Does NT Have a Race Problem?

[tay1]

You can’t talk to black people about the definition of racism without including and discussing the institutional aspect. Racism to others mean name calling and other BS

 

[cedric ceballos]

This is the type of uplifting post NT needs right now. Libs are on the run with how much rear end the economy is kicking so they can't hang with Da Squad. #4COALSMEN

Their little anti American “squad” of cortez, pressey, talib and Omar is no match for silk and diamond.

2 on 4 means nothing when you have God, the economy and the American people on your side.

 

[danikerhino]

I wish all my ancestors had to deal with was a few insults and a little mistreatment.

If the term "racist" is all encompassing then what are we calling the people who enslaved other people and created racist laws and implemented racist policies?

I understand that. I'm not as empathetic if a white dude gets clowned because his people enslaved my relatives and mistreated them for half a millennia. Yet, me clowning an Muslim guy for wearing a head over, laughing at a native American if I litter to see if he'd pick it up, or laugh at an Asian guy if he's a teachers pet is being Racist. People clown on Jews all the time about the Holocaust and I view that as some evil ****. There's racist **** in all walks of life man, whether it has something to do with us or not.

 

[danikerhino]

Libs are the worst.

Nah I think the right is the worst because they're people of privilege/power and have been molding this country based on what they want since the founding of this nation.

 

[Present]

Present, what year did websters change the definition of racism? 20 years ago they listed a different definition, The definition used to chime with power, and legal means to oppress.

Definition of racism

1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2a: a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b: a political or social system founded on racism


The History and Dictionary Meaning of Racism

Racism appears to be a word of recent origin, with no citations currently known that would suggest the word was in use prior to the early 20th century. But the fact that the word is fairly new does not prove that the concept of racism did not exist in the distant past. Things may have words to describe them before they exist (spaceship, for instance, has been in use since the 19th century, well before the rocket-fired vessels were invented), and things may exist for a considerable time before they are given names (t-shirt does not appear in print until the 20th century, although the article of clothing existed prior to 1900).

Under the definition for racism (and only for racism) is the following verbiage - looks like the makers of the Merriam Webster's dictionary already got a head up on the "what does the dictionary say racism is" folks...highlighted for effect.

"Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals. When discussing concepts like racism, therefore, it is prudent to recognize that quoting from a dictionary is unlikely to either mollify or persuade the person with whom one is arguing."

Definition of RACISM

a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race; also : behavior or attitudes that reflect and foster this belief : racial discrimination or prejudice… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[KHUFU]

Yes they can, if a woman makes some inappropriate remarks about a guy to another woman that pertains to a misrepresentation of what he is, that can considered to be sexist. Racism is an discriminatory act towards another individual or people based on their ethnicity, which can be carried out by anyone towards anybody else.

You are wrong. A woman cannot create laws to prevent men from taking viagra, telling him that he does not have a right to control his own penis, not being able to have sex, nor get anyone pregnant. Racism and sexism are ACTIONS that are carried out by those of privilege. If women can be sexist they why do we have all religions that are geared toward men? Even the biblical texts that many of you read, teaches you to discriminate against women. Think critically.

 

[SpittaJetLife]

Definition of racism

1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2a: a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
b: a political or social system founded on racism


The History and Dictionary Meaning of Racism

Racism appears to be a word of recent origin, with no citations currently known that would suggest the word was in use prior to the early 20th century. But the fact that the word is fairly new does not prove that the concept of racism did not exist in the distant past. Things may have words to describe them before they exist (spaceship, for instance, has been in use since the 19th century, well before the rocket-fired vessels were invented), and things may exist for a considerable time before they are given names (t-shirt does not appear in print until the 20th century, although the article of clothing existed prior to 1900).

Under the definition for racism (and only for racism) is the following verbiage - looks like the makers of the Merriam Webster's dictionary already got a head up on the "what does the dictionary say racism is" folks...highlighted for effect.

"Dictionaries are often treated as the final arbiter in arguments over a word’s meaning, but they are not always well suited for settling disputes. The lexicographer’s role is to explain how words are (or have been) actually used, not how some may feel that they should be used, and they say nothing about the intrinsic nature of the thing named by a word, much less the significance it may have for individuals. When discussing concepts like racism, therefore, it is prudent to recognize that quoting from a dictionary is unlikely to either mollify or persuade the person with whom one is arguing."

Definition of RACISM

a belief that race is a fundamental determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race; also : behavior or attitudes that reflect and foster this belief : racial discrimination or prejudice… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Black people cant use laws, systems, policies, and institutions to act out on their prejudices/ racist beliefs like white people can.

 

[Present]

I understand that. I'm not as empathetic if a white dude gets clowned because his people enslaved my relatives and mistreated them for half a millennia. Yet, me clowning an Muslim guy for wearing a head over, laughing at a native American if I litter to see if he'd pick it up, or laugh at an Asian guy if he's a teachers pet is being Racist. People clown on Jews all the time about the Holocaust and I view that as some evil ****. There's racist **** in all walks of life man, whether it has something to do with us or not.

Moving the goalposts on what racism is aint the move.

That's a VERY dangerous and dishonest game to play IMO.

Not only is it factually and historically incorrect but inexcusable in the age of the internet.

If everyone is racist then no one is racist.

 

[KHUFU]

Moving the goalposts on what racism is aint the move.

That's a VERY dangerous and dishonest game to play IMO.

Not only is it factually and historically incorrect but inexcusable in the age of the internet.

If everyone is racist then no one is racist.

The way they use the term racism, is only fodder to try and infuriate the mods, in orderto justify their own racist beliefs.

 

[danikerhino]

You are wrong. A woman cannot create laws to prevent men from taking viagra, telling him that he does not have a right to control his own penis, not being able to have sex, nor get anyone pregnant. Racism and sexism are ACTIONS that are carried out by those of privilege. If women can be sexist they why do we have all religions that are geared toward men? Even the biblical texts that many of you read, teaches you to discriminate against women. Think critically.

You're thinking in a broad sense. I'm speaking on everyday situations. Let me give you an example. Let's say I'm walking behind two women in the street minding my own business. After a while, one of them tells the other that I might be following than the other woman swings her purse at me just because they assumed I was after them. Who is in the wrong, them or me?

 

[danikerhino]

Moving the goalposts on what racism is aint the move.

That's a VERY dangerous and dishonest game to play IMO.

Not only is it factually and historically incorrect but inexcusable in the age of the internet.

If everyone is racist then no one is racist.

Stereotyping is a form of racist. If I go into a store with a hoodie and the guard follows me because he thinks I'm up to something, Racism=Stereotyping. If someone wrongfully discriminates someone based on their color, background, Creed, religion= RACISM. Simple as that. All of that **** is wrong.

 

[nawghtyhare]

Stereotyping is a form of racist. If I go into a store with a hoodie and the guard follows me because he thinks I'm up to something, Racism=Stereotyping.

lets fix it a lil
if u go into a store
with a hoody
and they follow u cause ur black
u are correct
but if they follow everyone who wears a hoody
in the store
because they deem hoodies suspicious
thats different

 

[Nereyda Vuelve Por Dios]

Black people cant use laws, systems, policies, and institutions to act out on their prejudices/ racist beliefs like white people can.

Ding ****in ding. The spirit of the word shines bright in every institution in this country. Its found in every interaction btw the majority and the minority.
Dont see any progress in site by the way.

 

[danikerhino]

Other than Native Americans, blacks have gone through the most Racism and discrimination in this country and still face policies and a system that doesn't favor us. Yet, discriminating other ethnicities just because you're black shouldn't be excused and is still a smaller form of racism. Though not as nearly as wide encompassing as institutionalized Racism, it's still wrong and shouldn't be ignored nor encouraged. That's all I gotta say.

 

[danikerhino]

lets fix it a lil
if u go into a store
with a hoody
and they follow u cause ur black
u are correct
but if they follow everyone who wears a hoody
in the store
because they deem hoodies suspicious
thats different

Well if your Hispanic wearing a hoodie, you can be stereotyped for doing the same thing. The point is stereotyping is a form of racism. If you have a preconceived notion on a person or group without knowing them, it's a form of racism.

 

[nawghtyhare]

Well if your Hispanic wearing a hoodie, you can be stereotyped for doing the same thing. The point is stereotyping is a form of racism. If you have a preconceived notion on a person or group without knowing them, it's a form of racism.

see but u cant let that be the end all be all
if me a black dude owns a liquor store
i dont care if u black
white
hispanic
asian
or tongan
u come in my store
with a all black hoody on
im following u

 

[kingjay718]

I remember when black folks were the minority on nt
And the nters of asian descent
Would say slick stuff ALL THE TIME
and the mods who we know are of asian descent
And some white mods
Wouldn’t even do anything about it
Or had those same views

this.

And often times when black and brown folks would do the same, they would either have their list deleted, warned, and/banned.

 

[danikerhino]

see but u cant let that be the end all be all
if me a black dude owns a liquor store
i dont care if u black
white
hispanic
asian
or tongan
u come in my store
with a all black hoody on
im following u

My point was Stereotyping is Racism and Hispanic people do get wrongfully targeted as does alot of people in multiple scenarios. You're a rational person of color, you can follow people if you want, but sometimes Hispanics get followed because they're Hispanic and some people wrongfully have issues with them coming in their business.

 

[KHUFU]

You're thinking in a broad sense. I'm speaking on everyday situations. Let me give you an example. Let's say I'm walking behind two women in the street minding my own business. After a while, one of them tells the other that I might be following than the other woman swings her purse at me just because they assumed I was after them. Who is in the wrong, them or me?

Hate, is hate. This is why the term prejudice is used, and prejudice is and can be discriminatory. Racism, sexism, requires an ability to OPPRESS through privilege. For example, white privilege is what changed the definition of racism. In doing such, they have been able to blur the lines, suggesting that anyone can be a racist. They, people like you, used the terms prejudice and racist interchangeably. This was not always the case. While Jim Crow was in effect, no matter what, I could not go into a whites only bathroom, simply because I cursed out some white man, with him thinking that I am a racist. The only people who could go into that bathroom, are those whose privilege protects their rights to be white and first at everything by law. That, is racism.

 

[nawghtyhare]

My point was Stereotyping is Racism and Hispanic people do get wrongfully targeted as does alot of people in multiple scenarios. You're a rational person of color, you can follow people if you want, but sometimes Hispanics get followed because they're Hispanic and some people wrongfully have issues with them coming in their business.

when u go to black businesses
do they do that to u???

 

[peteweezy]

I just don't like how KHUFU 's attempted conversations are considered "antics" and "racist."

Some people never have to have those conversations and aren't comfortable with having those conversations but that doesn't mean when someone brings them up it should be taken as a joke.

It wouldn’t be taken as a joke if duke you mentioned wasn’t a joke. I can’t be around that type of cat mad annoying but online them types can find a home. Maybe them types exist offline but I’m glad they aren’t around me anywhere I’ve ever been. Dude tooo cartoonish for me and it’s not believable but if you believe it do you.

 

[danikerhino]

Hate, is hate. This is why the term prejudice is used, and prejudice is and can be discriminatory. Racism, sexism, requires an ability to OPPRESS through privilege. For example, white privilege is what changed the definition of racism. In doing such, they have been able to blur the lines, suggesting that anyone can be a racist. They, people like you, used the terms prejudice and racist interchangeably. This was not always the case. While Jim Crow was in effect, no matter what, I could not go into a whites only bathroom, simply because I cursed out some white man, with him thinking that I am a racist. The only people who could go into that bathroom, are those whose privilege protects their rights to be white and first at everything by law. That, is racism.

Racism is a form of prejudice. Yes, alot of these minorities haven't been through the **** that we have historically. And yes, maybe I'm less sympethic to their discrimination because it maybe less deep-rooted or despicable compared to what we faced and continue to face. But to make a remark or even have a negative idea on a person or people based on their background is racist. It can be a simple joke to governmental policy. Anybody can be racist, there's just different levels and context to it.

 

[SpittaJetLife]

It wouldn’t be taken as a joke if duke you mentioned wasn’t a joke. I can’t be around that type of cat mad annoying but online them types can find a home. Maybe them types exist offline but I’m glad they aren’t around me anywhere I’ve ever been. Dude tooo cartoonish for me and it’s not believable but if you believe it do you.

I have many homies like Kufu

 

[danikerhino]

when u go to black businesses
do they do that to u???

No because I'm black.

 

[danikerhino]

I have a boy like Khufu. I can't blame dude for thinking that way just because of all the BS we face, especially dudes with a darker complexion. But I called him a out few times for clowning on Asian or Hispanic dudes and thinking it's ok. If you don't call out people for the small things too, than we're going to have people everywhere saying racists to everyone recklessly with little remorse.