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not necessarily
an ep credit doesn't always mean that
HBO Michael Jackson doc 'Leaving Neverland'
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an ep credit doesn't always mean that
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Thriller era Mike was every bit as big as the Beatles and Elvis...I can’t think of a modern artist that he’d even be comparable to honestly...
Overall theme between RK, Weinstein, and Mike is that with enough money and influence a person can literally get away with all kinds of sick stuff for prolonged periods of time...
Overall theme between RK, Weinstein, and Mike is that with enough money and influence a person can literally get away with all kinds of sick stuff for prolonged periods of time...
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This is a well known story but here's the question I've always had:
Doesn't this characterization of MJ as this genius dude with ruthless business acumen contradict the popular theory that "oh he was a pure innocent child himself so nothing suspect could have happened with these kids"?
Just a thought
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I was telling my wife
If this is all true then why come back to it?? It looks bad on the accusers to do this NOW.
I don't know if either of these men are married or have kids of their own but if they are truly victims at a extremely young age, id like to think they went to some serious therapy and got help.
I watched half of the first episode and the details are crazy graphic that I was telling my wife that to do this now and go on TV of all places instead of some intense healing and therapy just looks bad.
Why would you put your family through all this?
Put out there that MJ graphically abused you like that??? Work on yourself and get well for your family/kids.
Also I find it odd that one of them still had the rings MJ had given him as presents to signify their relationship and favors they were doing to each other
If they went to actual therapy the first thing they would've worked through would be getting rid of that ish in particular so they could let go and heal.
I've been to therapy for my recovery and I had a huge shot glass collection, guess what the first thing my therapist made me get rid of.....
Something is not adding up to me.
Really hope at some episode in the future, therapy and healing are part of their lives now. Because this right here is counter productive to both their well beings assuming all of this went down.
HBO really went through with this, pretty crazy because this is graphic as hell
If this is all true then why come back to it?? It looks bad on the accusers to do this NOW.
I don't know if either of these men are married or have kids of their own but if they are truly victims at a extremely young age, id like to think they went to some serious therapy and got help.
I watched half of the first episode and the details are crazy graphic that I was telling my wife that to do this now and go on TV of all places instead of some intense healing and therapy just looks bad.
Why would you put your family through all this?
Put out there that MJ graphically abused you like that??? Work on yourself and get well for your family/kids.
Also I find it odd that one of them still had the rings MJ had given him as presents to signify their relationship and favors they were doing to each other
If they went to actual therapy the first thing they would've worked through would be getting rid of that ish in particular so they could let go and heal.
I've been to therapy for my recovery and I had a huge shot glass collection, guess what the first thing my therapist made me get rid of.....
Something is not adding up to me.
Really hope at some episode in the future, therapy and healing are part of their lives now. Because this right here is counter productive to both their well beings assuming all of this went down.
HBO really went through with this, pretty crazy because this is graphic as hell
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or the beatles were just as dumb as a bag of rocks
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If you read the story you know that Mike maneuvered his way into owning that catalog like a boss.
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For those in the cancelling business why wouldn't having sleepovers with little boys PERIOD , be enough to #CancelMJ ?
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No I know that
I’m just sayin
Plus he ain’t just own their catalog
He owned a percentage of Sony’s catalog as well
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Are victims not able to speak publicly WHILE also getting therapy?
Why are you presenting it as an either/or thing?
Also, I get what you are saying about, "When is a good time" but that ain't up to us to determine or question when the optimal time is to come out (again).
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Nah ain’t up to us ur right
But hell we can still judge it
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I would argue that just by virtue of who he is, MJ is immune to cancellation
Take that how you will
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Oh, I know.
I just want his defenders to simply admit his legacy/influence is too great for them to want to question his behavior .
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100% immune
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Let us find out that LeBron had sleepovers with Damon Jones Jr. or Zaire Wade, and sleeping in the same beds as them.
Yall would shame anybody that picked the Lakers in damn 2K.
But Mike gets to skate by.
Cool
Yall would shame anybody that picked the Lakers in damn 2K.
But Mike gets to skate by.
Cool
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Sidenote: both parts seem to be up on HBOGo.
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Or the other MJ was messing with kids at his Gatorade commercials.
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I've said this many times. If he was Mr. Jackson down the street ain't no parent ever letting their 10 year old boy have a sleepover at his house with no one else there. That's suspect af.
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According to the story, MJ didn’t do it out of spite. He gave some of the songs back to the estates of other artists who songs were included in the catalog such as Elvis’. He was a fan of the Beatles as well. Paul just underestimated Mike’s power and wealth at the time and thought if the company couldn’t get a buyer he could get back the song rights for cheap.
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Magic Johnson point
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This was a full-sized painting in MJ's home. Thoughts? Red flag or nah?
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This was a full-sized painting in MJ's home. Thoughts? Red flag or nah?
Everything is a red flag NOW. But if you saw that in his crib in 1985 without context, you'd probably just be like yeah that's a little odd.
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That is a very European painting there
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Finished Part One last night (probably should've went to bed) but wow. The details the two went into were crazy.
Did anyone from his family have any concern of his interest with wanting to hang out with kids all the time?
Did anyone from his family have any concern of his interest with wanting to hang out with kids all the time?
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You kind of intentionally missed my point.
I didn’t make that comment to say that it invalidated their claims.
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I know. You just seemed surprised that the kids would be jealous that someone that abused them was now rejecting them socially.
Just saying that it's not unrealistic in these scenarios, despite how whacky it seems on the surface.
