers that will ultimatley sell way less??
Originally Posted by Krazyrodzilla
Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
This nothing more than the SAME arguments being brought up from the LAST thread...
Cats act as if Curtis career is based soley on the marginal sales from BISD... If that makes his career over, what about the 85% of rappers that will ultimatley sell way less??
Other rappers don't talk about sales like he does.
Originally Posted by gunnascott
Lando I'm pretty sure dre mixed it and besides it was released on the 8 mile soundtrack which helped get it exposure.