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Warner Bros Developing The Joker Origin Movie; Not DCEU Related?

Warner Bros. is developing a movie about the origin story for The Joker that will not be part of the DC Extended Universe. WB is only a few years into launching the DCEU and has done so to varying levels of success. Financially, the films have been box office hits, while the critical reception had been mixed at best, prior to Wonder Woman‘s success. The studio has no intentions on stopping the DCEU or its lineup, and has several projects currently in development with release dates staked out till 2020.

But, the DCEU is not enough for the studio. WB is now intent on creating a new banner of the studio that will further explore the DC Comics characters at their disposal in new and interesting ways. To kick this off, an origin story for Batman’s most iconic villain is in store.

Deadline is reporting that The Joker will be the first film to come out of this new banner and has already lined up a director, writers, and one mega producer. The Hangover‘s Todd Phillips will direct the origin film with 8 Mile‘s Scott Silver co-writing alongside him. They will be backed by none other than Martin Scorsese as a producer, but THR cautions his involvement is still fluid. The film will star a new actor in the role, with this report pointing to a possible 1980s setting.

Moviegoing audiences have already seen three live-action portrayals of Joker, with Jared Leto’s being the most recent and controversial, but none have explored the character in this way – especially not with him being the focal point. What makes this film even more intriguing is it not being attached to the DCEU. This will allow the creatives involved to tell truly original and standalone films that take characters in drastically different directions than the main DCEU story, almost like the Red Son Superman movie Kong: Skull Island director Jordan Vogt-Roberts is keen on.

With so many shared universes popping up in Hollywood, this is one way for WB to keep their comic book movie lineup fresh and different. Even though the clamor for a Joker origin story may not be there now, the possibilities that WB would have with this new banner are unlimited. They would have the freedom to tell any story they desired and take a similar approach to their Elseworld comics. The lack of continuity holds the potential for something new, but also creates the chance for confusion.

The question still remains why they would launch this idea with a Joker film that is already being criticized. A Joker origin story is not something many comic fans want to know, and it is an odd move to make with the DCEU finally hitting its stride. It will undoubtedly be confusing for many to see a young Joker film one year and then see Leto reprise the role with a different take in a different universe soon after. Recasting Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, and so on for these films would also be surprising, possibly eliminating them from these stories.

Clearly, this announcement raises a lot of questions, but also presents WB and DC’s characters with plenty of possibilities. With The Joker just starting to be developed, it may be some time before we start to learn more.
 
Sounds like a terrible idea.

But if they're smart (in this case, WB overall) they'll make it vague enough where technically the crazy person isn't actually the Joker.
 
What's funny to me is that sounds like a move Ike (over at Disney/Marvel) would pull after Feige took Marvel studios from under his control.

I could've saw him setting up another studio and then making non-MCU/not in continuity Marvel movies based off of What Ifs and **** :lol:

This is just weird. Its either WB is greedy and dumb and just want to make more money or they have no faith in the DCEU and want to start making serious films based off this source material that are actually good.
 
:lol: Article reads like a traditional April Fool's article,
-Set apart from DCEU
-Todd Phillips directing
-Brand new actor playing the Joker
-Martin Scorsese producing

all that's missing is either a Leo rumor or to prove that this is seperate from the DCEU, they are in talks with Jessie Eisenberg to take on the role
 
If it's not from the DCEU, then Geoff Johns probably can't smack these clowns and tell them to chill out. Johns and Berg are finally steering the ship in the right direction and started it off right with Wonder Woman. Don't mess that up.
 
Jared Leto’s Joker Expected in Suicide Squad 2 & Gotham City Sirens

Jared Leto’s The Joker, which originally appeared in David Ayer’s Suicide Squad last year, is expected to return in future DCEU installments Suicide Squad 2 and Gotham City Sirens. Warner Bros. has been building up their DC Comics shared universe, the DC Extended Universe, since Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel in 2013, but the superhero world truly launched in the director’s 2016 followup, Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice. The DCEU continued to expand in Suicide Squadand Patty Jenkins’ Wonder Woman, to the point that all the major players for Justice League have been introduced – as well as plenty of villains in the DC-inspired universe.

Suicide Squad in particular introduced fan-favorite villains like Deadshot (Will Smith), Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie), and the Clown Prince of Crime himself, The Joker (Leto) – though the latter wasn’t included on the titular team of anti-heroes. Now, amidst news of Warner Bros. launching a new banner in the studio to develop non-DCEU-related adaptations of DC Comics characters, it’s been confirmed that Leto will reprise his role as The Joker in two upcoming DCEU installments.

In Deadline’s report on the Joker origin story movie, the publication mentions Leto “will reprise in the Suicide Squad sequel and the Harley Quinn spinoff.” Currently, neither Suicide Squad 2 – which doesn’t have a director attached – nor Gotham City Sirenshave confirmed release dates in the DCEU, though Warner Bros. does have a pair staked out in 2020 for as yet unknown DC Comics movies.

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I think the DC is going to leave the cinematic universe alone and go back to self contained stories. This Joker news just put everything in perspective. No way you make a Joker solofilm without Batman involved. It doesn't make sense from a story perspective or box office perspective but if you don't have a long term Batman now it's starting to make sense. And then the Justice league news :sick: DC is trying to brace themselves for the backlash of Justice League. It's about to get bad
 
This is a really dumb move on WB/DC's part. First of all the Joker under no circumstances should have an origin story. That's part of his appeal, the idea of a origin story for joker makes no sense. Hell, Gotham has already done a pretty good job with the joker in his earlier stages. Even if Marty is producing, I still dont like the idea. Secondly the DCEU needs to be the primary focus for WB/DC. Branching off doing side stories just further causes more confusion. I hope they reconsider, because this movie will be DOA.
 
People are going to have to put some respeck on Aquaman's name.




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Matt Reeves on ‘The Batman’: “It’s a standalone, this isn’t part of the extended universe”
“When they approached me, what they said was: ‘look, it’s a standalone, this isn’t part of the extended universe,” Reeves said. He also confirmed that he has an idea for a trilogy in his head. Reeves said he’s “totally fine” not making a Batman movie if Warner Bros. doesn’t want to make the movie that he wants to make. So far, though, he said he and WB have been on the same page.
Reeves comments about The Batman not being part of an extended universe are interesting. Yesterday, we learned that Warner Bros. will be launching a new brand of DC Comics movies that will be separate from their current DC Extended Universe. Right now they’re working on a Joker movie that won’t star Jared Leto.

One last thing that I think is at least worth mentioning is this: The Hollywood Reporter’s Kim Masters interviewed Matt Reeves for this podcast on July 17th. On July 21st she published the article about Ben Affleck’s Batman future coming to end soon. Make of that what you will, but it’s certainly interesting timing.

http://batman-news.com/2017/08/23/matt-reeves-batman-standalone-not-extended-universe/

link includes the actual interview you can listen to as well
 
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