DWIGHT HOWARD for MVP?

Originally Posted by EzFlash26

^The Cleveland Cavs record is sub-par right now, which is why its not "hands-down"...just like it wasnt when Kobe when he was putting up those crazy numbers.
Yep. In my mind, Dwight's got the lead right now.
 
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Forgot about this guy!
 
No doubt, dude is beasting this year. He has to be the leading candidate at this point along with KG just because of their team's success. All of these30pt+ & 15reb+ games are rediculous. LeBron is having a great year so far but unless his team has success, he won't win the MVP (see Kobe the past 2years). If the Magic can put up 50+ wins with Howard averaging 24 and 15 like he is now, he should be a lock.
 
Dwight is currently averaging 27pts 15 boards and 2.7 blocks per game. His team is currently second in the East.

I don't see why he wouldn't atleast be mentioned in the running for MVP.

If only the ping pong balls had dropped at different way, he'd be suiting up for the Windy City

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He's been putting up Shaq-in-his-prime PLAYOFF type numbers in these regular season games.

39 and 16? 30 and 23?? But the thing is, he's doing it...and his team is winning.
 
Originally Posted by SocalxBucks


that pic is dumb, he's 6'11'' try if he was 5'10'', then it's impressive.

Name another dude besides maybe KG and Amare, that are that height, and can get up that high. Most big dudes barely jump to dunk, because they canbasically just reach up there. HATERS
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Look at his numbers man....
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i dont get how you guys dont think its lebron...He is MORE VALUABLE to the team. They can easily get to the championship with having lebron on their team hesplaying out of his mind.

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When the cavs dont have him on the floor they have a 0% chance of doing nething. When hes on the floor theyre beating teams like Boston and geting to thefinals plain and simple BTW if he had rashard lewis omg think about it
 
Originally Posted by Jehlers02

i dont get how you guys dont think its lebron...He is MORE VALUABLE to the team.
no one is questioning lebron's value, but they are just a game above .500

14 wins 4 losses while beasting >>>>> 9 wins 8 losses and beasting
 
Yea Dwight Howard is a FREAKING BEAST!!!

So who else thinks Tmac is sitting at home hitting himself right now? Dwight Howard is like a Shaq Part II. DOMINANT!!! Should've stayed in Orlando.SMH.
 
Lebron and Dwight are very close in value to their teams.

But I hate this "in relation to the team" argument. The same goes for Kobe then, who has been by far the most valuable individual on one team for thepast few years. (i.e. the argument as to how the Lakers would be without him).

Lebron is valuable to a team which is 1 game above .500 and not very impressive. Lebron's stats have been though the roof but I don't think it'senough MVP-wise. His performances are akin to Kobe's individual showcases (i.e. 81 & 62, 50 four straight games), which obviously got him nowhere inthe MVP races.

Dwight is the centerpiece of one of the East's top teams.

RIGHT NOW I would say Dwight or KG, although Dwight's dominance has been more apparent.
 
Originally Posted by Addict4Sneakers

its either paul or howard. i dont care what numbers you put up, you cant be dangling above .500 and be the MVP when others are beasting w/ better records.

but its still too early
i'd put lebron and howard up there. not saying paul isn't in the running, but not top two because you gotta look at what lebron has towork with compared to what cp3 has. and if you don't admit cp3 has the better squad, then you're definitely out of your mind. you put cp3 inlebron's position, and i guarantee you that cleveland has a worse record than they do now.
 
Originally Posted by gusyouout

i'd put lebron and howard up there. not saying paul isn't in the running, but not top two because you gotta look at what lebron has to work with compared to what cp3 has. and if you don't admit cp3 has the better squad, then you're definitely out of your mind. you put cp3 in lebron's position, and i guarantee you that cleveland has a worse record than they do now.


is N.O. more talented than Cleveland? yes. but not by much. Peja isnt the same player he was 6 years ago, david west is eating off of CP3, tyson chandleris limited offensively, and Mo Pete is basically the same player as Pavolvic. CP3 is avg 18ppg 10 assts, 4 rebs, 3 steals and is playing in the toughestdivision in the league.
 
1. Dwight Howard
2. Lebron

Lebron's team just isn't good enough for him to win. He is personifying GREATNESS out there on the court right now, and it showed when he was out theother day. But if you take Dwight off of the Magic... they would absolutely fall apart to nothingness as well. The only reason Hedo and these dudes are evenscoring is cause they triple team Dwight and they are WIDE open all game long.

And I can see Lebron stats cooling off later on in the season.

I see Dwight's stats going up.

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::faints::

He's not real
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I think Lebron might be slightly ahead of him right now. We need to see how Lebron comes back from his injury
 
The thing is, Lebron is FORCED to put up ridiculous numbers. Dude earlier had it correct with the Kobe comparison. Kobe has been FORCED to put up ridiculousnumbers, however, he didn't win it because numbers don't show anything other than the fact that you have to put up dumb amounts of points to keep yourteam afloat. If Kobe had the Lakers anywhere higher than the 7th seed (remember, they were looking like a force at the beginning of last season), I have nodoubt in my mind he would have won over Dirk. AI in 01 deserved MVP because he led his team to the top seed in the East while meaning just as much asKobe/Lebron meant to his team in terms of pure statistical output.

What Dwight and CP3 are doing is much like what AI did that year (though of course its way too early in the season to truly make the comparison). They bothmean a lot to their respective teams, and are the main reasons that their teams are getting it done. Everyone needs a supporting cast (even if AI just hadMutumbo and Mckie), and if you can't do it withwhat you have, then you're SOL.
 
Of course its still way too early but here's the lists so far....

1. Lebron
2. Dwight
3. KG
4. Baron
 
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