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Originally Posted by shoefreakbaby
Humility plays a very large role of Islam.Originally Posted by cap1229
It is the fastest growing religion. @%%% if it isnt a humble statement. It's a fact.
Originally Posted by tkthafm
Again, you claiming them to not be true/convincing etc means nothing. Plenty of others, including experts in their respective feels felt otherwise, many strongly enough to convert (already mentioned some). You aren't convinced. That's fine. There will always be non-believers, but this has no bearing on the legitimacy of the evidence provided.�
I can't provide a better "single evidence" than the Qur'an itself. It's a incomparable miracle on many different levels. Spare me the irrelevant pictures or oversimplifications of "you cant use the book saying its from God as evidence it's from God" .... because that's not what I'm doing. I'm looking at the content (linguistic/scientific/historical etc etc) and then making my conclusion. If a book is from God it must be perfect in every way correct ? I did my research and found this to be true for the Qur'an. There's still an element of faith, but no other religion on Earth can put forth as strong of a case, to the point where it actually becomes illogical to believe it's NOT divine. Just look at your inability to provide me with any reasonable alternative origin for the Qur'an. All of the ancient civilizations you mentioned never produced anything anywhere near the Qur'an alone. How could humans have possible came up with it ?�
If you watch this entire lecture with an open mind I don't see how you can still claim otherwise, unless you are�purposefully�refusing to admit you are wrong.
Originally Posted by cap1229
Originally Posted by shoefreakbaby
Humility plays a very large role of Islam.Originally Posted by cap1229
It is the fastest growing religion. @%%% if it isnt a humble statement. It's a fact.
Spare me. I personally don't give a %#*% about what Islam is about but is it NOT the fastest growing religion?
Originally Posted by shoefreakbaby
Originally Posted by Ballin
I Love You Silly Putty
BACK OFF
I've read more pro-christian material than you would believe.Originally Posted by RKO2004
The reason I said we are subject to change things because humans are the primary reason why so many suffer.
Putty you're a google master. Instead of looking up tools to refute my beliefs. Do some serious research for yourself with an open mind and heart. I can't answer all your questions. I wish I could but I don't have the answer to everything.
Open mind. Open heart.
Originally Posted by tkthafm
Again, you claiming them to not be true/convincing etc means nothing.
Plenty of others, including experts in their respective feels felt otherwise, many strongly enough to convert (already mentioned some).
You aren't convinced. That's fine. There will always be non-believers, but this has no bearing on the legitimacy of the evidence provided.�
I can't provide a better "single evidence" than the Qur'an itself.
It's a incomparable miracle on many different levels.
Spare me the irrelevant pictures or oversimplifications of "you cant use the book saying its from God as evidence it's from God" .... because that's not what I'm doing.
Thats EXACTLY what you just did.
I'm looking at the content (linguistic/scientific/historical etc etc) and then making my conclusion.
Linguistics doesn't prove that there is an Islamic version of a god.
Some of us still speak hebrew and the ancient languages that predated islam and arabic, does that make their gods more likely to exist?
If a book is from God it must be perfect in every way correct ?
Thats subjective. We give "god" the qualities of being "perfect"
Its entirely reasonable that god may be an "imperfect" entity.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I did my research and found this to be true for the Qur'an.
But you assigned YOUR PREFERENCES for beauty and perfection and ascribed it as fact.
Thats not an objective and measurable quality.
One meter is One meter. We define one meter as the distance light travels in a vacuum in 1
HOW?.....Originally Posted by sillyputty
How did we build the pyramids?...WE JUST BUILT THEM!
I have read everything in this thread. It's an interesting debate. Even the longest post by silly putty only takes a few minutes, if that, to read though. Some topics, like one on religion, SHOULD be thorough. It would be a damn shame to oversimplify something as big as the topic of religion. I really should be using this time to study thoughOriginally Posted by NobleKane
wow i dont think ive ever seen a longer post than the one silly putty typed on one of them last pages in this thread. jesus christ(no offense to anyone in here) i would never waste my time typing that much because most likely nobody is going to read it because its too long and its probably something likely stated already in this thread.
damn you guys are stubborn
Name any proven miracle in the Quran.Originally Posted by tkthafm
So your explanation for the Qur'an and all it's proven miracles (evidences) is that it .... just happened ?
Powerful argument. I don't even know how to refute this logic.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to your response to the video though not expecting much more than poor logic, ignoring evidences and bad graphs .gif .jgp images.
*ahem*
You were the one that said Jews and christians and everyone that came before them were actually Muslims.
What a brilliant and profound conclusion.
BRB, learning that I'm actually a muslim.
was a personal attack necessary?Originally Posted by AKA LONGSTROKE
He's illiterate, can't you tell? Therefore, he does not understand that there are capable people on this forum, then in this thread.Originally Posted by Boys Noize
I have read everything in this thread. It's an interesting debate. Even the longest post by silly putty only takes a few minutes, if that, to read though. Some topics, like one on religion, SHOULD be thorough. It would be a damn shame to oversimplify something as big as the topic of religion. I really should be using this time to study thoughOriginally Posted by NobleKane
wow i dont think ive ever seen a longer post than the one silly putty typed on one of them last pages in this thread. jesus christ(no offense to anyone in here) i would never waste my time typing that much because most likely nobody is going to read it because its too long and its probably something likely stated already in this thread.
damn you guys are stubborn
Perhaps is Silly wrote in the THE CAT IN THE HAT rhyming style, he'd get it.
With this logic, your defying of rationality, and your inability to provide evidence that the Quran in fact comes from Allah it being divine is just as likely as it being extraterrestrial. So where you say it came from GOD I can say it came from aliens.Originally Posted by tkthafm
Again, you claiming them to not be true/convincing etc means nothing. Plenty of others, including experts in their respective feels felt otherwise, many strongly enough to convert (already mentioned some). You aren't convinced. That's fine. There will always be non-believers, but this has no bearing on the legitimacy of the evidence provided.�
I can't provide a better "single evidence" than the Qur'an itself. It's a incomparable miracle on many different levels. Spare me the irrelevant pictures or oversimplifications of "you cant use the book saying its from God as evidence it's from God" .... because that's not what I'm doing. I'm looking at the content (linguistic/scientific/historical etc etc) and then making my conclusion. If a book is from God it must be perfect in every way correct ? I did my research and found this to be true for the Qur'an. There's still an element of faith, but no other religion on Earth can put forth as strong of a case, to the point where it actually becomes illogical to believe it's NOT divine. Just look at your inability to provide me with any reasonable alternative origin for the Qur'an. All of the ancient civilizations you mentioned never produced anything anywhere near the Qur'an alone. How could humans have possible came up with it ?�
If you watch this entire lecture with an open mind I don't see how you can still claim otherwise, unless you are�purposefully�refusing to admit you are wrong.
Originally Posted by NjCollector
Sillyputty:longstroke
Amirite?
Originally Posted by NobleKane
Originally Posted by NjCollector
Sillyputty:longstroke
Amirite?
I thought so at first. they both like to belittle who they speak to but silly putty is not as bad. silly putty actually makes good points but longstroke just makes stuff up.
also silly putty doesnt threaten you via pm
Originally Posted by NjCollector
Sillyputty:longstroke
Amirite?
Originally Posted by sillyputty