you make good points, but i mostly sell jordans from my private stash. dudes are constantly sending me emails asking for me to take the auction offline. if i want to persuade people who might think it's a scam, i can do the same thing that Stillln does - put in the description "Buy It Now price available via email".
Originally Posted by jimmybeanz
I won't go as far to say that ebay is treading water. however, they have made decisions that have pushed sellers away. those decisions have caused revenue from auctions to go down (over a 5 year period). my points/questions are these:Originally Posted by HAM CITY
How can I be avoiding your "valid" points when you haven't made any defending your claims about eBay's finances?
I never said losing customers was good financially, I didn't acknowledge you there because it wasn't relevant to the dribble you were spitting earlier nor anything I've said in this thread.
I'm no guru but NO, $30 million paid in settlements would be an expense. You subtract those from revenues to get profits presuming your revenues exceed expenses (just so you can't claim I'm avoiding your or so valid points).
jimmybeanz thanks for posting the article. Unfortunately for our guy StillIn729 it only strengthens my argument that eBay is not currently treading water, is in fact on the rebound, and not in any immediate danger of going out of business. I'm confused, were you disagreeing with me or just responding to my request for a source (which was appreciated)?
1) why are you and nawth cheering ebay on? they don't care about you. with revenues going down, they're trying to milk whatever they can.
2) sneaker re-sellers won't be the only ones affected by this change in rules. EVERBODY WHO SELLS OR BUYS WILL BE affected. if you think prices are stupid high now, you think they will go down when the FVF goes up?noooooo. more people will try to sell local via craigslist (or just use other alternatives). if more people try to sell local, you're - ucked if you don't live in a major city.
sidenote - i often comparison shop for stuff on amazon and ebay. which one do you think is ALWAYS cheaper even though both have 3rd parties selling??? hint: it starts with an "a".
nawth can gloat all she wants...until she calculates what this new change will cost her. she talks about people should follow ebay's rules and not get mad. but she's mad at the people that exploit the system? lmfao
BTW, i'm not a genius, but i've already thought of a way to give ebay "the finger" for their april 19th changes. i'll start using ebay as a screening service. meaning, i'll create auctions and look for bidders that have respectable feedback. once i have a couple, i'll cancel the auction, and send out emails to those folk. i'll still have to pay the paypal fee, but ebay will be out of the FVF.
Has this been working for you? If someone was to hit me up on ebay to do a transaction off ebay, I'd think it was mad sketchy and probably just delete the e-mail.Originally Posted by memphissfinest
Originally Posted by jimmybeanz
I won't go as far to say that ebay is treading water. however, they have made decisions that have pushed sellers away. those decisions have caused revenue from auctions to go down (over a 5 year period). my points/questions are these:Originally Posted by HAM CITY
How can I be avoiding your "valid" points when you haven't made any defending your claims about eBay's finances?
I never said losing customers was good financially, I didn't acknowledge you there because it wasn't relevant to the dribble you were spitting earlier nor anything I've said in this thread.
I'm no guru but NO, $30 million paid in settlements would be an expense. You subtract those from revenues to get profits presuming your revenues exceed expenses (just so you can't claim I'm avoiding your or so valid points).
jimmybeanz thanks for posting the article. Unfortunately for our guy StillIn729 it only strengthens my argument that eBay is not currently treading water, is in fact on the rebound, and not in any immediate danger of going out of business. I'm confused, were you disagreeing with me or just responding to my request for a source (which was appreciated)?
1) why are you and nawth cheering ebay on? they don't care about you. with revenues going down, they're trying to milk whatever they can.
2) sneaker re-sellers won't be the only ones affected by this change in rules. EVERBODY WHO SELLS OR BUYS WILL BE affected. if you think prices are stupid high now, you think they will go down when the FVF goes up?noooooo. more people will try to sell local via craigslist (or just use other alternatives). if more people try to sell local, you're - ucked if you don't live in a major city.
sidenote - i often comparison shop for stuff on amazon and ebay. which one do you think is ALWAYS cheaper even though both have 3rd parties selling??? hint: it starts with an "a".
nawth can gloat all she wants...until she calculates what this new change will cost her. she talks about people should follow ebay's rules and not get mad. but she's mad at the people that exploit the system? lmfao
BTW, i'm not a genius, but i've already thought of a way to give ebay "the finger" for their april 19th changes. i'll start using ebay as a screening service. meaning, i'll create auctions and look for bidders that have respectable feedback. once i have a couple, i'll cancel the auction, and send out emails to those folk. i'll still have to pay the paypal fee, but ebay will be out of the FVF.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS NOW. NOTHING NEW.
not if you explain why and if you use Paypal you'd still be protected and if you have legit feedback, anyone who has ever sold anything on eBay would understand why you are doing this.Originally Posted by 430AM
Has this been working for you? If someone was to hit me up on ebay to do a transaction off ebay, I'd think it was mad sketchy and probably just delete the e-mail.Originally Posted by memphissfinest
Originally Posted by jimmybeanz
I won't go as far to say that ebay is treading water. however, they have made decisions that have pushed sellers away. those decisions have caused revenue from auctions to go down (over a 5 year period). my points/questions are these:
1) why are you and nawth cheering ebay on? they don't care about you. with revenues going down, they're trying to milk whatever they can.
2) sneaker re-sellers won't be the only ones affected by this change in rules. EVERBODY WHO SELLS OR BUYS WILL BE affected. if you think prices are stupid high now, you think they will go down when the FVF goes up?noooooo. more people will try to sell local via craigslist (or just use other alternatives). if more people try to sell local, you're - ucked if you don't live in a major city.
sidenote - i often comparison shop for stuff on amazon and ebay. which one do you think is ALWAYS cheaper even though both have 3rd parties selling??? hint: it starts with an "a".
nawth can gloat all she wants...until she calculates what this new change will cost her. she talks about people should follow ebay's rules and not get mad. but she's mad at the people that exploit the system? lmfao
BTW, i'm not a genius, but i've already thought of a way to give ebay "the finger" for their april 19th changes. i'll start using ebay as a screening service. meaning, i'll create auctions and look for bidders that have respectable feedback. once i have a couple, i'll cancel the auction, and send out emails to those folk. i'll still have to pay the paypal fee, but ebay will be out of the FVF.
I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS NOW. NOTHING NEW.
Yeah, I hear you... I know that it can work, but I'm just warning people... you are exposing yourself to people reporting you. And if you get reported, Ebay has very little sympathy.
How am I the moron?Originally Posted by StillIn729
Ham is just a moron so I'm not even addressing him anymore...I was being sarcastic about the lawsuit increasing revenues and he thought I was seriousOriginally Posted by jimmybeanz
I won't go as far to say that ebay is treading water. however, they have made decisions that have pushed sellers away. those decisions have caused revenue from auctions to go down (over a 5 year period). my points/questions are these:Originally Posted by HAM CITY
How can I be avoiding your "valid" points when you haven't made any defending your claims about eBay's finances?
I never said losing customers was good financially, I didn'tacknowledge you there because it wasn't relevant to the dribble youwere spitting earlier nor anything I've said in this thread.
I'm no guru but NO, $30 million paid in settlementswould be an expense. You subtract those from revenues to get profits presuming your revenues exceed expenses (just so you can'tclaim I'm avoiding your or so valid points).
jimmybeanz thanks for postingthe article. Unfortunately for our guy StillIn729 it only strengthensmy argument that eBay is not currently treading water, is in facton the rebound, and not in any immediate danger of going out ofbusiness. I'm confused, were you disagreeing with me or just respondingto my request for a source (which was appreciated)?
1) why are you and nawth cheering ebay on? they don't care about you. with revenues going down, they're trying to milk whatever they can.
2) sneaker re-sellers won't be the only ones affected by this change in rules. EVERBODY WHO SELLS OR BUYS WILL BE affected. if you think prices are stupid high now, you think they will go down when the FVF goes up?noooooo. more people will try to sell local via craigslist (or just use other alternatives). if more people try to sell local, you're - ucked if you don't live in a major city.
sidenote - i often comparison shop for stuff on amazon and ebay. which one do you think is ALWAYS cheaper even though both have 3rd parties selling??? hint: it starts with an "a".
nawth can gloat all she wants...until she calculates what this new change will cost her. she talks about people should follow ebay's rules and not get mad. but she's mad at the people that exploit the system? lmfao
BTW, i'm not a genius, but i've already thought of a way to give ebay "the finger" for their april 19th changes. i'll start using ebay as a screening service. meaning, i'll create auctions and look for bidders that have respectable feedback. once i have a couple, i'll cancel the auction, and send out emails to those folk. i'll still have to pay the paypal fee, but ebay will be out of the FVF.Ham get back to me in 5 years and let me know how the financial strength of eBay is doing
Jimmybeanz: to the bold statement, I did that the past 6 months, I would always put the auction high enough and make my opening line in the title "Please email for the best buy it now price and you will save money" and I would handle the transaction off eBay and there is nothing they can do about that.
bottomline: eBay is in trouble because their fees have sellers asking for increased prices in fixed auction formats when the same items are much cheaper on Amazon because they don't have to account for high eBay fees along with the double dip from Paypal.
so do i. im saying if we have to pay fees its not worth selling the shoes if say its a $50 shoe and someone buys it in Australia shipping would be about $43 like you said im going to have to pay about $10 in fees but the item sold was only $50 in no way was i hustling Ebay but thats the cost of shipping.
that sucks for me, because i will be selling a mbp in a couple weeks.
Originally Posted by Oh YoU MaD
Cmon google, where you at?!?!
GoogleAuction would be
