Floyd on Pac - "have him make sushi and cook some rice." "he's a ******" - RACIST

[bleach]

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by akm2tan

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by JUS3

Originally Posted by mco85

1. Floyd knows what he is doing. Him talking %%%% makes me happy because it means he plan to fight pac eventually


2. Floyd is ducking Pac, but how come nobody talks %%%% about Pac for ducking marquez. If floyd beat Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto and Clottey nobody would give him any credit. Pac picks people in bigger weight classes that he knows he will dominate. The toughest fight for him other than Floyd is marquez but Pac wants no part of it

Word.  We know that Pacquiao's hardest fights were with Marquez, but at least they fought twice.  And why are you acting like Pacquiao was a heavy favorite in all his fights?  He was an underdog in the Oscar fight and people thought he couldn't hang with Cotto.  With the exception of the recent fight with Mosley, MM has always taken the safer bout. 
 
There's no way to defend all the fighters MM has ducked.  With the amount of talent and skill he has it's +%@$%@*@.  We all know he's a great fighter but he had a chance to be one of the greatest to ever do it.

Mayweather has ducked people at welterweight but lets not act like he always ducked people. He paid his dues and dominated the at lightweight, he was ducked by a bunch of boxers for many years. Im not saying May isnt ducking people now but all boxers do it he just gets all the hate for it.



the public may have thought that Pacs last four fights were tough, but as a boxing fan I never thought any of those dudes were even gonna get close to beating him. Pac knows that marquez would be a tougher fight than any of those dudes and thats why he wants no part of it, but I never hear anyone saying anything about that.

You can easily say the same thing about Mayweather.  He takes on fights where the fighter is already past their prime.  He had the opportunity to fight Margherito, Cotto and Mosley when they were up there in rankings but he ran away and retired.  He could have fought someone more appealing than Marquez when he came back from retirement but didnt.  He always wants to fight in fights where its a sure thing hes gonna win, if he did fight mosley years ago that fight could have been alot different.   And right now it seems that Mayweather is just scared.  Its all over the news, its said by all sports analysts that he is the one at fault for this fight not happening its almost like hes a joke.  Hes destroying his image everyday he doesnt agree to this fight.  That says alot about his so called greatness. 

Again, im not saying i disagree, since coming up in weight Mayweather has been very cautious. All im saying is the same is true for Pac. People act like Pac takes on all comers but IMO he doesn't. He fights people he knows he can beat just like May.

That's bull. Pac has taken on all comers. HELLO?!?!?! HE BEAT MARQUEZ ALREADY!!!! He should have beaten him twice if it wasn't for the Canadian judge who admitted he made a scoring error in their first fight. Why should Pac want to fight someone he beat already & if not for that blind judge who doesn't know how to score knockdowns, would have beaten him twice? Someone already mentioned this and I concur with his (or her) sentiment; Pac would absolutely destroy Marquez at this stage of their careers. Everyone knows Pac is a complete fighter now and in his prime. Marquez has no chance in hell.

Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao


http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1239916

Really? Wow, you could have knocked me over with a feather. Last time I checked, the sport uses JUDGES to determine a winner. Even someone with 4 posts should know that.

the judges dont always get it right.

Gameover2 wrote:

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bleach

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You have 4 posts. What you say doesn't matter. Besides, you had to create a new SN or alternick to post in this thread. Again, what you say doesn't matter.
  
do you want a prize for being a veteran on a internet forum?  lol 

ill pass on the circlejerk

 

[bleach]

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by akm2tan

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by JUS3

Originally Posted by mco85

1. Floyd knows what he is doing. Him talking %%%% makes me happy because it means he plan to fight pac eventually


2. Floyd is ducking Pac, but how come nobody talks %%%% about Pac for ducking marquez. If floyd beat Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto and Clottey nobody would give him any credit. Pac picks people in bigger weight classes that he knows he will dominate. The toughest fight for him other than Floyd is marquez but Pac wants no part of it

Word.  We know that Pacquiao's hardest fights were with Marquez, but at least they fought twice.  And why are you acting like Pacquiao was a heavy favorite in all his fights?  He was an underdog in the Oscar fight and people thought he couldn't hang with Cotto.  With the exception of the recent fight with Mosley, MM has always taken the safer bout. 
 
There's no way to defend all the fighters MM has ducked.  With the amount of talent and skill he has it's +%@$%@*@.  We all know he's a great fighter but he had a chance to be one of the greatest to ever do it.

Mayweather has ducked people at welterweight but lets not act like he always ducked people. He paid his dues and dominated the at lightweight, he was ducked by a bunch of boxers for many years. Im not saying May isnt ducking people now but all boxers do it he just gets all the hate for it.



the public may have thought that Pacs last four fights were tough, but as a boxing fan I never thought any of those dudes were even gonna get close to beating him. Pac knows that marquez would be a tougher fight than any of those dudes and thats why he wants no part of it, but I never hear anyone saying anything about that.

You can easily say the same thing about Mayweather.  He takes on fights where the fighter is already past their prime.  He had the opportunity to fight Margherito, Cotto and Mosley when they were up there in rankings but he ran away and retired.  He could have fought someone more appealing than Marquez when he came back from retirement but didnt.  He always wants to fight in fights where its a sure thing hes gonna win, if he did fight mosley years ago that fight could have been alot different.   And right now it seems that Mayweather is just scared.  Its all over the news, its said by all sports analysts that he is the one at fault for this fight not happening its almost like hes a joke.  Hes destroying his image everyday he doesnt agree to this fight.  That says alot about his so called greatness. 

Again, im not saying i disagree, since coming up in weight Mayweather has been very cautious. All im saying is the same is true for Pac. People act like Pac takes on all comers but IMO he doesn't. He fights people he knows he can beat just like May.

That's bull. Pac has taken on all comers. HELLO?!?!?! HE BEAT MARQUEZ ALREADY!!!! He should have beaten him twice if it wasn't for the Canadian judge who admitted he made a scoring error in their first fight. Why should Pac want to fight someone he beat already & if not for that blind judge who doesn't know how to score knockdowns, would have beaten him twice? Someone already mentioned this and I concur with his (or her) sentiment; Pac would absolutely destroy Marquez at this stage of their careers. Everyone knows Pac is a complete fighter now and in his prime. Marquez has no chance in hell.

Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao


http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1239916

Really? Wow, you could have knocked me over with a feather. Last time I checked, the sport uses JUDGES to determine a winner. Even someone with 4 posts should know that.

the judges dont always get it right.

Gameover2 wrote:

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bleach

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You have 4 posts. What you say doesn't matter. Besides, you had to create a new SN or alternick to post in this thread. Again, what you say doesn't matter.
  
do you want a prize for being a veteran on a internet forum?  lol 

ill pass on the circlejerk

 

[bigsexy49]

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by akm2tan

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by JUS3

Originally Posted by mco85

1. Floyd knows what he is doing. Him talking %%%% makes me happy because it means he plan to fight pac eventually


2. Floyd is ducking Pac, but how come nobody talks %%%% about Pac for ducking marquez. If floyd beat Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto and Clottey nobody would give him any credit. Pac picks people in bigger weight classes that he knows he will dominate. The toughest fight for him other than Floyd is marquez but Pac wants no part of it

Word.  We know that Pacquiao's hardest fights were with Marquez, but at least they fought twice.  And why are you acting like Pacquiao was a heavy favorite in all his fights?  He was an underdog in the Oscar fight and people thought he couldn't hang with Cotto.  With the exception of the recent fight with Mosley, MM has always taken the safer bout. 
 
There's no way to defend all the fighters MM has ducked.  With the amount of talent and skill he has it's +%@$%@*@.  We all know he's a great fighter but he had a chance to be one of the greatest to ever do it.

Mayweather has ducked people at welterweight but lets not act like he always ducked people. He paid his dues and dominated the at lightweight, he was ducked by a bunch of boxers for many years. Im not saying May isnt ducking people now but all boxers do it he just gets all the hate for it.



the public may have thought that Pacs last four fights were tough, but as a boxing fan I never thought any of those dudes were even gonna get close to beating him. Pac knows that marquez would be a tougher fight than any of those dudes and thats why he wants no part of it, but I never hear anyone saying anything about that.

You can easily say the same thing about Mayweather.  He takes on fights where the fighter is already past their prime.  He had the opportunity to fight Margherito, Cotto and Mosley when they were up there in rankings but he ran away and retired.  He could have fought someone more appealing than Marquez when he came back from retirement but didnt.  He always wants to fight in fights where its a sure thing hes gonna win, if he did fight mosley years ago that fight could have been alot different.   And right now it seems that Mayweather is just scared.  Its all over the news, its said by all sports analysts that he is the one at fault for this fight not happening its almost like hes a joke.  Hes destroying his image everyday he doesnt agree to this fight.  That says alot about his so called greatness. 

Again, im not saying i disagree, since coming up in weight Mayweather has been very cautious. All im saying is the same is true for Pac. People act like Pac takes on all comers but IMO he doesn't. He fights people he knows he can beat just like May.

That's bull. Pac has taken on all comers. HELLO?!?!?! HE BEAT MARQUEZ ALREADY!!!! He should have beaten him twice if it wasn't for the Canadian judge who admitted he made a scoring error in their first fight. Why should Pac want to fight someone he beat already & if not for that blind judge who doesn't know how to score knockdowns, would have beaten him twice? Someone already mentioned this and I concur with his (or her) sentiment; Pac would absolutely destroy Marquez at this stage of their careers. Everyone knows Pac is a complete fighter now and in his prime. Marquez has no chance in hell.

Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao


http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1239916

Really? Wow, you could have knocked me over with a feather. Last time I checked, the sport uses JUDGES to determine a winner. Even someone with 4 posts should know that.

the judges dont always get it right.

Man, you're dumb. Even the evidence you cite to support your argument is flawed. You reference Roy Jones with your first youtube link yet Roy says that "whenever Don King is involved you can expect a draw to come from somewhere". DON KING WASN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE FIGHTS BETWEEN PAC & JMM!!!!

Even citing the Holyfield/Lewis fights is counter to your argument: the parallels between those fights and the fights between PAC/JMM are that (1) they fought twice, (2) the first fight was a draw, and (3) a second fight was fought to determine who was the better fighter amidst the controversy of their first fight. And who won that second fight between PAC & JMM?!?!??!? Yeah, I thought so.

But your argument is also flawed at the most basic level: you retort by saying that "the judges don[']t always get it right" (the word "don't" is spelled with an apostrophe by the way). No sh*t. But the judges don't (you see that I put in the apostrophe when I spelled the word "don't", do you? ) always get it wrong either, genius. For every boxing fight that has ever been judged in the history of the sport, no one is going to make the preposterous argument (either than perhaps a nincompoop like you) that the judges have incorrectly decided a fight more often than they have correctly decided it. For every fight boxing the judges mess up, they get a thousand right. So even going on sheer probability your argument flops.

Do all of us a favor and stop making posts here since you can't even put an argument together.

 

[bigsexy49]

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by akm2tan

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by JUS3

Originally Posted by mco85

1. Floyd knows what he is doing. Him talking %%%% makes me happy because it means he plan to fight pac eventually


2. Floyd is ducking Pac, but how come nobody talks %%%% about Pac for ducking marquez. If floyd beat Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto and Clottey nobody would give him any credit. Pac picks people in bigger weight classes that he knows he will dominate. The toughest fight for him other than Floyd is marquez but Pac wants no part of it

Word.  We know that Pacquiao's hardest fights were with Marquez, but at least they fought twice.  And why are you acting like Pacquiao was a heavy favorite in all his fights?  He was an underdog in the Oscar fight and people thought he couldn't hang with Cotto.  With the exception of the recent fight with Mosley, MM has always taken the safer bout. 
 
There's no way to defend all the fighters MM has ducked.  With the amount of talent and skill he has it's +%@$%@*@.  We all know he's a great fighter but he had a chance to be one of the greatest to ever do it.

Mayweather has ducked people at welterweight but lets not act like he always ducked people. He paid his dues and dominated the at lightweight, he was ducked by a bunch of boxers for many years. Im not saying May isnt ducking people now but all boxers do it he just gets all the hate for it.



the public may have thought that Pacs last four fights were tough, but as a boxing fan I never thought any of those dudes were even gonna get close to beating him. Pac knows that marquez would be a tougher fight than any of those dudes and thats why he wants no part of it, but I never hear anyone saying anything about that.

You can easily say the same thing about Mayweather.  He takes on fights where the fighter is already past their prime.  He had the opportunity to fight Margherito, Cotto and Mosley when they were up there in rankings but he ran away and retired.  He could have fought someone more appealing than Marquez when he came back from retirement but didnt.  He always wants to fight in fights where its a sure thing hes gonna win, if he did fight mosley years ago that fight could have been alot different.   And right now it seems that Mayweather is just scared.  Its all over the news, its said by all sports analysts that he is the one at fault for this fight not happening its almost like hes a joke.  Hes destroying his image everyday he doesnt agree to this fight.  That says alot about his so called greatness. 

Again, im not saying i disagree, since coming up in weight Mayweather has been very cautious. All im saying is the same is true for Pac. People act like Pac takes on all comers but IMO he doesn't. He fights people he knows he can beat just like May.

That's bull. Pac has taken on all comers. HELLO?!?!?! HE BEAT MARQUEZ ALREADY!!!! He should have beaten him twice if it wasn't for the Canadian judge who admitted he made a scoring error in their first fight. Why should Pac want to fight someone he beat already & if not for that blind judge who doesn't know how to score knockdowns, would have beaten him twice? Someone already mentioned this and I concur with his (or her) sentiment; Pac would absolutely destroy Marquez at this stage of their careers. Everyone knows Pac is a complete fighter now and in his prime. Marquez has no chance in hell.

Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao


http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1239916

Really? Wow, you could have knocked me over with a feather. Last time I checked, the sport uses JUDGES to determine a winner. Even someone with 4 posts should know that.

the judges dont always get it right.

Man, you're dumb. Even the evidence you cite to support your argument is flawed. You reference Roy Jones with your first youtube link yet Roy says that "whenever Don King is involved you can expect a draw to come from somewhere". DON KING WASN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE FIGHTS BETWEEN PAC & JMM!!!!

Even citing the Holyfield/Lewis fights is counter to your argument: the parallels between those fights and the fights between PAC/JMM are that (1) they fought twice, (2) the first fight was a draw, and (3) a second fight was fought to determine who was the better fighter amidst the controversy of their first fight. And who won that second fight between PAC & JMM?!?!??!? Yeah, I thought so.

But your argument is also flawed at the most basic level: you retort by saying that "the judges don[']t always get it right" (the word "don't" is spelled with an apostrophe by the way). No sh*t. But the judges don't (you see that I put in the apostrophe when I spelled the word "don't", do you? ) always get it wrong either, genius. For every boxing fight that has ever been judged in the history of the sport, no one is going to make the preposterous argument (either than perhaps a nincompoop like you) that the judges have incorrectly decided a fight more often than they have correctly decided it. For every fight boxing the judges mess up, they get a thousand right. So even going on sheer probability your argument flops.

Do all of us a favor and stop making posts here since you can't even put an argument together.

 

[bleach]

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by akm2tan

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by JUS3

Originally Posted by mco85

1. Floyd knows what he is doing. Him talking %%%% makes me happy because it means he plan to fight pac eventually


2. Floyd is ducking Pac, but how come nobody talks %%%% about Pac for ducking marquez. If floyd beat Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto and Clottey nobody would give him any credit. Pac picks people in bigger weight classes that he knows he will dominate. The toughest fight for him other than Floyd is marquez but Pac wants no part of it

Word.  We know that Pacquiao's hardest fights were with Marquez, but at least they fought twice. And why are you acting like Pacquiao was a heavy favorite in all his fights? He was an underdog in the Oscar fight and people thought he couldn't hang with Cotto. With the exception of the recent fight with Mosley, MM has always taken the safer bout.

There's no way to defend all the fighters MM has ducked. With the amount of talent and skill he has it's +%@$%@*@. We all know he's a great fighter but he had a chance to be one of the greatest to ever do it.

Mayweather has ducked people at welterweight but lets not act like he always ducked people. He paid his dues and dominated the at lightweight, he was ducked by a bunch of boxers for many years. Im not saying May isnt ducking people now but all boxers do it he just gets all the hate for it.



the public may have thought that Pacs last four fights were tough, but as a boxing fan I never thought any of those dudes were even gonna get close to beating him. Pac knows that marquez would be a tougher fight than any of those dudes and thats why he wants no part of it, but I never hear anyone saying anything about that.

You can easily say the same thing about Mayweather. He takes on fights where the fighter is already past their prime. He had the opportunity to fight Margherito, Cotto and Mosley when they were up there in rankings but he ran away and retired. He could have fought someone more appealing than Marquez when he came back from retirement but didnt. He always wants to fight in fights where its a sure thing hes gonna win, if he did fight mosley years ago that fight could have been alot different. And right now it seems that Mayweather is just scared. Its all over the news, its said by all sports analysts that he is the one at fault for this fight not happening its almost like hes a joke. Hes destroying his image everyday he doesnt agree to this fight. That says alot about his so called greatness.

Again, im not saying i disagree, since coming up in weight Mayweather has been very cautious. All im saying is the same is true for Pac. People act like Pac takes on all comers but IMO he doesn't. He fights people he knows he can beat just like May.

That's bull. Pac has taken on all comers. HELLO?!?!?! HE BEAT MARQUEZ ALREADY!!!! He should have beaten him twice if it wasn't for the Canadian judge who admitted he made a scoring error in their first fight. Why should Pac want to fight someone he beat already & if not for that blind judge who doesn't know how to score knockdowns, would have beaten him twice? Someone already mentioned this and I concur with his (or her) sentiment; Pac would absolutely destroy Marquez at this stage of their careers. Everyone knows Pac is a complete fighter now and in his prime. Marquez has no chance in hell.

Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao


http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1239916

Really? Wow, you could have knocked me over with a feather. Last time I checked, the sport uses JUDGES to determine a winner. Even someone with 4 posts should know that.

the judges dont always get it right.

Man, you're dumb. Even the evidence you cite to support your argument is flawed. You reference Roy Jones with your first youtube link yet Roy says that "whenever Don King is involved you can expect a draw to come from somewhere". DON KING WASN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE FIGHTS BETWEEN PAC & JMM!!!!

Even citing the Holyfield/Lewis fights is counter to your argument: the parallels between those fights and the fights between PAC/JMM are that (1) they fought twice, (2) the first fight was a draw, and (3) a second fight was fought to determine who was the better fighter amidst the controversy of their first fight. And who won that second fight between PAC & JMM?!?!??!? Yeah, I thought so.

But your argument is also flawed at the most basic level: you retort by saying that "the judges don[']t always get it right" (the word "don't" is spelled with an apostrophe by the way). No sh*t. But the judges don't (you see that I put in the apostrophe when I spelled the word "don't", do you? ) always get it wrong either, genius. For every boxing fight that has ever been judged in the history of the sport, no one is going to make the preposterous argument (either than perhaps a nincompoop like you) that the judges have incorrectly decided a fight more often than they have correctly decided it. For every fight boxing the judges mess up, they get a thousand right. So even going on sheer probability your argument flops.

Do all of us a favor and stop making posts here since you can't even put an argument together.

you totally missed the point of me linking those videos. if you didnt notice, boxing throughout the years has been full of robberies.
de la hoya vs trinidad

de la hoya vs whitaker

de la hoya vs shane the 2nd time

and hell, even floyd vs castillo the first time (floyd was basically fighting with one arm that night though, and whooped him in the rematch after that)

basically ALL boxing experts felt that pacquiao lost that 2nd fight to jmm

if you look at the punchstat numbers, jmm landed more jabs and power punches, and at a higher percentage.

 

[bleach]

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by bigsexy49

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by akm2tan

Originally Posted by mco85

Originally Posted by JUS3

Originally Posted by mco85

1. Floyd knows what he is doing. Him talking %%%% makes me happy because it means he plan to fight pac eventually


2. Floyd is ducking Pac, but how come nobody talks %%%% about Pac for ducking marquez. If floyd beat Hatton, De La Hoya, Cotto and Clottey nobody would give him any credit. Pac picks people in bigger weight classes that he knows he will dominate. The toughest fight for him other than Floyd is marquez but Pac wants no part of it

Word.  We know that Pacquiao's hardest fights were with Marquez, but at least they fought twice. And why are you acting like Pacquiao was a heavy favorite in all his fights? He was an underdog in the Oscar fight and people thought he couldn't hang with Cotto. With the exception of the recent fight with Mosley, MM has always taken the safer bout.

There's no way to defend all the fighters MM has ducked. With the amount of talent and skill he has it's +%@$%@*@. We all know he's a great fighter but he had a chance to be one of the greatest to ever do it.

Mayweather has ducked people at welterweight but lets not act like he always ducked people. He paid his dues and dominated the at lightweight, he was ducked by a bunch of boxers for many years. Im not saying May isnt ducking people now but all boxers do it he just gets all the hate for it.



the public may have thought that Pacs last four fights were tough, but as a boxing fan I never thought any of those dudes were even gonna get close to beating him. Pac knows that marquez would be a tougher fight than any of those dudes and thats why he wants no part of it, but I never hear anyone saying anything about that.

You can easily say the same thing about Mayweather. He takes on fights where the fighter is already past their prime. He had the opportunity to fight Margherito, Cotto and Mosley when they were up there in rankings but he ran away and retired. He could have fought someone more appealing than Marquez when he came back from retirement but didnt. He always wants to fight in fights where its a sure thing hes gonna win, if he did fight mosley years ago that fight could have been alot different. And right now it seems that Mayweather is just scared. Its all over the news, its said by all sports analysts that he is the one at fault for this fight not happening its almost like hes a joke. Hes destroying his image everyday he doesnt agree to this fight. That says alot about his so called greatness.

Again, im not saying i disagree, since coming up in weight Mayweather has been very cautious. All im saying is the same is true for Pac. People act like Pac takes on all comers but IMO he doesn't. He fights people he knows he can beat just like May.

That's bull. Pac has taken on all comers. HELLO?!?!?! HE BEAT MARQUEZ ALREADY!!!! He should have beaten him twice if it wasn't for the Canadian judge who admitted he made a scoring error in their first fight. Why should Pac want to fight someone he beat already & if not for that blind judge who doesn't know how to score knockdowns, would have beaten him twice? Someone already mentioned this and I concur with his (or her) sentiment; Pac would absolutely destroy Marquez at this stage of their careers. Everyone knows Pac is a complete fighter now and in his prime. Marquez has no chance in hell.

Most boxing experts had Marquez winning over Pacquiao


http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:1239916

Really? Wow, you could have knocked me over with a feather. Last time I checked, the sport uses JUDGES to determine a winner. Even someone with 4 posts should know that.

the judges dont always get it right.

Man, you're dumb. Even the evidence you cite to support your argument is flawed. You reference Roy Jones with your first youtube link yet Roy says that "whenever Don King is involved you can expect a draw to come from somewhere". DON KING WASN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN ANY OF THE FIGHTS BETWEEN PAC & JMM!!!!

Even citing the Holyfield/Lewis fights is counter to your argument: the parallels between those fights and the fights between PAC/JMM are that (1) they fought twice, (2) the first fight was a draw, and (3) a second fight was fought to determine who was the better fighter amidst the controversy of their first fight. And who won that second fight between PAC & JMM?!?!??!? Yeah, I thought so.

But your argument is also flawed at the most basic level: you retort by saying that "the judges don[']t always get it right" (the word "don't" is spelled with an apostrophe by the way). No sh*t. But the judges don't (you see that I put in the apostrophe when I spelled the word "don't", do you? ) always get it wrong either, genius. For every boxing fight that has ever been judged in the history of the sport, no one is going to make the preposterous argument (either than perhaps a nincompoop like you) that the judges have incorrectly decided a fight more often than they have correctly decided it. For every fight boxing the judges mess up, they get a thousand right. So even going on sheer probability your argument flops.

Do all of us a favor and stop making posts here since you can't even put an argument together.

you totally missed the point of me linking those videos. if you didnt notice, boxing throughout the years has been full of robberies.
de la hoya vs trinidad

de la hoya vs whitaker

de la hoya vs shane the 2nd time

and hell, even floyd vs castillo the first time (floyd was basically fighting with one arm that night though, and whooped him in the rematch after that)

basically ALL boxing experts felt that pacquiao lost that 2nd fight to jmm

if you look at the punchstat numbers, jmm landed more jabs and power punches, and at a higher percentage.

 

[hanktrill]

i had jmm winning the first , i dont score fights 10-6 thats bull , marquez won 8 rounds by consensus

 

[hanktrill]

i had jmm winning the first , i dont score fights 10-6 thats bull , marquez won 8 rounds by consensus

 

[carlofromdapi]

Originally Posted by Gameover2

bleach

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You have 4 posts. What you say doesn't matter. Besides, you had to create a new SN or alternick to post in this thread. Again, what you say doesn't matter.
  

 

[carlofromdapi]

Originally Posted by Gameover2

bleach

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You have 4 posts. What you say doesn't matter. Besides, you had to create a new SN or alternick to post in this thread. Again, what you say doesn't matter.
  

 

[lightweight champion]

Compubox numbers do lie though because they're cumulative stats. Meaning they add all the stats from every eound together. To fully analyze fights you gotta look at them on a round by round basis instead of cumulatively. But since we're going on how the judges scored the 1st and 2nd JMM/Pac fights...if the one judge scored the first round correctly in the first fight Pac would've won. And one judge had it 115-112 JMM in the 2nd, one had it the same score but for Pac. And the last judge had it 113-112 for Pac. So, had JMM not been knocked down in the 3rd round the last judge would've had it 113-113 and we would've had another draw.

 

[lightweight champion]

Compubox numbers do lie though because they're cumulative stats. Meaning they add all the stats from every eound together. To fully analyze fights you gotta look at them on a round by round basis instead of cumulatively. But since we're going on how the judges scored the 1st and 2nd JMM/Pac fights...if the one judge scored the first round correctly in the first fight Pac would've won. And one judge had it 115-112 JMM in the 2nd, one had it the same score but for Pac. And the last judge had it 113-112 for Pac. So, had JMM not been knocked down in the 3rd round the last judge would've had it 113-113 and we would've had another draw.

 

[mco85]

How anyone can say that Pac would DESTROY Marquez is beyond me

 

[mco85]

How anyone can say that Pac would DESTROY Marquez is beyond me

 

[bleach]

Originally Posted by Lightweight Champion

Compubox numbers do lie though because they're cumulative stats. Meaning they add all the stats from every eound together. To fully analyze fights you gotta look at them on a round by round basis instead of cumulatively. But since we're going on how the judges scored the 1st and 2nd JMM/Pac fights...if the one judge scored the first round correctly in the first fight Pac would've won. And one judge had it 115-112 JMM in the 2nd, one had it the same score but for Pac. And the last judge had it 113-112 for Pac. So, had JMM not been knocked down in the 3rd round the last judge would've had it 113-113 and we would've had another draw.

round by round
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-juan-manuel-marquez-manny-pacquiao

 

[bleach]

Originally Posted by Lightweight Champion

Compubox numbers do lie though because they're cumulative stats. Meaning they add all the stats from every eound together. To fully analyze fights you gotta look at them on a round by round basis instead of cumulatively. But since we're going on how the judges scored the 1st and 2nd JMM/Pac fights...if the one judge scored the first round correctly in the first fight Pac would've won. And one judge had it 115-112 JMM in the 2nd, one had it the same score but for Pac. And the last judge had it 113-112 for Pac. So, had JMM not been knocked down in the 3rd round the last judge would've had it 113-113 and we would've had another draw.

round by round
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-juan-manuel-marquez-manny-pacquiao

 

[ace3han]

If Manny Pacquiao made a video calling Floyd the N word he would be banned immediately from the sport and probably stripped of all his titles. Floyd calls manny every single asian slur and it is a joke? He just wants attention?

 

[ace3han]

If Manny Pacquiao made a video calling Floyd the N word he would be banned immediately from the sport and probably stripped of all his titles. Floyd calls manny every single asian slur and it is a joke? He just wants attention?

 

[bleach]

 

[bleach]

 

[lightweight champion]

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by Lightweight Champion

Compubox numbers do lie though because they're cumulative stats. Meaning they add all the stats from every eound together. To fully analyze fights you gotta look at them on a round by round basis instead of cumulatively. But since we're going on how the judges scored the 1st and 2nd JMM/Pac fights...if the one judge scored the first round correctly in the first fight Pac would've won. And one judge had it 115-112 JMM in the 2nd, one had it the same score but for Pac. And the last judge had it 113-112 for Pac. So, had JMM not been knocked down in the 3rd round the last judge would've had it 113-113 and we would've had another draw.

round by round
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-juan-manuel-marquez-manny-pacquiao

You seem to not take in the fact that judges also base their decisions on how busy a fighter is. Punch stats, although very slightly favor Marquez, also show that Pac was busier in every round except the 8th. So you have to accept the fact that in the minds of many Pac did steal a few rounds. Either way it was a great fight that could've gone either way but the KD was the deciding factor.

 

[lightweight champion]

Originally Posted by bleach

Originally Posted by Lightweight Champion

Compubox numbers do lie though because they're cumulative stats. Meaning they add all the stats from every eound together. To fully analyze fights you gotta look at them on a round by round basis instead of cumulatively. But since we're going on how the judges scored the 1st and 2nd JMM/Pac fights...if the one judge scored the first round correctly in the first fight Pac would've won. And one judge had it 115-112 JMM in the 2nd, one had it the same score but for Pac. And the last judge had it 113-112 for Pac. So, had JMM not been knocked down in the 3rd round the last judge would've had it 113-113 and we would've had another draw.

round by round
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/view.php?pg=compubox-juan-manuel-marquez-manny-pacquiao

You seem to not take in the fact that judges also base their decisions on how busy a fighter is. Punch stats, although very slightly favor Marquez, also show that Pac was busier in every round except the 8th. So you have to accept the fact that in the minds of many Pac did steal a few rounds. Either way it was a great fight that could've gone either way but the KD was the deciding factor.

 

[wxyzfactor]

Originally Posted by Ace3han

If Manny Pacquiao made a video calling Floyd the N word he would be banned immediately from the sport and probably stripped of all his titles. Floyd calls manny every single asian slur and it is a joke? He just wants attention?

True.  That's the way things in society are.  There's always a double standard to racism, especially when its minorities being racist to each other. 

If it was a white boxer making that kind of racist rant saying "collard greens, fried chicken, and watermelon" against a black boxer it would be considered racism and would be taken seriously.  There also would be more uproar with the NAACP, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and numerous organizations in the media denouncing it.

But if its racism between minorities, especially against Asians its treated the opposite way.  It's not considered racism and not taken seriously and treated as a joke.  There is barely any uproar and barely any organizations denouncing it.

  

 

[wxyzfactor]

Originally Posted by Ace3han

If Manny Pacquiao made a video calling Floyd the N word he would be banned immediately from the sport and probably stripped of all his titles. Floyd calls manny every single asian slur and it is a joke? He just wants attention?

True.  That's the way things in society are.  There's always a double standard to racism, especially when its minorities being racist to each other. 

If it was a white boxer making that kind of racist rant saying "collard greens, fried chicken, and watermelon" against a black boxer it would be considered racism and would be taken seriously.  There also would be more uproar with the NAACP, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and numerous organizations in the media denouncing it.

But if its racism between minorities, especially against Asians its treated the opposite way.  It's not considered racism and not taken seriously and treated as a joke.  There is barely any uproar and barely any organizations denouncing it.

  

 

[bleach]