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TWO X-MEN TV SHOWS IN DEVELOPMENT: "LEGION" AT FX, "HELLFIRE" AT FOX


Fox currently has two X-Men-based series in development for theirs channels, as revealed Wednesday afternoon by The Hollywood Reporter.


"Legion," featuring Charles Xavier's son from Marvel Comics lore, is in development at cable network FX, with "Fargo" showrunner Noah Hawley on board as a producer. Here's the premise, as reported by THR: "The Legion pilot introduces the story of David Haller, a boy who may be more than human. Since he was a teenager, has struggled with mental illness. Diagnosed as schizophrenic, David has been in and out of psychiatric hospitals for years. But after a strange encounter with a fellow patient, he’s confronted with the possibility that the voices he hears and the visions he sees might be real."

"Hellfire," based on longtime X-villains The Hellfire Club, is in the works at the Fox broadcast network, developed for TV by Evan Katz & Manny Coto ("24") and Patrick McKay & John D. Payne (who worked on an earlier version of the "Star Trek Beyond" screenplay). The show is said to "follow a young special agent who learns that a power-hungry woman with extraordinary abilities is working with a clandestine society of millionaires -- known as 'The Hellfire Club' -- to take over the world."

"We are thrilled to partner with Marvel to bring this world to television and build upon the vibrant mythology that has captivated fans for years," Fox Broadcasting Co. President David Madden is quoted in the THR article. "These powerful and dynamic characters are complicated and larger-than-life, the pace and visual imagination are unrelenting, and the story takes place during one of the most explosive eras in recent history. We are so looking forward to working with this incredibly talented team."
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They must've got that tv deal done with Marvel for this to be in development.

Shocked and impressed they'd do a show about Legion of all X characters. I'll give it a chance since it's on FX and they tend to come through with great shows more times than not.

A show about the Hellfire club though? That sounds like it should be on FX not Fox network. Hope it doesn't end up as bad as Gotham.
 
Damn. Those dummies infiltrating tv now. I don't know much about Legion or the Hellfire Club so I won't have complaints about the source material but will complain if the shows are crap.
 
wonder if they made that Deal with Marvel for them to sign off on the series... FF back ? :lol:
 
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Marvel is promoting this/posted some article on their site so I suppose some deal was made so FOX could be allowed to do tv shows now.

The next big Feige announcement may just be a F4 movie in 2020 :nerd:
 
‘X-Men’ Marvel TV Dramas Set: FX Orders ‘Legion’ Pilot, Fox Developing ‘Hellfire’


In a two-project kinbergagreement between Marvel and Fox Networks Group, FX and Fox are moving ahead with two TV dramas set in the world of X-Men, both executive produced by the film franchise’s director, Bryan Singer, producer Lauren Shuler Donner and Simon Kinberg as well as Marvel TV’s Jeph Loeb and Jim Chory. FX has given a pilot order to Legion, written/executive produced by Fargo creator Noah Hawley, while Fox has closed deals to develop the long-rumored Hellfire (working title), created by Evan Katz (24: Live Another Day), Manny Coto (24), Patrick McKay (Star Trek 3) and JD Payne (Star Trek 3).

Neither series has the X-Men branding though both are set in the same universe and both stem from 20th Century Fox’s Marvel deal for the rights to the X-Men franchise, which has spawned 11 movies, including several that are in the pipeline. The deals expand Marvel’s live-action TV footprint, adding to the company’s two existing series and a pilot at ABC and four series and a limited series at Netflix.

Legion introduces the story of David Haller: Since he was a teenager, David has struggled with mental illness. Diagnosed as schizophrenic, David has been in and out of psychiatric hospitals for years. But after a strange encounter with a fellow patient, he’s confronted with the possibility that the voices he hears and the visions he sees might be real. He’s based on the Marvel comics character Legion, the son of X-Men founder Charles Xavier (played by Patrick Stewart and James McAvoy in the films), first introduced in 1985.

Hawley will write the pilot and serve as an executive producer with Shuler Donner, Singer, Kinberg, Loeb, Chory and John Cameron (Fargo). The pilot for Legion will be produced by FX Productions and Marvel Television, with FXP handling the physical production.

“Legion is just the sort of ambitious story that Noah excels at,” FX’s Nick Grad said. “His adaption of Fargo for television was one of the most acclaimed television events in recent memory. It’s also an honor to partner with Marvel on Legion and to enlist such an accomplished team of Executive Producers to create this pilot.”

Set in the late 1960s, Hellfire, produced by 20th Century Fox TV and Marvel Television, with 20th Century Fox handling the physical production – follows a young Special Agent who learns that a power-hungry woman with extraordinary abilities is working with a clandestine society of millionaires – known as “The Hellfire Club” – to take over the world. A different version of The Hellfire Club was previously seen as the primary antagonists of X-Men: First Class, led by Kevin Bacon’s Sebastian Shaw.

“We are thrilled to partner with Marvel to bring this world to television and build upon the Fox Logovibrant mythology that has captivated fans for years,” said Fox Entertainment president David Madden. “These powerful and dynamic characters are complicated and larger-than-life, the pace and visual imagination are unrelenting, and the story takes place during one of the most explosive eras in recent history. ”

McKay and Payne will write the pilot script, based on a story by Katz, Coto, McKay and Payne. Shuler Donner, Singer and Kinberg executive produce with Marvel TV’s Jeph Loeb and Jim Chory will executive-produce the pilot, alongside Katz and Coto, who will serve as showrunners.
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The way it is contractually yes. It goes back to when Marvel was making the Mutant X show and it originally had a whole bunch of X-Men stuff and then FOX sued them. That ended up with the show having nothing to do with X-Men and Marvel kinda just bailed on making it a good show. So now if Marvel wanted to do another tv show they'd need FOX's okay so it wouldn't interfere with their movie plans even though FOX doesn't own tv rights and since Marvel does own that if FOX wanted to do the tv show they'd have to ask Marvel's permission and they'd have to okay it.

So far it seems Marvel tv (still under Perlmutter's purview) has okayed it and they're getting a cut money wise while not being involved with the show creatively.
 
Lots of details for Deadpool:


Via Collider

65 Things to Know About Deadpool:

They are absolutely breaking the fourth wall in the movie. Deadpool will talk to the viewer. He knows he’s in a movie. Screenwriters Rhett Reese & Paul Wernick said, “[T]he comics had given us the leeway to break the fourth wall, so in a way he’s just strangely omniscient, he can talk about the fact that he’s in a movie, he can talk about things that the character wouldn’t know and everyone around him is kind of like, ‘What are you talking about?’”

Deadpool references X-Men Origins: Wolverine by breaking the fourth wall and making fun of it. The movie disregards what happened in that film.

Cable was close to being in the film but they chose to wait until Deadpool was on his feet. It sounds like if they get to make a sequel Cable will be part of it.

On set they were already planning a post-credits scene that they consider “very cool.”

Stan Lee will have a cameo in the film.

Miller said that Colossus is the gateway drug into the rest of the X-Men universe and he plays the straight man to Deadpool.

David Fincher and James Cameron played a part in pushing the Deadpool script to the studio.

Ryan Reynolds was instrumental in shaping the script and gave plenty of notes. He was the one that wanted an origin story.

The film will not shy away from very graphic scenes and situations but doesn’t dwell on blood and guts. Reynolds said there are some “pretty racy, pretty hyper-violent things that happen in this movie and it’s been a lot of fun to shoot.”

The script is loaded with a number of pop culture references.

Morena Baccarin (Vanessa) will not have any powers in the film. If they get to make a sequel that’s when you’ll see them.

The Deadpool movie was a 48 day shoot with 15 days of second unit.

Some of the action scenes will embrace the R rating.

They’re aiming for 700 VFX shots but it could go up to 8-900.

The final Deadpool script is about 70% of the script that was leaked, “The same basic movie is there.”

The script was 6 years in the making. There were many different incarnations of it, including a PG-13 version.

Before the footage leaked and there was such a positive reaction to it, there wasn’t much hope of getting a Deadpool movie made. Ryan speculates now is the right time for a Deadpool movie to be made, with the influx of comic movies in the media, and not 5 years ago when people were first pushing for it.

According to Tim Miller, Ryan’s personality is very much like Deadpool’s.

Ryan Reynold’s Deadpool costume had a muscle layer underneath that had to be removed because Reynolds was “too ripped” and his own muscle plus the costume muscle made him look “too big.” So all the muscle we see in the film is “100% USDA Ryan Reynolds.”

As a nod to Liefeld, Deadpool has his pouches.

Deadpool is Pansexual according to Tim Miller.

A total of four hours were needed for Ryan Reynolds to get his complete makeup, and according to him it felt like “wearing a wet diaper on your face.”

Though they mostly stuck to the script, which had years to be refined, they did do some improv in some of the more comedic scenes, mostly because T.J. Miller cannot be tamed.

Deadpool does take place in the X-Men movie universe and as such fits into its larger timeline, and it is possible he might show up in the other movies. This affected how they wrote the script and what they were able to reference, such as the Blackbird and Professor X.

It was easier to put lesser known mutants in the movie, like Negasonic Teenage Warhead and Angel Dust, because it requires less approval and overhead for the larger X-Men Universe. Colossus required lots of approval and had to fit in the larger canon of the X-Men movieverse.

They were really devoted to getting the Deadpool costume right, which included his iconic white eyes for his mask. They film Ryan doing the action and doing all the same things without the mask, and then they add CGI animation to the shots with the mask to allow the mask to move and show the expressions. “You can’t promise Deadpool fans in the audience the authentic Deadpool and then give him a pair of pretty blue eyes.”

80s and 90s music is going to be a huge part of the movie.

Fox green-lit and dated the release of the movie before Tim and Ryan were told that they had the go ahead to make the film. They 100% attribute the green light to fan’s reaction to the leaked footage over social media, and feel they owe it to them to give them the best Deadpool movie possible.

The film will have plenty of Easter eggs might reference a number of other Fox mutants. While I’m not sure, we might see silhouettes of other characters.

The movie will feature a number of unusual songs. When Guardians of the Galaxy came out and featured that cool soundtrack, Reynolds said, “I did have a bit of a panic attack.” On set both Reynolds and Miller made it clear that the Deadpool script had its music cues in it years before Guardians was written.

Getting Ryan Reynolds’ Deadpool makeup just right was a challenge and many tests were done, not only because in the comics he is scarred in different ways, but because it was important for the studio that Reynolds remained recognizable and “attractive”, and “just not Freddy Krueger.”

Aside from Deadpool himself, the rest of the cast’s look was kept very grounded and realistic as to fit within the context of the movie. But he tried to give everyone an interesting look, a “silhouette” to recognize their characters.

With an R rating, there is more blood and gore, but they tried to keep it as realistic in scope as possible. “Deadpool does some really graphic stuff to people but it’s all quick and it doesn’t linger on them either, it’s much more about how he does things and how he’s dealing away and flipping on them.”

They have snuck in some references to other mutants out in the world throughout the film.

Ed Skrein’s character’s outfit (Ajax) is very different from what is in the comics. More streamlined and functional like a SWAT outfit then the glitzy metallic costume from the comics.

Skrein is a massive comic book fan so being able to do a movie like this is one of his dreams. He was also really drawn to the movie because it’s not your average comic book project, they are not doing something that’s been done before, but at the same time trying to push something that is faithful to the original comics.

Ajax is British in the movie, as opposed to Canadian like in the original comics.

Skrein describes the relationship between Ajax and Deadpool as a “revenge story from both sides.” And it changes through the course of the movie, who wants revenge on the other and for what. It’s a complicated balance for the characters, as their personalities are so very different.

Skrein was on location three weeks before shooting began, training two times a day with the stunt team. He also did different weapons training in London before arriving on location.

Ajax’s main cohort in the movie is Angel Dust (Gina Carano) with whom his character has a very close but ambiguous relationship.

They are trying to stay as close to the original Deadpool comic universe as they can.

There was a lot of work trying to keep what Deadpool looked like under wraps, trying to control the release schedule of costumes and first looks for the movie.

For a specific scene in the movie a Vancouver freeway was shut down for two weeks.

The mood on set has been really positive, with Ryan and Tim spearheading, exciting, and inspiring the cast and crew to try and make the best Deadpool movie possible.

Morena Baccarin was not familiar with Deadpool or comics in general before landing the role of Vanessa Carlisle. “She gets down and dirty and she’s not a victim, she’s not a damsel in distress.”

Her character really gets into the action in this film; she’s scrappy.

Colossus will be 7 ft. 6 inches in the film and to the actor on set is 6 ft. 8 and wore 8 inch heels to look the part on set.

Some of the test footage that leaked will be incorporated in the finished film but with finished effects. It will look infinitely better than the test footage.

The first act of the film shows Deadpool using guns. The third act shows him wielding katanas.

While the script leaked awhile back, that didn’t stop them from still using it. However, they did make some alterations.

Angel Dust isn’t in that many comic books so Gina Carano and the writers had to create her character from scratch. But she had a lot of fun with creating the character’s look, which includes yellow contact lenses.

She is the henchwoman to Ajax in the movie and has a fight scene with Colossus. When doing her fight scene in a junkyard she was more worried about spiders than anything regarding the actual stunts.

Brianna Hildebrand trained in Muay Thai for a few months in preparation for her role as Negasonic Teenage Warhead.

Hildenbrand’s shaved head and piercings were part of her personal look and were incorporated to her character.

Negasonic Teenage Warhead is relatively new addition to the script since it was greenlit.

Garrison Kane and Wire were almost in the movie.

They will not being doing the “voices in his head” like some of the later Daniel Way Deadpool comics and the Deadpool video game.

They filmed in Vancouver for tax breaks and rebates on local hires on VFX.

Some days shooting on location in Vancouver were so rainy that cranes were brought in to cover the working area.

Deadpool was filmed with digital cameras with no plan for 3D while filming.

The film was mostly shot on location with limited sound stage work.

The blending of CGI and practical effects is really complicated and the VFX team was doing breakdowns for each fight scene and what was needed for each shot well before they actually started shooting the movie.

Because of the R rating they were able to make the action scenes much more brutal then what you would see in a PG-13 movie.

Though they wanted to keep the feel of a superhero movie, they tried to keep the moves and action of the fight sequences very grounded in reality.

While Ryan is very involved in the stunts, because of the nature of Deadpool’s fight moves and stunts, they are using a lot of doubles for the action sequences. This is made easier by the fact that Deadpool is in a mask, but they have tried to make it as seamless and possible.
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RobinVanDamn said:
Those cues were in the OG leaked script iirc

"X Gon' Give It To Ya" is cued up before a shootout and the Gwen Stafani track was in the script too.

http://www.adventuresinpoortaste.com/2012/02/28/deadpool-script-review-with-excerpts/
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I dont gather that the soundtrack was self referential from that review. Seems like just a soundtrack. Not like he was dancing to a song in the opening scene.

"We hear the first kick-*** notes of DMX’s ‘X Gon Give It to Ya.’ The kind of song that says ‘shooting spree.’"

Thank goodness. For a second I thought you were going to play Celine Dione in the shootout :rolleyes
 
y'all are impossible
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If I hear any Jackson 5 in Deadpool, Fox will really be dead to me. -_-

Let GotG have that only, please
 
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sunshineblotters said:
X3 and wolverine 1 aren't cannon to any timeline. Not explained in the movies but singer made that announcement a while back. Remove those movies from your brain.

The rest of the movies are in one damaged timeline or another.

Still doesn't make sense that "The wolverine" is still canon when X3 and Wolverine arent.
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They had flashbacks to both movies in DOFP tho
 
The Singer hate on NT makes me lol every time.


I'm still tryna figure out which one of the more terrible x-movies dude directed according to NT.

From where I'm sitting the only good movies of the franchise happen to be the only 3 (of 7 by the way) that Singer has actually directed :lol:


Dudes on every other site praise Singer as da gawd who began and then later swooped in and saved the dying franchise, NT considers homie the CEO of Fox :lol:


"Man, I just watched X-Men Origins again. Bryan Singer sucks."


P.S. First Class was dumb but McAvoy and Fassbender are Da Gawds
 
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