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Well actually I posted that rumor because it debunks the other rumor (that someone else posted) which was more negative so I am just continuing that discussion while also showing that rumors isn't always reliable. So I didn't really start that discussion.
 
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There it is. Bale's Batman is overrated. :hat

Next up, Iron Man 1 and Winter Soldier.

They filmed that movie in the summer, so kinda dumb to call it Winter Soldier. Such a Zack Snyder move. :{

And really, we can build a tin man in a cave that fly's and repells bullets? That's so DC......


Tune in next week on NT where we tell you how great the first Fantastic Four actually was!!!!!
 
Bale was aight as batman. He definitely had a really good look for being bruce wayne though. I like that he had his American Psycho haircut.
 
There it is. Bale's Batman is overrated. :hat
I said this after BB though.

It's common knowledge that Christain Bale was completely underused in Nolan's trilogy. The cancer voice really ruined it. They brought nothing to the Bruce Wayne character.

Lets not pretend Bale put on some acting clinic in any of the movies. The story of each movie drove everything. Not Bale as Batman. I've always found it pretty unfortunate they did nothing with such a talented actor in a role like that. It's like they played it safe in BB and then let Ledger run the show in TDK. TDKR doesn't really matter at that point. Quite frankly, I doubt you could come up with a stance for Bale being a great Batman let alone good without using **** performances in the past to prop up your argument. It's the same thing you do with MOS, it's better than Superman movies of the past to you so therefore it must be a great movie. I aint buying that faulty logic.

I feel like your problem here is you take things said by several ppl on here and you disagree with them and put them altogether like it means anything.

Then you try to pretend saying MOS wasn't good is the same as saying TDK wasn't good :lol I'll never fall for that bull ****. While you like to point out ppl **** on great movies and are more kinder to **** movies. I notice all the time these topics get brought up you try to pretend the bad movie was better than it was. No different than ppl trying to act like Snyder is a good director or Watchmen is a top 5 comic book movie. I'm not gullible like that.

I can compile far more outrageous comments than the stuff you're talking about spending one week in S&T or the music forum.
 
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Avengers was half of a good movie

Iron man 1 was maybe 1/3 of a good movie

Thor, Iron Man 2-3, First Avenger, Thor Dark World, Age of Ultron are all garbage tier

I don't even remember winter soldier

Guardians of the Galaxy is forgettable at best

Deadpool was ok

MoS was the best Dragonballz movie I've ever seen

Batman Begins should've been a prequel to Taken and focused on Liam Neesons more. Maybe then it wouldn't be so dull

TDK is god tier

TDKR was good until Nolan went full ******

I'm over this whole comic book movie thing
 
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Can't say that Metropolis battle wasn't god-tier though lol


**** was ripped straight from the battle between Superman and Darkseid in the last episode of JLU
 
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Well actually I posted that rumor because it debunks the other rumor (that someone else posted) which was more negative so I am just continuing that discussion while also showing that rumors isn't always reliable. So I didn't really start that discussion.
What other rumor?

The first thing I saw about it was a video with a guy and girl talking about the exact same things the rumor you posted just with more stuff.

What did it debunk exactly?

After watching the vid and reading what you posted. I still came away that the rumor is WB execs are worried about how BvS will be received by the audience and that if it doesn't do well Snyder is out. Only thing I saw added was it was about the movie being too deep :lol

But I dunno maybe the first rumor you're saying was debunked is different than the first one I watched. Okay though, you didn't start the discussion, just brought it back up/continued it.
 
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There it is. Bale's Batman is overrated. :hat
I said this after BB though.

It's common knowledge that Christain Bale was completely underused in Nolan's trilogy. The cancer voice really ruined it. They brought nothing to the Bruce Wayne character.

Lets not pretend Bale put on some acting clinic in any of the movies. The story of each movie drove everything. Not Bale as Batman. I've always found it pretty unfortunate they did nothing with such a talented actor in a role like that. It's like they played it safe in BB and then let Ledger run the show in TDK. TDKR doesn't really matter at that point. Quite frankly, I doubt you could come up with a stance for Bale being a great Batman let alone good without using **** performances in the past to prop up your argument. It's the same thing you do with MOS, it's better than Superman movies of the past to you so therefore it must be a great movie. I aint buying that faulty logic.

I feel like your problem here is you take things said by several ppl on here and you disagree with them and put them altogether like it means anything.

Then you try to pretend saying MOS wasn't good is the same as saying TDK wasn't good :lol I'll never fall for that bull ****. While you like to point out ppl **** on great movies and are more kinder to **** movies. I notice all the time these topics get brought up you try to pretend the bad movie was better than it was. No different than ppl trying to act like Snyder is a good director or Watchmen is a top 5 comic book movie. I'm not not gullible like that.

I can compile far more outrageous comments than the stuff you're talking about spending one week in S&T or the music forum.

No, I could make a case for Bale, but why should I? That trilogy is trash anyways.[emoji]169[/emoji][emoji]174[/emoji][emoji]8482[/emoji]

And I'M the one that props the **** movies? :lol :rollin

I propped Superman Returns, or Cap 1, or Thor 1, etc? 8o

Naw. I liked MOS plenty, for far more reasons than it was better than 78 or 81. Because it was a really good origin story of Superman. And hit all the marks I needed. I don't need the high and mighty counsil of NT to sway me cuz they need an ax to grind or it didn't touch their favorite comic book number.
 
Avengers was half of a good movie

Iron man 1 was maybe 1/3 of a good movie

Thor, Iron Man 2-3, First Avenger, Thor Dark World, Age of Ultron are all garbage tier

I don't even remember winter soldier

Guardians of the Galaxy is forgettable at best

Deadpool was ok

MoS was the best Dragonballz movie I've ever seen

Batman Begins should've been a prequel to Taken and focused on Liam Neesons more. Maybe then it wouldn't be so dull

TDK is god tier

TDKR was good until Nolan went full ******

I'm over this whole comic book movie thing
Hero movies probably aren't your thing.
 
Well actually I posted that rumor because it debunks the other rumor (that someone else posted) which was more negative so I am just continuing that discussion while also showing that rumors isn't always reliable. So I didn't really start that discussion.
What other rumor?

The first thing I saw about it was a video with a guy and girl talking about the exact same things the rumor you posted just with more stuff.

What did debunk exactly?

After watching the vid and reading what you posted. I still came away that the rumor is WB execs are worried about how BvS will be received by the audience and that if it doesn't do well Snyder is out. Only thing I saw added was it was about the movie being too deep :lol

But I dunno maybe the first rumor you're saying was debunked is different than the first one I watched. Okay though, you didn't start the discussion, just brought it back up/continued it.


First rumor was:


Saw this rumor on another site

http://m.hitfix.com/the-dartboard/b...d-dcs-entire-slate-be-in-jeopardy-fandemonium

From what I got from it

- The film isn't bad, just not what they wanted
- Affleck and Eisenberg were loved the rest, not so much
- Superman is still a mess
- rumor that they are rethinking the future of the cinematic universe
- suicide squad and Wonder Woman are still happening
- trying to get Affledk to do a solo batman movie and refocus the CU around him
- Snyder wouldn't direct the JL movie

All rumors though


The other rumor that somewhat debunks that the movie is bad and that Snyder is out, it clearly states its about the movie being too deep not that it isn't good:


"They’re more concerned about how the audience will respond to it, and how it will perform at the box office. BOF speculates that the mainstream audience is used to the “popcorn” movies that Marvel produces, and won’t respond well to Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice’s deep story that was written by an Oscar winner."


via Batman-News



No where in there does it say that Snyder will be out but if we are going to go farther into rumors, LatinoReview claims that JL film is definitely happening as planned (production/filming begins after the actors does their publicity tour) and that a solo Batman film isn't going to come take it's place and Snyder is still at the helm.


Again, I did not post that initial rumor...
 
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There it is. Bale's Batman is overrated. :hat
I said this after BB though.

It's common knowledge that Christain Bale was completely underused in Nolan's trilogy. The cancer voice really ruined it. They brought nothing to the Bruce Wayne character.

Lets not pretend Bale put on some acting clinic in any of the movies. The story of each movie drove everything. Not Bale as Batman. I've always found it pretty unfortunate they did nothing with such a talented actor in a role like that. It's like they played it safe in BB and then let Ledger run the show in TDK. TDKR doesn't really matter at that point. Quite frankly, I doubt you could come up with a stance for Bale being a great Batman let alone good without using **** performances in the past to prop up your argument. It's the same thing you do with MOS, it's better than Superman movies of the past to you so therefore it must be a great movie. I aint buying that faulty logic.

I feel like your problem here is you take things said by several ppl on here and you disagree with them and put them altogether like it means anything.

Then you try to pretend saying MOS wasn't good is the same as saying TDK wasn't good :lol I'll never fall for that bull ****. While you like to point out ppl **** on great movies and are more kinder to **** movies. I notice all the time these topics get brought up you try to pretend the bad movie was better than it was. No different than ppl trying to act like Snyder is a good director or Watchmen is a top 5 comic book movie. I'm not not gullible like that.

I can compile far more outrageous comments than the stuff you're talking about spending one week in S&T or the music forum.

No, I could make a case for Bale
Stop lying.

Half of it would involve you bashing Clooney, Kilmer, and Keaton before you said anything about what Bale did better :lol

There's nothing about the Nolan trilogy where you leave it saying damn Bale was amazing. Cuz he wasn't in any of them. It was a pretty vapid and bland Bruce Wayne and a by the #s Batman.

You let mediocre past performances affect your standard so it ends up being this performance was good for this franchise/studio. Not this performance was good compared to other good performances. So far nothing you've said has shown me that's not the trend.

And I'M the one that props the **** movies? :lol :rollin
MOS. Every time. Your argument is basically it was better than the other Superman movies so it can't be bad :lol

Trying to put MOS in the same group as IM1, TDK, TWS, etc. Eventually yall gonna be trying to slip Avatar and TMNT in there too.
I propped Superman Returns, or Cap 1, or Thor 1, etc? 8o
You brought up those **** movies. Why should I bother with those when I'm talking MOS?

Naw. I liked MOS plenty, for far more reasons than it was better than 78 or 81. Because it was a really good origin story of Superman. And hit all the marks I needed. I don't need the high and mighty counsil of NT to sway me cuz they need an ax to grind or it didn't touch their favorite comic book number.
I wouldn't call it a council. Some ppl feel differently. You basically nitpick at that while ironically pointing out how some ppl nitpick at other things. Nobody is trying to sway you on MOS. We all know you like it but you have trouble when other ppl don't have the same reaction as you when it's brought up. Then instead of actual discussion you just go to the past petty things several ppl brought up like Clark Kent and his glasses and bring that up to mock ppl. No real discussion or exchange of differing opinions.

The cycle is sick.
 
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You know. The Superman fight in MoS do remind me of DragonBall Z

Sigh

I would love a dbz live action movie done right. =/

I would love Snyder doing just the fights and leaving the rest to someone more competent lol
 
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Well actually I posted that rumor because it debunks the other rumor (that someone else posted) which was more negative so I am just continuing that discussion while also showing that rumors isn't always reliable. So I didn't really start that discussion.
What other rumor?

The first thing I saw about it was a video with a guy and girl talking about the exact same things the rumor you posted just with more stuff.

What did debunk exactly?

After watching the vid and reading what you posted. I still came away that the rumor is WB execs are worried about how BvS will be received by the audience and that if it doesn't do well Snyder is out. Only thing I saw added was it was about the movie being too deep :lol

But I dunno maybe the first rumor you're saying was debunked is different than the first one I watched. Okay though, you didn't start the discussion, just brought it back up/continued it.


First rumor was:


Saw this rumor on another site

http://m.hitfix.com/the-dartboard/b...d-dcs-entire-slate-be-in-jeopardy-fandemonium

From what I got from it

- The film isn't bad, just not what they wanted
- Affleck and Eisenberg were loved the rest, not so much
- Superman is still a mess
- rumor that they are rethinking the future of the cinematic universe
- suicide squad and Wonder Woman are still happening
- trying to get Affledk to do a solo batman movie and refocus the CU around him
- Snyder wouldn't direct the JL movie

All rumors though


The other rumor that somewhat debunks that the movie is bad and that Snyder is out, it clearly states its about the movie being too deep not that it isn't good:


"They’re more concerned about how the audience will respond to it, and how it will perform at the box office. BOF speculates that the mainstream audience is used to the “popcorn” movies that Marvel produces, and won’t respond well to Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice’s deep story that was written by an Oscar winner."


via Batman-News
From what I read and saw in the hitflix link, blakep even cliff notes it, is that the movie isn't bad just not what they wanted. If you watch the vid they say the same.

So there's no debunking that the movie is bad imo cuz the first rumor never said the movie was bad.

What you posted just went deeper in to what those ppl were talking about in the vid with details for why those ppl feel the way they feel.

It's why when I saw the first rumor I asked about that rumor from last year about all the execs watching the movie and loving it. Then the rumor you posted pretty much answered that.

No where in there does it say that Snyder will be out but if we are going to go farther into rumors, LatinoReview claims that JL film is definitely happening as planned (production/filming begins after the actors does their publicity tour) and that a solo Batman film isn't going to come take it's place and Snyder is still at the helm.
Just cuz the rumor you posted doesn't say "Snyder is out" how does that turn in to it debunking it? But hey you're saying somewhat debunking now. Nothing in the rumor you posted says Snyder is directing JL. It's pretty clear all of that is dependent on how the movie does if the rumors are true at all.

I really don't see how the two rumors contradict or how the one you posted debunks the other one. "Not what they wanted" and "it's too deep, audiences might not like it cuz of Marvel movies" seem to jive to me.

The cliffs and the vid say they doubt that Snyder will direct JL not that JL won't happen. That's why I said if these rumors are true, it's cuz WB has had this movie for too long and are not being over critical. Saying the movie is too deep and that's why the audience may not like it cuz they're use to Marvel movies is bull ****. It's a movie with Batman and Superman. Batman most importantly. If it doesn't do well it's cuz the movie wasn't that good.

So other than breaking it down I don't really see what's different. Just more stuff added to what's basically the same rumor.
 
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There it is. Bale's Batman is overrated. :hat
I said this after BB though.

It's common knowledge that Christain Bale was completely underused in Nolan's trilogy. The cancer voice really ruined it. They brought nothing to the Bruce Wayne character.

Lets not pretend Bale put on some acting clinic in any of the movies. The story of each movie drove everything. Not Bale as Batman. I've always found it pretty unfortunate they did nothing with such a talented actor in a role like that. It's like they played it safe in BB and then let Ledger run the show in TDK. TDKR doesn't really matter at that point. Quite frankly, I doubt you could come up with a stance for Bale being a great Batman let alone good without using **** performances in the past to prop up your argument. It's the same thing you do with MOS, it's better than Superman movies of the past to you so therefore it must be a great movie. I aint buying that faulty logic.

I feel like your problem here is you take things said by several ppl on here and you disagree with them and put them altogether like it means anything.

Then you try to pretend saying MOS wasn't good is the same as saying TDK wasn't good :lol I'll never fall for that bull ****. While you like to point out ppl **** on great movies and are more kinder to **** movies. I notice all the time these topics get brought up you try to pretend the bad movie was better than it was. No different than ppl trying to act like Snyder is a good director or Watchmen is a top 5 comic book movie. I'm not not gullible like that.

I can compile far more outrageous comments than the stuff you're talking about spending one week in S&T or the music forum.

No, I could make a case for Bale
Stop lying.

Half of it would involve you bashing Clooney, Kilmer, and Keaton before you said anything about what Bale did better :lol

There's nothing about the Nolan trilogy where you leave it saying damn Bale was amazing. Cuz he wasn't in any of them. It was a pretty vapid and bland Bruce Wayne and a by the #s Batman.

You let mediocre past performances affect your standard so it ends up being this performance was good for this franchise/studio. Not this performance was good compared to other good performances. So far nothing you've said has shown me that's not the trend.

And I'M the one that props the **** movies? :lol :rollin
MOS. Every time. Your argument is basically it was better than the other Superman movies so it can't be bad :lol
I propped Superman Returns, or Cap 1, or Thor 1, etc? 8o
You brought up those **** movies. Why should I bother with those when I'm talking MOS?

Naw. I liked MOS plenty, for far more reasons than it was better than 78 or 81. Because it was a really good origin story of Superman. And hit all the marks I needed. I don't need the high and mighty counsil of NT to sway me cuz they need an ax to grind or it didn't touch their favorite comic book number.
I wouldn't call it a council. Some ppl feel differently. You basically nitpick at that while ironically pointing out how some ppl nitpick at other things. Nobody is trying to sway you on MOS. We all know you like it but you have trouble when other ppl don't have the same reaction as you when it's brought up. Then instead of actual discussion you just go to the past petty things several ppl brought up like Clark Kent and his glasses and bring that up to mock ppl. No real discussion or exchange of differing opinions.

The cycle is sick.

Discussion? You just told me how I would review a film, or performance.

Read that ******* sentence again.

Discussion? :lol

You truly don't even know what it is you're arguing, you just think you do.

I use MOS and 78-81 as examples from prior discussions.

Do you have any other reviews where I say film X is better because it's just the newest version? No? Oh.

But I'm gonna do that with Bale/Kilmer/Clooney cuz of one movie that I used prior examples.

K.

Thank you for telling me how I would write my own review on somethin. I'll let you get back to spinnin out of the argument you got with RFX now so you can finish prejudging a film you won't see for 6 weeks. I'ma start working on my Avengers 3 review for 2018, wanna make sure I get everything down ahead of time. :hat
 
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It's perfectly normal for people to have expectations going into a movie, bad or good.

Never understood why people go into movies looking for reasons to hate it though. I guess it's just to be different?
 
It's perfectly normal for people to have expectations going into a movie, bad or good.

Never understood why people go into movies looking for reasons to hate it though. I guess it's just to be different?

Absolutely agree.

Agendas.
 
Zik isn't the one that said the prequels "weren't that bad" is he? He just doesn't blame Lucas for it, right?

Right? 8o
 
Man... Snyder should do a DBZ movie. I'd pay for that as long as he uses the right color palette.

BvS is going to be good. We'll be okay guys.


Someone said they'd watch Batman and Robin over Iron Man 3?!? Nah.

Couldn't pay me to go thru this again.


 
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