Haitian Jack (Strange but possibly true tales in hip hop)

I remember doing my research on all of this a couple of years ago (around 09 I think) from just wanting to learn about Pac. I admired what he stood for, and the things he was willing to say despite being in the position he was in. Definitely stayed true for the most part, and I had nothing but respect for that/him. I had read all the interviews, listened to interviews, any and everything I could find. I had listened to all of the Pac albums from intro to outro except for one. "Don Killuminati: 7 Day Theory". When I listened to that album, it was raining hard and thunder-storming. I had just got done :smokin with this fat white girl and her sister and was glad to be leaving from there lol....and I drove until the album ended and began to tear up. I don't even know why, but it was like I was able to fully understand everything. Everything made sense, and I was just shocked at how Pac kept it so real down to the last song on his last album. It was just crazy!
 
gotJz said:
I remember doing my research on all of this a couple of years ago (around 09 I think) from just wanting to learn about Pac. I admired what he stood for, and the things he was willing to say despite being in the position he was in. Definitely stayed true for the most part, and I had nothing but respect for that/him. I had read all the interviews, listened to interviews, any and everything I could find. I had listened to all of the Pac albums from intro to outro except for one. "Don Killuminati: 7 Day Theory". When I listened to that album, it was raining hard and thunder-storming. I had just got done
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with this fat white girl and her sister and was glad to be leaving from there lol....and I drove until the album ended and began to tear up. I don't even know why, but it was like I was able to fully understand everything. Everything made sense, and I was just shocked at how Pac kept it so real down to the last song on his last album. It was just crazy!
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how did dude stay true when he was perpetrating a lifestyle he had not previously been part of?
 
I was looking at the same article a couple days ago. Did Foxy on Combat spark your research?
 
Interesting read. Good post OP. It would be cool to hear from cats who survived that eras point of view when asked about people like HJ and co.
 
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This New York Sports & Entertainment scene is deep a lot of these rappers/athletes be getting leaned on hence why you always see dudes rolling 20 deep and why there is hip hop police
 
Chuck Finster said:
It ain't common knowledge, but yeah if you know anything about BIG/Pac Quad city shooting East West beef you've probably heard stories about Haitian Jack.

Not too long ago someone posted that exact same story you did actually. :lol:

If anything less is known about King Tut who was apparently also a stick up kid/shakedown artist that ran with them N's too. That **** was wild.
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This. I remember the post about this from two years ago around this time. Haitian Jack gave absolutely no dambs.

MrDoeBoI said:
This New York Sports & Entertainment scene is deep a lot of these rappers/athletes be getting leaned on hence why you always see dudes rolling 20 deep and why there is hip hop police
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Any stories about this happening to any rappers/athletes in NYC recently? I'm not doubting or hating, just looking for some info :pimp:
 
Any stories about Jay Z p? Find it odd he was never really connected with much ****.
 
RoOk said:
Any stories about Jay Z p? Find it odd he was never really connected with much ****.
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Jacques Agnant, aka "Haitian Jack," (first photo, directly above) is a Harlem based music manager as well as an famous gangsta who has aligned himself with a lot of people and is very feared on the streets. "He wasn't afraid to run up on anyone."


According to Derrick Parker (Hip-Hop Cop). Jack once told him, "My thing is robbing drug dealers because they aren't going to call the police." Also, Jack allegedly took merchandise by force from a Los Angeles jeweler.

Haitian Jack was also flamboyant, adorning himself with gold chains and furs and always driving the finest Mercedes sedans. Jack flaunted his close relationships with rappers like Tupac, hit all the celebrity parties and was reputed to be friendly with Madonna. Parker says, "Jack's music biz contacts and activities (he's also managed various rappers at times) give him an additional outlet for his criminal pursuits."

Parker adds, "Jack continues his one-man assault right up to today: He allegedly shot a patron at a Los Angeles nightclub.

Jack was also rumored to have stepped to Jay-Z and tried to pin the rapper against a wall until others intervened. Jack thought Jay had disrespected him earlier." No repercussions were forthcoming
 
bilboshmangins said:
RoOk said:
Any stories about Jay Z p? Find it odd he was never really connected with much ****.
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Jacques Agnant, aka "Haitian Jack," (first photo, directly above) is a Harlem based music manager as well as an famous gangsta who has aligned himself with a lot of people and is very feared on the streets. "He wasn't afraid to run up on anyone."


According to Derrick Parker (Hip-Hop Cop). Jack once told him, "My thing is robbing drug dealers because they aren't going to call the police." Also, Jack allegedly took merchandise by force from a Los Angeles jeweler.

Haitian Jack was also flamboyant, adorning himself with gold chains and furs and always driving the finest Mercedes sedans. Jack flaunted his close relationships with rappers like Tupac, hit all the celebrity parties and was reputed to be friendly with Madonna. Parker says, "Jack's music biz contacts and activities (he's also managed various rappers at times) give him an additional outlet for his criminal pursuits."

Parker adds, "Jack continues his one-man assault right up to today: He allegedly shot a patron at a Los Angeles nightclub.

Jack was also rumored to have stepped to Jay-Z and tried to pin the rapper against a wall until others intervened. Jack thought Jay had disrespected him earlier." No repercussions were forthcoming
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I read about Jack a few years ago and found it interesting how he was working for the government the whole time feeding them information but he was still involved in the streets.
What's need to be asked is 'where is Jack now?' the government claims not to know for sure where he's at but they believe he's in his native country of Haiti but no on is certain of that.He just up and vanishes from everyone.
 
[h2]Shawn Pen Speaks On Tupac Shakur's 1994 Quad Studios Shooting[/h2]
DX:  Let’s hold off on getting to the present state of mind you’re in. We gotta cover some ground that comes up I’m sure in every interview you do. So just hold tight with me. We gotta go through it though. We talked about Biggie, and you know any talk about Biggie leads to talk of Tupac, and vice versa. So is there anything you still wanna say 17 years later about the Quad Studios attack on ‘Pac that some people still tie you to as part of the setup?

Shawn Pen:  You know what’s crazy? I’ve never spoken about it. 

DX:  Oh, you haven’t? Oh, okay, I thought you had.

Shawn Pen:  Never. That was one of the things that really turned me off to the game. See, because … I met ‘Pac through [Haitian] Jack. Jack had a barbershop back then. And then next door to the barbershop was a bar in Queens called Manhattan Proper. And, you know, we’d be at the barbershop every day hangin’ out. Tuesday nights, we went next door. So Jack was known for bringing a bunch of celebrities through there. He had Madonna there, he had Tupac there, he had Shabba Ranks there, he had Buju Banton, he had the dude that Caine stomped out in [Menace II Society]. [Laughs] So you could see Jack with anybody at that time. He was always outgoing, traveling, and everybody [clung] to him.

So, Andre Harrell was doing New York Undercover  at the time, and he wanted Tupac to be on New York Undercover. So Jack was like, “Yo, well, him and Shawn could make a record.” Tupac is still one of my favorite artists because of his delivery and his songwriting capability. I didn’t really get into him personally after hangin’ out with him, because – Like I said, man, I was really [in the streets, and] when you hear these songs with all this fire and vigor, and [then] you meet the person … And, me and Jack really didn’t get along. Internally, we’d argue all the time. I’m a spoiled brat, and I’m rebellious, so I can’t really just go along with anything. And I stayed around and watched them interact a lot, and I watched Tupac get spoken to certain ways and I ain’t respect that. So I was more or less turned off [to working with Tupac], but then you’re like, “Okay.” Andre’s in my ear and he’s like, “Yo, this could be great for you, man. I’m telling you ….” And I had “Dom Perignon” out at the time, so I agreed to do the studio session. Bryce Wilson from Groove Theory was producing the track.

So, when Tupac comes off the elevator shot – Now, when you have things like that that happen, if you have any knowledge of the street and something like that happens on your watch and you can’t explain it and you don’t know where it came from and you can’t put your finger on it and you wasn’t down with it, that’s a violation of you. It’s just like if you come to my crib, if you come to my house, I invite you to my crib, you eating, you’re having a good time, and you come outside and get shot on my doorstep, that’s a violation of me. So whoever did that disrespected me, not you. It’s - 

DX:  [Interrupts] Not to cut you off there, but I have to ask, I mean, did you go to Jimmy Henchman afterwards like, you know, “What the ****?”

Shawn Pen:  You know what? I wouldn’t ask him that, just assuming that he would have more respect for me then to do that at that particular time. If you had a problem with dude, you don’t use me as no pawn. So this is why I never believed he had anything to do with it, because I just don’t think that he would do that to me! Not to him. 

See, when you dealing with street dudes, man, there’s a whole ‘nother mentality that the average person can’t understand. It’s just like that whole snitching thing. Yo, dude, if your mother gets mugged, and she’s never done anything illegal, and she’s worked all her life and she’s retired, and she gets mugged and she goes and picks out [her mugger from a lineup], that’s not [snitching]. She’s not a rat. She’s not snitching. Like, she’s not a criminal, how could she be accused of snitching? So you got a bunch of people talking about that that don’t know anything about that. And I don’t respect that. I - 

DX:  [Interrupts] So again, not to cut you off, but I have to ask, this Dexter Isaac cat, he’s a -  

Shawn Pen:  [Interrupts] I don’t even know who that is! I don’t even know who that is. I have no idea who that dude is. 

So, you know, I’ve never spoken about it, ever. I’m the only one, as far as I know, that got questioned by the police – in Andre’s office, with Andre. And they were asking me like, “Yo, we heard that you were jealous of him as an artist, and you were jealous of him because he had money.” And, one thing about [me], once you start talking crazy, I’m done. And that was the end of the interview, because that’s ridiculous. You fishing. 

DX:  We gotta note that Tupac himself never mentions you in “Against All Odds.” 

Shawn Pen:  No, no, no, not true. I heard the demo. I used to hang out at Def Jam [Records] a lot back then, and somebody had handed me a cassette of that song. And, yeah, he had mentioned me on the record. And when it came out, guess what? That’s the only thing that was taken off. 

DX:  Any theories about why you think he might’ve done that?

Shawn Pen:  I mean, I don’t know. I don’t know. I was just happy that was done. I don’t wanna be referred to in any derogatory [fashion]. If you know anybody in New York, anybody in the game, they’ll tell you I got a crazy temper. Not so much anymore. [Chuckles] I’m a little different, but … you know, I couldn’t lay down on that one. So I was happy that was taken off.

Then, at that time, Uptown/MCA folded. Then all the artists were left in limbo, and they were kinda shuffled over [directly] to MCA [Records]. And, I ain’t really wanna stay there, so Puff was trying to get me a deal. So Puff was trying to get Jermaine [Dupri] to sign me at the time. And I was like [hesitant about that]. And then, one day Puff came and was like, “You know, I might wanna come to the table, but I gotta make sure it’s okay with my staff. You ain’t the easiest person to work with, [so] I wanna make sure everybody’s comfortable.” And, Biggie played a major role in that, and he was trying to get me to sign. But at that time, Suge [Knight] was on Puff’s ***. And, if you were affiliated with me in any way, I come with Brooklyn. So, I always thought that, you know, there was something fishy in Puff’s motive. Biggie was genuine, but he didn’t understand. And then I had my friends out here wanting me to do it just ‘cause it was Puff and Bad Boy, and that was the biggest label. But again, man, I wasn’t – like, I didn’t feel it. I just feel like I was being used. But, neither here nor there, man, everything happens for a reason. 
 
Back in the late 80's and early 90's gangstas didn't want to be rappers, they wanted to extort rappers.

Thecoldest343 said:
I read about Jack a few years ago and found it interesting how he was working for the government the whole time feeding them information but he was still involved in the streets.
What's need to be asked is 'where is Jack now?' the government claims not to know for sure where he's at but they believe he's in his native country of Haiti but no on is certain of that.He just up and vanishes from everyone.
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Probably in Witsec
 
50 Cent mentions Haitian Jack in the song "50 Bars"

Since we're on the subject of gangsters in hip-hop. Does anyone know the history of the people that 50 Cent talks about in "50 Bars"
 
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