college kid dunks on LeBron; Nike takes the tapes

[chi ill]

Why would they even give them the tape ? That's dumb in the first place .

 

[i nasmatic i]

I would have switches tapes on those !#$%#%% and uploaded the video that night on youtube.

 

[Sam Darnold Heisman #8]

Originally Posted by JD617

Ryan Miller: [The dunk] was good. I haven't looked online to read too much about it. It was as good as it could've been hyped up to be. LeBron's team actually lost two out of three games to these college guys. It was LeBron; Danny Green, the rookie; Christian Eyenga, the rookie; Tarence Kinsey, who's on the team; and one of LeBron's high school buddies. And Jordan Crawford blew by Danny Green, the kid from North Carolina on the Cavs. And LeBron came for some help defense, and they jumped at the same time, and he threw it down with two hands over LeBron. This is, like, a 6-foot-4 kid.

Interviewer: Man. So then, when you get word that they want your camera, then, how did that all break down?
Miller: It's funny because LeBron's team won that game, actually, [the one] with the dunk. And then LeBron's team lost the next game to the same group of college guys. And LeBron was just standing there, grabbing some water, 'cause it was winners stay on, so LeBron had to sit out a game. And I actually went up and introduced myself and said, "Hey, I'm Ryan Miller." LeBron's good friends with Jonny Flynn, and I know Jonny real well, and I was like, "[I'm] good friends with Jonny." Jonny gave me a little message to tell LeBron if I ended up seeing him. He's like, "Oh, where are you from?" I said, "Syracuse" - [it was a] "nice to meet you" type of thing. He's pretty friendly. Then two minutes later, I saw him go over to Lynn Merritt, the director of basketball at Nike, and then he was talking to him for a second, and then Lynn brought me and another camera guy over. We were the only two people filming - it was later at night - and they said, we need your tape. They claimed you weren't supposed to be shooting the college and the pro guys working out, and I was told earlier in the day that you could, and there was no media policy saying you couldn't. It had to have been because LeBron - he played terribly all day, actually. Those three games he played terribly. So my guess is he didn't want anybody seeing the footage. That's the only thing we could think of.

Interviewer: So when you get your camera or tape - so that tape is gone?

Miller: I don't know what happened to it. He originally claimed, well, like, these guys are just getting in shape right now, these Cavs guys. People don't need to be seeing 'em. He was kind of giving me the runaround with different excuses. There was a guy in charge of the media who took my tape, and he's like, "You know what, lemme just pass this by the Nike guys, and I'll give it back to you in the morning." But the next morning, he said the director at Nike actually wanted the tape himself, so I have no idea where it is.

man not a good day at all for ledunkedon.

 

[im not you]

Dude is a straight lame for giving up the tape so easily...

 

[bijald0331]

just saw adande make this point on PTI: "Who even records on tape anymore?? Isn't it all digital now"

the corporate athlete is one of the worst things to happen to sports. im not a kobe fan but atleast I know the dude has faults and his personality isn'texactly the greatest out there. At least I know he is human. LeBron seems to be FAKE.

 

[mjdalegend]

man, Nike reps with some BS talk there and dude just bending over like that.

 

[sirius lee handsome]

What a fraud. How shameful

 

[ryeno]

isnt that some kind of violation of freedom of speech? Unless there was some waiver signed that any film becomes sole possession of Nike, they shouldnt beallowed to take tape away like that.

 

[bijald0331]

its a private enterprise(Nike), hosting a private event (Skills Academy). Same exact scenario at magic shows and whatnot where you cannot film the performance.There is no violation. Freedom of speech does not apply.

 

[truthgetsbusy]

Originally Posted by bijald0331

its a private enterprise(Nike), hosting a private event (Skills Academy). Same exact scenario at magic shows and whatnot where you cannot film the performance. There is no violation. Freedom of speech does not apply.

Not really

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

bijald is right. The corporate athlete (Kobe, A-Rod, Lebron) is an offense to fans everywhere.

Corporate athletes sell themselves at every possible opportunity, needing to be loved by everyone, parading a false identity that is watered down intoextremely bland character qualities that you would find in a damn comic book: 'strong,' 'brave,' 'confident,' 'likable' Theneed to be loved in order to squeeze every dollar out of consumers is shallow and disheartening, for we're not allowed to see who our favorite playersreally are.

It's not even the athlete's fault entirely. The NBA, MLB and NFL need there to be an attractive act like Michael Jordan (or even multiple Jordan's,as the NBA tries to do now), who would bring in more money. This thinking makes sports less interesting on an individual level, since the media seeks toexclusively feed us the star corporate athlete, who jumps at the chance to be seen/heard. Where are the stories of the role players, the rest of the makeup ofthe team? They're nowhere, and the public doesn't seem to mind. Only when there's a contract struggle or injury do the role players get any realpublicity.

 

[dman14]

cant wait for skip bayless to mention this lol

 

[darthska]

ethanlee29:

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NO WAAAY!!!!!

That's bad news for LeBron, that people are making gifs making fun of this.

Jalrulz:

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this never even made it on to sports center top 10.

That's usually the way it goes when LeBron is on the wrong end of an ESPN highlight.�

 

[xblker47]

this whole situation is bad on both Lebrons part and Nikes part

 

[darthska]

bijald0331:

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its a private enterprise(Nike), hosting a private event (Skills Academy). Same exact scenario at magic shows and whatnot where you cannot film the performance. There is no violation. Freedom of speech does not apply.
If it's not explicitly stated that filming is prohibited, then it's allowed. You can't step into court and expect 'Well, it wasunderstood by everyone that filming was not allowed' to hold up in your defense.

 

[2wenty thre3]

LeBron and Nike just made this situation 100x worst...

Patiently waiting for someone at Nike to leak the tape

 

[japanair21]

That's my boy AL....

 

[bijald0331]

Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy

Originally Posted by bijald0331

its a private enterprise(Nike), hosting a private event (Skills Academy). Same exact scenario at magic shows and whatnot where you cannot film the performance. There is no violation. Freedom of speech does not apply.

Not really

please explain.

 

[dwadefan]

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

ethanlee29:

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NO WAAAY!!!!!

That's bad news for LeBron, that people are making gifs making fun of this.

 

[lazy b]

The guy that recorded it is an SU alum. Good !%#@.

Wish he had the balls to say no to Nike though.

 

[bijald0331]

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

bijald0331:

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its a private enterprise(Nike), hosting a private event (Skills Academy). Same exact scenario at magic shows and whatnot where you cannot film the performance. There is no violation. Freedom of speech does not apply.

If it's not explicitly stated that filming is prohibited, then it's allowed. You can't step into court and expect 'Well, it was understood by everyone that filming was not allowed' to hold up in your defense.


How is this different then a magic show when people cannot film because they can distribute the video for profit? Isn't Nike holding a private event thatthey invited cameramen too but they own the rights to the footage??? Just like the NBA disclaimer claiming reproduction and distribution cannot be made withexpress written consent of the NBA?

 

[darthska]

^ It's different than a magic show because it is definitely explicitly stated in your premiere magic events that independent filming is not allowed.

It's not an assumption.

It's stated.

So when dude comes up to yu asking for your tape and you go 'Nope. I'm allowed. Where are the rules saying it's not allowed?', he can point tothe sign on the wall and/or pull out the pamphlet you were handed at the door explaining that independent filming is not allowed.

That's how it's different. This wasn't an event where independent filming was prohibited.

And the NBA disclaimer isn't assumed, either. It is explicitly stated in every broadcast, at the beginning, the end, and at halftime of every broadcast.

 

[bijald0331]

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

^ It's different than a magic show because it is definitely explicitly stated in your premiere magic events that independent filming is not allowed.

It's not an assumption.

It's stated.

So when dude comes up to yu asking for your tape and you go 'Nope. I'm allowed. Where are the rules saying it's not allowed?', he can point to the sign on the wall and/or pull out the pamphlet you were handed at the door explaining that independent filming is not allowed.

That's how it's different. This wasn't an event where independent filming was prohibited.

And the NBA disclaimer isn't assumed, either. It is explicitly stated in every broadcast, at the beginning, the end, and at halftime of every broadcast.

Then there must have been some sort of waiver or agreement with the cameramen, right? Or the cameraman is an idiot for giving the tape away? btw, thanks forthe clarification.

 

[blackmagnus514]

LOL

 

[darthska]

bijald0331:

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there must have been some sort of waiver or agreement with the cameramen, right? Or the cameraman is an idiot for giving the tape away?
The cameraman is an idiot. All indications are that there was no agreement or waiver, and that the Nike folks just strongarmed people with camerasfrom the jump, relying on the elements of surprise and confusion to grab the tapes while people were... surprised and confused as to whether or not they couldhave them.