Did Jay Cutler quit on his team??? vol. NFL Players Think So

[duba169]

Originally Posted by wawaweewa

Originally Posted by DubA169

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Originally Posted by Elpablo21

Originally Posted by DubA169

players are payed to play. not worry about the rest of their career. he may never get this close to a super bowl again. nothing is guaranteed in football.

i guess Willis Reed and curt shilling should have sat out. just worry about the rest of their careers.

Come on G...I'm not even a fan of Cutler..but did you really try to compare those injuries to a possible torn ligament in the knee?

It's hard to make talk straight when your busy with LeBron's balls in your mouth

how's it feel to have my balls in your mouth?

" NFL players talk about playing hurt as if it's some great attribute. It's not. It's stupidity."

"So deciding to potentially further the damage done and possibly end your career is a good idea?"


great quotes. a bunch of pansies here. same dudes defending chris bosh's gay comments about hustling. i'm sure he would have ended his career by cheering for his teammates and not looking like a girl pouting on the sidelines. like there aren't dozens of players who play through worse stuff through a season.

so worrying about your career matters more than playing an important game?

If I didn't know any better I'd think that you were an owner with a  vested interest.

You're the type of folks that the owners love. Taking this game seriously while working a 30k job and abhorring your own life while they rake in real money. 

I wouldn't give a +@%! if the man flat out quit. Who gives a @$%@? He's being paid millions to play  a game. More props to him, no matter what. 

This isn't Patton quitting on the 7th Army during WW2. It ain't that serious homie. 

Get a life. Lets see you get worked up about things that actually matter. Put all that energy into something productive. 

what are you TALKING about

i couldn't care less about who won. stop making him into a martyr.


"I wouldn't give a +@%! if the man flat out quit. Who gives a @$%@? He'sbeing paid millions to play  a game. More props to him, no matter what." he gets his money.... and? good for him. congrats on his success

you're the type of dope that thinks making money means nobody should ever criticize you.

 

[duba169]

Originally Posted by wawaweewa

Originally Posted by DubA169

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Originally Posted by Elpablo21

Originally Posted by DubA169

players are payed to play. not worry about the rest of their career. he may never get this close to a super bowl again. nothing is guaranteed in football.

i guess Willis Reed and curt shilling should have sat out. just worry about the rest of their careers.

Come on G...I'm not even a fan of Cutler..but did you really try to compare those injuries to a possible torn ligament in the knee?

It's hard to make talk straight when your busy with LeBron's balls in your mouth

how's it feel to have my balls in your mouth?

" NFL players talk about playing hurt as if it's some great attribute. It's not. It's stupidity."

"So deciding to potentially further the damage done and possibly end your career is a good idea?"


great quotes. a bunch of pansies here. same dudes defending chris bosh's gay comments about hustling. i'm sure he would have ended his career by cheering for his teammates and not looking like a girl pouting on the sidelines. like there aren't dozens of players who play through worse stuff through a season.

so worrying about your career matters more than playing an important game?

If I didn't know any better I'd think that you were an owner with a  vested interest.

You're the type of folks that the owners love. Taking this game seriously while working a 30k job and abhorring your own life while they rake in real money. 

I wouldn't give a +@%! if the man flat out quit. Who gives a @$%@? He's being paid millions to play  a game. More props to him, no matter what. 

This isn't Patton quitting on the 7th Army during WW2. It ain't that serious homie. 

Get a life. Lets see you get worked up about things that actually matter. Put all that energy into something productive. 

what are you TALKING about

i couldn't care less about who won. stop making him into a martyr.


"I wouldn't give a +@%! if the man flat out quit. Who gives a @$%@? He'sbeing paid millions to play  a game. More props to him, no matter what." he gets his money.... and? good for him. congrats on his success

you're the type of dope that thinks making money means nobody should ever criticize you.

 

[you go boy]

ya he should have played injured just so he can mess up his leg even more werd to grant hill 

 

[you go boy]

ya he should have played injured just so he can mess up his leg even more werd to grant hill 

 

[duba169]

trying to play with an injury to his leg is now life or death? wow. okay then.

 

[wawaweewa]

DubA169 wrote:

what are you TALKING about

i couldn't care less about who won. stop making him into a martyr.


"I wouldn't give a +@%! if the man flat out quit. Who gives a @$%@? He'sbeing paid millions to play  a game. More props to him, no matter what." he gets his money.... and? good for him. congrats on his success

you're the type of dope that thinks making money means nobody should ever criticize you.

Again, why are you so vested in this? 

The point is you're in no place to criticize in this case. That's a fact. Furthermore, assuming that you were, your criticism is asinine. 

Like I said before. Don't take it that serious. It's just a game. 

Just because your life revolves around men playing kids games doesn't mean it's really important. Relax. 

 

[duba169]

trying to play with an injury to his leg is now life or death? wow. okay then.

 

[wawaweewa]

DubA169 wrote:

what are you TALKING about

i couldn't care less about who won. stop making him into a martyr.


"I wouldn't give a +@%! if the man flat out quit. Who gives a @$%@? He'sbeing paid millions to play  a game. More props to him, no matter what." he gets his money.... and? good for him. congrats on his success

you're the type of dope that thinks making money means nobody should ever criticize you.

Again, why are you so vested in this? 

The point is you're in no place to criticize in this case. That's a fact. Furthermore, assuming that you were, your criticism is asinine. 

Like I said before. Don't take it that serious. It's just a game. 

Just because your life revolves around men playing kids games doesn't mean it's really important. Relax. 

 

[arstyle27]

Before you join the inane antisocial media movement questioning Jay Cutler's toughness via Twitter, Facebook or your unfriendly neighborhood blogger, pause before you hit "Enter."

Before you unfairly label the injured Bears quarterback "Jay Quitler,'' or put that No. 6 jersey in the Goodwill pile for reasons you can't possibly understand, take a deep breath.

Before you question Cutler's heart, find out more about the injured left knee that sidelined him for most of the second half of Sunday's 21-14 NFC Championship game loss to the Packers.

"No player decision,'' Lovie Smith said of sitting Cutler. "For us, Jay hurt his knee, he couldn't go. He was injured.''

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Nobody denies Cutler has earned the criticism heaped on him for immaturity off the field and inconsistency on it. But Cutler doesn't deserve America rushing to judge him a quitter after he left the game for good early in the third quarter.

Cutler wearing a parka against the Packers wasn't Cedric Benson sitting out the second half of Super Bowl XLI with a knee injury several teammates privately questioned. This is a quarterback who endured 57 sacks this season, a guy Bears fans worried was too tough for his own good one week earlier when he scored two rushing TDs against the Seahawks. This is a guy who plays pro football despite being afflicted with Type 1 diabetes.

Suddenly he's a wimp?

Sorry, this was simple irony: The healthiest team in the NFL losing its most important game ever at home due to an injury to its most important player. Cutler is many things. He is not soft.

I rarely agree with Olin Kreutz on anything other than what day it is. But Kreutz provided the perfect response to anybody suggesting otherwise — especially his NFL peers who ripped Cutler on the Internet.

"(Expletive) them, it's (expletive) stupid,'' Kreutz snapped. "I could see (his knee) wiggling when he was walking back in the huddle (late in the second quarter).''

On the second-to-the-last series before the half, Cutler felt a hit on the outside of his left knee. He finished the next two series but limped into the locker room with 32 seconds left. He was re-taped, rode the exercise bike to get a truer gauge and returned to play the first series of the third quarter.

"I was going to keep playing,'' Cutler said. "They made the decision (that) to give Todd (Collins) a shot would better suit the team.''

Cutler tried lobbying the Bears medical team. Asked if the knee lacked stability or mobility, Cutler answered, "Both.'' The pocket is no place for a quarterback that limited, especially against a Packers defense that aggressive.

"I knew it was probably better that I didn't (play),'' Cutler acknowledged. "I know my knee. I know my body.''

The mistake the Bears organization made was allowing any ambiguity about the injury and Cutler's status. The team made no announcement that Cutler officially was "out'' and the lack of specificity over the injury allowed hasty speculation to mount. Not that any of Cutler's teammates doubted him.

The only question Brian Urlacher had for Cutler was when he went over to ask if he would be ready for the Super Bowl.

"Jay was hurt," Urlacher said. "I don't question his toughness. He's tough as hell."

When they pull the account of this historic game out of the time capsule, this won't be the game Cutler quit on the Bears. It will be the game the 2010 Bears finally ran out of luck and Smith coached his way into the offseason.

Why was Collins ahead of "emergency quarterback" Caleb Hanie on the depth chart anyway? Collins shouldn't have been on the roster, let alone in a game to decide the Super Bowl. He only took six snaps but all were wasted as Hanie watched. Sure, Hanie threw an interception B.J. Raji returned for the decisive score, but he gave the Bears offense life. Collins gave it cyanide.

The decision to insert Hanie with 57 seconds left in the third quarter potentially made the bad decision to go with Collins worse. Per NFL rules, it meant that if Hanie had gotten hurt in the fourth quarter, the Bears would have been forced to finish the game with Matt Forte or Earl Bennett at quarterback. Ugh.

If Smith signs a contract extension soon, as expected, it will be because the front office chose to ignore his coaching effort against the Packers. Why did Smith punt instead of let Robbie Gould try a 49-yard field-goal attempt down 14-0 in the second quarter? Why run Bennett around left end — a wide receiver who isn't Devin Hester — on third-and-3 with 1:15 left on the potential game-tying drive? Why not use the final timeout to call a smarter play on fourth down?

On the way out of the Bears locker room, a dejected Mike Martz stopped long enough to tell a reporter, "I'm sorry.''

Indeed the Bears as a team had much to apologize for after getting outcoached and outplayed by their rivals with the Super Bowl on the line. But Cutler as a competitor clearly didn't.

 

[arstyle27]

Before you join the inane antisocial media movement questioning Jay Cutler's toughness via Twitter, Facebook or your unfriendly neighborhood blogger, pause before you hit "Enter."

Before you unfairly label the injured Bears quarterback "Jay Quitler,'' or put that No. 6 jersey in the Goodwill pile for reasons you can't possibly understand, take a deep breath.

Before you question Cutler's heart, find out more about the injured left knee that sidelined him for most of the second half of Sunday's 21-14 NFC Championship game loss to the Packers.

"No player decision,'' Lovie Smith said of sitting Cutler. "For us, Jay hurt his knee, he couldn't go. He was injured.''

---

---

Nobody denies Cutler has earned the criticism heaped on him for immaturity off the field and inconsistency on it. But Cutler doesn't deserve America rushing to judge him a quitter after he left the game for good early in the third quarter.

Cutler wearing a parka against the Packers wasn't Cedric Benson sitting out the second half of Super Bowl XLI with a knee injury several teammates privately questioned. This is a quarterback who endured 57 sacks this season, a guy Bears fans worried was too tough for his own good one week earlier when he scored two rushing TDs against the Seahawks. This is a guy who plays pro football despite being afflicted with Type 1 diabetes.

Suddenly he's a wimp?

Sorry, this was simple irony: The healthiest team in the NFL losing its most important game ever at home due to an injury to its most important player. Cutler is many things. He is not soft.

I rarely agree with Olin Kreutz on anything other than what day it is. But Kreutz provided the perfect response to anybody suggesting otherwise — especially his NFL peers who ripped Cutler on the Internet.

"(Expletive) them, it's (expletive) stupid,'' Kreutz snapped. "I could see (his knee) wiggling when he was walking back in the huddle (late in the second quarter).''

On the second-to-the-last series before the half, Cutler felt a hit on the outside of his left knee. He finished the next two series but limped into the locker room with 32 seconds left. He was re-taped, rode the exercise bike to get a truer gauge and returned to play the first series of the third quarter.

"I was going to keep playing,'' Cutler said. "They made the decision (that) to give Todd (Collins) a shot would better suit the team.''

Cutler tried lobbying the Bears medical team. Asked if the knee lacked stability or mobility, Cutler answered, "Both.'' The pocket is no place for a quarterback that limited, especially against a Packers defense that aggressive.

"I knew it was probably better that I didn't (play),'' Cutler acknowledged. "I know my knee. I know my body.''

The mistake the Bears organization made was allowing any ambiguity about the injury and Cutler's status. The team made no announcement that Cutler officially was "out'' and the lack of specificity over the injury allowed hasty speculation to mount. Not that any of Cutler's teammates doubted him.

The only question Brian Urlacher had for Cutler was when he went over to ask if he would be ready for the Super Bowl.

"Jay was hurt," Urlacher said. "I don't question his toughness. He's tough as hell."

When they pull the account of this historic game out of the time capsule, this won't be the game Cutler quit on the Bears. It will be the game the 2010 Bears finally ran out of luck and Smith coached his way into the offseason.

Why was Collins ahead of "emergency quarterback" Caleb Hanie on the depth chart anyway? Collins shouldn't have been on the roster, let alone in a game to decide the Super Bowl. He only took six snaps but all were wasted as Hanie watched. Sure, Hanie threw an interception B.J. Raji returned for the decisive score, but he gave the Bears offense life. Collins gave it cyanide.

The decision to insert Hanie with 57 seconds left in the third quarter potentially made the bad decision to go with Collins worse. Per NFL rules, it meant that if Hanie had gotten hurt in the fourth quarter, the Bears would have been forced to finish the game with Matt Forte or Earl Bennett at quarterback. Ugh.

If Smith signs a contract extension soon, as expected, it will be because the front office chose to ignore his coaching effort against the Packers. Why did Smith punt instead of let Robbie Gould try a 49-yard field-goal attempt down 14-0 in the second quarter? Why run Bennett around left end — a wide receiver who isn't Devin Hester — on third-and-3 with 1:15 left on the potential game-tying drive? Why not use the final timeout to call a smarter play on fourth down?

On the way out of the Bears locker room, a dejected Mike Martz stopped long enough to tell a reporter, "I'm sorry.''

Indeed the Bears as a team had much to apologize for after getting outcoached and outplayed by their rivals with the Super Bowl on the line. But Cutler as a competitor clearly didn't.

 

[duba169]

you're right i'm in no place to criticize him. but his peers are. and that's what all the quotes are on the first page.

 

[duba169]

you're right i'm in no place to criticize him. but his peers are. and that's what all the quotes are on the first page.

 

[sickickz23]

^ again, u don't know how the NFL works. Once the medical staff tells the coach he's not cleared, then he can't play. It wasn't Jay's decision. It was the doctors and trainers. If anything, blame them. NFL rules state that once a player isn't cleared from an injury, he has to be taken out and cannot come back in the game. Maybe in the NBA and MLB, the rules are different. But not the NFL.

 

[illmatic34]

Originally Posted by DubA169

trying to play with an injury to his leg is now life or death? wow. okay then.

Yes, doctor. 

You're acting like this is nothing...if the reports are true of a ligament tear then what will you say?

 

[illmatic34]

Originally Posted by DubA169

trying to play with an injury to his leg is now life or death? wow. okay then.

Yes, doctor. 

You're acting like this is nothing...if the reports are true of a ligament tear then what will you say?

 

[sickickz23]

^ again, u don't know how the NFL works. Once the medical staff tells the coach he's not cleared, then he can't play. It wasn't Jay's decision. It was the doctors and trainers. If anything, blame them. NFL rules state that once a player isn't cleared from an injury, he has to be taken out and cannot come back in the game. Maybe in the NBA and MLB, the rules are different. But not the NFL.

 

[wawaweewa]

Originally Posted by DubA169

you're right i'm in no place to criticize him. but his peers are. and that's what all the quotes are on the first page.

Lots of dummies amongst NFL players. See the face that many were so aghast when the NFL started cracking down on helmet to helmet hits. Would be akin to soldiers protesting the mandate that they wear a bulletproof vest. 

 Don't put too much stock in it. 

 

[wawaweewa]

Originally Posted by DubA169

you're right i'm in no place to criticize him. but his peers are. and that's what all the quotes are on the first page.

Lots of dummies amongst NFL players. See the face that many were so aghast when the NFL started cracking down on helmet to helmet hits. Would be akin to soldiers protesting the mandate that they wear a bulletproof vest. 

 Don't put too much stock in it. 

 

[duba169]

"They made the decision (that) to give Todd (Collins) a shot would better suit the team.''


there you go. it had nothing to do with cutler wondering the pros and cons of playing with an injury. nothing to do with cutler consciously making a decision not to play so he wouldn't ruin his career.

he couldn't play. that's fine. i still think his demeanor was terrible but fine.

 

[duba169]

"They made the decision (that) to give Todd (Collins) a shot would better suit the team.''


there you go. it had nothing to do with cutler wondering the pros and cons of playing with an injury. nothing to do with cutler consciously making a decision not to play so he wouldn't ruin his career.

he couldn't play. that's fine. i still think his demeanor was terrible but fine.

 

[wawaweewa]

Originally Posted by DubA169

"They made the decision (that) to give Todd (Collins) a shot would better suit the team.''


there you go. it had nothing to do with cutler wondering the pros and cons of playing with an injury. nothing to do with cutler consciously making a decision not to play so he wouldn't ruin his career.

he couldn't play. that's fine. i still think his demeanor was terrible but fine.

Now we're unto demeanor. 

What next? Taht he doesn't do this after every bears touchdown?

 

[wawaweewa]

Originally Posted by DubA169

"They made the decision (that) to give Todd (Collins) a shot would better suit the team.''


there you go. it had nothing to do with cutler wondering the pros and cons of playing with an injury. nothing to do with cutler consciously making a decision not to play so he wouldn't ruin his career.

he couldn't play. that's fine. i still think his demeanor was terrible but fine.

Now we're unto demeanor. 

What next? Taht he doesn't do this after every bears touchdown?

 

[illmatic34]

Criticizing Cutler with his attitude I don't have a problem with, but his toughness? He's tough as nails. He doesn't deserve the backlash he's getting right now for "quitting".


That's all I gotta say about that.

 

[illmatic34]

Criticizing Cutler with his attitude I don't have a problem with, but his toughness? He's tough as nails. He doesn't deserve the backlash he's getting right now for "quitting".


That's all I gotta say about that.

 

[duba169]

Originally Posted by illmatic34

Originally Posted by DubA169

trying to play with an injury to his leg is now life or death? wow. okay then.

Yes, doctor. 

You're acting like this is nothing...if the reports are true of a ligament tear then what will you say?

if the team wouldn't let him play. i'm fine with that. can't hold it against him then. i have to be a doctor to understand that him hurting his leg isn't a life or death situation?  it's not a head injury or internal bleeding

people saying he shouldn't play because he might ruin his career is ridiculous. he wasn't allowed back in then i have no problem besides his demeanor and body language on the sidelines after he was taken out