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That move is taught at almost every level. And it is not a travel. Some cats just be running their mouths.
Check this video from Attack Gym training Mayo, Wagner, etc.
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Not a travel. I am a close friend of the guy running the drill there. Perfectly legal move
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Looks legal to me. The pivot foot is the foot people typically wouldn't leave as the pivot. That's why it looks awkward.
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"keep playing like a missed shot "
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holy crap dajuan wagner
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Still looking to cop an old Dwags Cavs jersey. He is that dude.
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I wanna see wag in the L.
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Isn't that what you do with an up and under anyways? It just looks weird since they take long strides but it aiint a travel.
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Dajuan traveled on his first one though haha.
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you can always watch him drop 78 in some local new jersey proam summer league.
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Updated: October 16, 2009, 11:19 AM ET
[h2]NBA to alter traveling rules[/h2]
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NBA players will be able to take two steps before they have to stop, pass or shoot this season.
The NBA has put into writing a rule allowing players on the move to gather the ball, after driving or catching it, and then take two steps. Throughout NBAhistory, the rulebook said players could take one step.
The new rule reads, in part: "A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to astop, passing or shooting the ball."
It is believed to be the first time any league, at any level anywhere in the world, has explicitly allowed two steps.
In March, NBA vice president of referee operations Joe Borgia told TrueHoop's Henry Abbott thatreferees had long been instructed to ignore the rulebook on this point and allow two steps.
On a conference call with reporters earlier this week, NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson told Abbott: "Based onJoe's comments, when you had a conversation with Joe, we did in fact tweak the language on traveling in this year's book."
Enforcement of the one-step rule has been hit-or-miss at every level of basketball. Archival footage shows NBA greats, from Magic Johnson and Pete Maravichto Bob Cousy and Julius Erving, getting away with two steps. Borgia, whose father was also an NBA official, said he cannot remember a time when NBA refereesdid not allow two steps.
Others insist allowing two steps represents an NBA strategy to aid scorers and make the league more exciting. Legendary point guard and current Knickbroadcaster Walt "Clyde" Frazier says the league relaxed traveling standards some time ago to increase scoring.
"They go 20 feet to the hoop without dribbling one time," Frazier said. "This is what they are getting away with nowadays. Some of them areso obvious. You'll hear me on the broadcast saying 'That's a travel! Watch the feet!' Wilt [Chamberlain] would have averaged 100 points a gameif they had let him do that.
"When guys couldn't put up points, about when they changed the hand-check rule, they made things easier for scorers, because these playerscan't shoot like we did," Frazier said. "Those few years when the Knicks were good [the early 1990s] -- that wasn't prettybasketball."
Whether or not this will affect play on the court remains to be seen. Referees have long been instructed to allow two steps and in interviews with NBAplayers last season there was some confusion about the rule. But most said they thought they were allowed to take two steps.
ESPN.com TrueHoop blogger Henry Abbott contributed to this story.
[h2]NBA to alter traveling rules[/h2]
Comment Email Print ESPN.com news services
NBA players will be able to take two steps before they have to stop, pass or shoot this season.
The NBA has put into writing a rule allowing players on the move to gather the ball, after driving or catching it, and then take two steps. Throughout NBAhistory, the rulebook said players could take one step.
The new rule reads, in part: "A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to astop, passing or shooting the ball."
It is believed to be the first time any league, at any level anywhere in the world, has explicitly allowed two steps.
In March, NBA vice president of referee operations Joe Borgia told TrueHoop's Henry Abbott thatreferees had long been instructed to ignore the rulebook on this point and allow two steps.
On a conference call with reporters earlier this week, NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson told Abbott: "Based onJoe's comments, when you had a conversation with Joe, we did in fact tweak the language on traveling in this year's book."
Enforcement of the one-step rule has been hit-or-miss at every level of basketball. Archival footage shows NBA greats, from Magic Johnson and Pete Maravichto Bob Cousy and Julius Erving, getting away with two steps. Borgia, whose father was also an NBA official, said he cannot remember a time when NBA refereesdid not allow two steps.
Others insist allowing two steps represents an NBA strategy to aid scorers and make the league more exciting. Legendary point guard and current Knickbroadcaster Walt "Clyde" Frazier says the league relaxed traveling standards some time ago to increase scoring.
"They go 20 feet to the hoop without dribbling one time," Frazier said. "This is what they are getting away with nowadays. Some of them areso obvious. You'll hear me on the broadcast saying 'That's a travel! Watch the feet!' Wilt [Chamberlain] would have averaged 100 points a gameif they had let him do that.
"When guys couldn't put up points, about when they changed the hand-check rule, they made things easier for scorers, because these playerscan't shoot like we did," Frazier said. "Those few years when the Knicks were good [the early 1990s] -- that wasn't prettybasketball."
Whether or not this will affect play on the court remains to be seen. Referees have long been instructed to allow two steps and in interviews with NBAplayers last season there was some confusion about the rule. But most said they thought they were allowed to take two steps.
ESPN.com TrueHoop blogger Henry Abbott contributed to this story.
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That's going to be called a travel most of time since people aren't accustomed to seeing the established pivot foot being raised following a slow longstride like that. Technically, it's just an up and under move.
Exhibit A:
http://www.youtube.com/v/-Jbm8MxrwgM&hl=en&fs=1&
Exhibit A:
http://www.youtube.com/v/-Jbm8MxrwgM&hl=en&fs=1&
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someone has to explain how that's not a travel. The Kobe move is different from the ATTACK video. If Kobe took one more step, then it would be similar tothe ATTACK video. I still don't get how that's not a travel.
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I understand it now after reading all of these changes to the rulebook yesterday. It states if the pivot foot is lifted, the ball must be released before thepivot foot hits the ground again. It isn't a travel, no matter how bad I think it looks, and I learned something after all these years playing.
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[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Based on the rules[/color] [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]before yesterdayschanges[/color]
I do have one problem with this rule; if the rule states that the pivot foot can be lifted so long as the ball is shot or passed before the pivot is returnedto the floor, then why not add dribbling to the list? For example, you've caught the ball on the wing, and have your left foot as your pivot and right footas your jab. You begin to drive, take your first step with your right, but lift your pivot foot before the ball hits the ground on your dribble. You'll becalled for a travel.
Somewhat of an inconsistency, in my opinion.
I do have one problem with this rule; if the rule states that the pivot foot can be lifted so long as the ball is shot or passed before the pivot is returnedto the floor, then why not add dribbling to the list? For example, you've caught the ball on the wing, and have your left foot as your pivot and right footas your jab. You begin to drive, take your first step with your right, but lift your pivot foot before the ball hits the ground on your dribble. You'll becalled for a travel.
Somewhat of an inconsistency, in my opinion.
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definitely an inconsistency, but the advantage of lifting the pivot foot before dribble would give the offensive players an advantage. This attack move isbasically the kobe move with out the reverse spin. Its just and up and under with a step. And by NBA rules its legal.
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this year ought to be fun.
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definitely a travel, but it's minor. They're picking up their pivot foot to go a little bit further on the step through, which makes it illegal. Youhave to start your jump before your pivot foot comes up
