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Durant as good--or better?!?!--than...
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im saying dude act like he told us something we didnt know already
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I remember when Kobe used to go off on Battier and Memphis
...after he got traded toHouston, he's become the best defender against Kobe I've seen.
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The upside for both LeBron and KD is scary.
Quit comparing and enjoy two great players.
Besides... D Wade > Both
haha
Quit comparing and enjoy two great players.
Besides... D Wade > Both
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alot of it has to do with kobe losing a step and not driving as much cause he did use to take Battier out back
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Originally Posted by I NaSmatic I
I remember when Kobe used to go off on Battier and Memphis...after he got traded to Houston, he's become the best defender against Kobe I've seen.
We use to throw Posey, Battier and Bonzi at Kobe and he was just filthy.
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LBJ > Durant. Let's not kid ourselves here.
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Ben Roethlisberger wrote:
Besides... D Wade > Bothhaha
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Kevin is not better than Lebron, yet. Dude needs to gain some weight. Basically, Lebron is an animal and Kevin Duran is just a smooth criminal.
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Originally Posted by MayhemMonkey000
I'm sayin'. On paper you can make a pretty decent list on people who have better offensive abilities then LeBron (Carmelo), but none of those guys have close to the same impact as LeBron when he's on the floor.
offensive abilities = PPG.
Therefore, LBJ > Melo @ offensive abilities (not shooting)
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Dwyane Wade led the league in scoring. You trying to tell me he has more offensive abilities than LBJ or Melo? No, he was simply the only onescoring on his team. So, kill that argument. Melo's offensive repertoire is currently superior to LBJ's bulldoze my way to the rim and get freethrows regardless of points per game.Originally Posted by PRETTYPLAYA
Originally Posted by MayhemMonkey000
I'm sayin'. On paper you can make a pretty decent list on people who have better offensive abilities then LeBron (Carmelo), but none of those guys have close to the same impact as LeBron when he's on the floor.
offensive abilities = PPG.
Therefore, LBJ > Melo @ offensive abilities (not shooting)
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Originally Posted by Pill Clinton
@ saying Bron > TP on defense.
I don't know what games you guys watch, but lebron is not a great defender..hes okay. Lebron is a HUSTLE player on defense, aka all those blocks he gets from the weak side.. he's buns guarding players one on one. ask danny granger. Those "all nba defense" points or whatever from last season mean nothing. he got those points strictly because of his blocks
http://www.nba.com/history/awards_defensiveteams.html
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CLEVELAND (AP)-After the referees separated Indiana and Cleveland's heated players, Cavaliers guard Mo Williams stood and stared at the Pacers. Withhis teammates surrounding him, Williams smiled and slowly shook his head from side to side.
A perfect 11-0 at home, Cleveland has won 15 of 16 since starting this season 1-2. The Cavs are doing it with a nasty, suffocatingdefense led by James, who held Indiana's leading scorer Danny Grangerto just four points-20 below his average.
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Originally Posted by 703FlipFiend
Dwyane Wade led the league in scoring. You trying to tell me he has more offensive abilities than LBJ or Melo? No, he was simply the only one scoring on his team. So, kill that argument. Melo's offensive repertoire is currently superior to LBJ's bulldoze my way to the rim and get free throws regardless of points per game.Originally Posted by PRETTYPLAYA
Originally Posted by MayhemMonkey000
I'm sayin'. On paper you can make a pretty decent list on people who have better offensive abilities then LeBron (Carmelo), but none of those guys have close to the same impact as LeBron when he's on the floor.
offensive abilities = PPG.
Therefore, LBJ > Melo @ offensive abilities (not shooting)
We also have to consider the amount of possession they get, word to Kobe's ppg of 35.
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^Please elaborate on how that helps your argument.
I'm not trying to clown, I really just want to understand
I'm not trying to clown, I really just want to understand
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offensive abilities, which is abilities to score and its efficienty.
amount of possession you get is important because,
if player A gets 30 shots to score 30 pts and player B gets 20 shots to score 30pts, then we can say player B has superior offensive abilities.
Even if player A can shoot better, doesn't mean he has better offensive skills because his efficiency lacks. However we can say player A is a bettershooter.
No need for clowning.
amount of possession you get is important because,
if player A gets 30 shots to score 30 pts and player B gets 20 shots to score 30pts, then we can say player B has superior offensive abilities.
Even if player A can shoot better, doesn't mean he has better offensive skills because his efficiency lacks. However we can say player A is a bettershooter.
No need for clowning.
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Originally Posted by 703FlipFiend
Dwyane Wade led the league in scoring. You trying to tell me he has more offensive abilities than LBJ or Melo? No, he was simply the only one scoring on his team. So, kill that argument. Melo's offensive repertoire is currently superior to LBJ's bulldoze my way to the rim and get free throws regardless of points per game.Originally Posted by PRETTYPLAYA
Originally Posted by MayhemMonkey000
I'm sayin'. On paper you can make a pretty decent list on people who have better offensive abilities then LeBron (Carmelo), but none of those guys have close to the same impact as LeBron when he's on the floor.
offensive abilities = PPG.
Therefore, LBJ > Melo @ offensive abilities (not shooting)
and wade is a undersized SG.. your telling me that even a undersized SG can be a the season leading scorer does not have offensive abilities more then therest...you still HAVE TO SCORE... the offense goes through you and if dont have ability to put it in the bucket your team is gonna lose...
plus mo only scored 4 more points a game then beasley
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Wait, so Dwight is better then Duncan offensively? Iggy is better then Beasley? You know how many people would be better then Melo with yourreasoning? I'm sorry but there's only one word for this, simpleton. @%%% ain't that easy... It's more subjective then that.
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this is SO damn stupid....
melo's SKILLSET is LIGHTYEARS ahead of lebron. anyone who tries to argue that, is just blinded with their damn homerism.
and the dude up there did not post one game of lockdown defense to use as his argument did he...
melo's SKILLSET is LIGHTYEARS ahead of lebron. anyone who tries to argue that, is just blinded with their damn homerism.
and the dude up there did not post one game of lockdown defense to use as his argument did he...
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This is great, the whole lebron and durant talk. But my boy mr. mayo will be in this discussion after next season watch.
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no not really so try again
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Doubtful.
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Durant is a beast now and still have the youth and heart to expand his game. Durant only has to improve on the defensive end and develop a mid range game andhe'll be a top 10 player in the next two years.
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But, I bet your boy Derrick Rose will definitely be in discussion as the best PG in the league right?
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Prolly not but he'll be an all-star, can't say that for Mr. Mayo.Originally Posted by bhzmafia14
But, I bet your boy Derrick Rose will definitely be in discussion as the best PG in the league right?
In terms of production this coming year, Eric Gordon>OJ Mayo
