Hide Ya Wives, Hide Ya Kids: Worldwide Coronavirus Pandemic!

[s3p4tu]

Im sure CDC decision is somewhat driven by pressure from businesses with shortage workers, disrupting their business operations, etc.
ONLY if everybody follow the freakin rule from the get go, we won't be in this mess.
Omicron won't be the last.
I am patiently waiting for the next booster.

 

[Mark Antony]

CDC does these things under pressure that they'll never be able to get back like saying you don't need masks in certain instances when the vaccines just dropped. They have this crazy optimistic view of the American public and i'm not sure where it comes from.

 

[ii flash ii]

We have to follow the CDC guidelines, isn’t this how it works? They’re clueless

 

[703 hwy]

Being sick is expensive for OTC meds. Just took my temp 100.5 to 100.8.

 

[Upptempo]

As someone who was pro-vaxx, what exactly was the purpose of it if everyone with it is still getting omicron? If you're young and low risk with underlying issues you had basically 1% chance of dying if you caught it without the vaccine, so the vaccine essentially did nothing to stop people from getting the virus. Seems like all the recent cases in people I personally know were vaccinated people.

 

[ballinsam23]

Being sick is expensive and eating healthy is expensive.

MERICA

 

[05fordgt]

05fordgt Do you still wear mask when you are outside? Like for example walking at the park or outdoor picnic?

It depends on the closeness of people and the amount of people. I frankly don't go "walking at the park" or do any "outdoor picnics". Where I live, there is a walking trail and this time of the year it's basically void of people due to the weather (I'm in SE PA so it's cold). And I don't have outdoor picnics with people.

And when I am outside, I'm not that close to people anyhow. Most things my wife and I do were Cars & Coffee events, taking one of her cars or my car to a meet and waking around. Nice thing with this is no one crowds people or stands over them. Now that the car stuff has subsided due to the winter months, we'll see what the variants are like come spring when people get their cars back out from storage and such. But I will wear it outside if I deem it necessary.

 

[Nawzlew]

As someone who was pro-vaxx, what exactly was the purpose of it if everyone with it is still getting omicron? If you're young and low risk with underlying issues you had basically 1% chance of dying if you caught it without the vaccine, so the vaccine essentially did nothing to stop people from getting the virus. Seems like all the recent cases in people I personally know were vaccinated people.

The primary function of the vaccine isn't to stop you from getting it, it's to prevent severe disease that could lead to hospitalization. We've had the vaccine for nearly a year now, dealt with Alpha, Delta, and now dealing with Omicron. If you still haven't understood that, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[RustyShackleford]

As someone who was pro-vaxx, what exactly was the purpose of it if everyone with it is still getting omicron? If you're young and low risk with underlying issues you had basically 1% chance of dying if you caught it without the vaccine, so the vaccine essentially did nothing to stop people from getting the virus. Seems like all the recent cases in people I personally know were vaccinated people.

The purpose of a vaccine isn't just prevention of infection. Goes beyond that

The vaccine with boosters are preventing server illness, that will save lives and trips to the hospital

Not everyone that will get sick with Covid will be young
Not everyone that gets sick will be without comorbidities

It is hard for me to question the purpose of vaccines because by the numbers we are seeing, vaccines and boosters are probably doing a ton of good, including saving lives

 

[Mark Antony]

We're coming up on 2022. 2022. Still those kinda questions.

 

[703 hwy]

This time around the hospitals aren’t bursting at the seams. That’s mainly due to the vaccine. If we didn’t have a vaccine at the speed this variant is traveling there would be a lot of dead people.

 

[crazy ebw]

Statements like that and being "pro vaccine" continue to prove that people didn't do enough research prior to getting the vaccine anyways, and will only fuel people to not get boosters without knowing better.

 

[wallyhopp]

As someone who was pro-vaxx, what exactly was the purpose of it if everyone with it is still getting omicron? If you're young and low risk with underlying issues you had basically 1% chance of dying if you caught it without the vaccine, so the vaccine essentially did nothing to stop people from getting the virus. Seems like all the recent cases in people I personally know were vaccinated people.

I think it comes down to deaths and hospitalizations too. 80% of deaths in my area is of the unvaccinated. Nytimes has figures indicating the unvaccinated have a 13x chance of death than the vaccinated.

 

[elpablo21]

I think it’s good to remember there are a range of issues that ppl deal with between being asymptomatic and dying

 

[ballinsam23]

In a ideal scenario hes right. Point of vaccine is to prevent transmission. Only way that would work though is 100% vaccination rate (or close to it) in a span of 30
days. Not happening.

Variants are getting weaker. Good thing is, we’re probably 2-3 boosters away from having zero cases.

 

[Nawzlew]

In a ideal scenario hes right. Point of vaccine is to prevent transmission. Only way that would work though is 100% vaccination rate (or close to it) in a span of 30
days. Not happening.

Variants are getting weaker. Good thing is, we’re probably 2-3 boosters away from having zero cases.

Depends on your definition of weaker. Omicron is INCREDIBLY contagious and infectious. Yes, preliminary studies do show that symptoms seem to less severe (for now), but we are no where close to potentially seeing zero cases.

 

[Blake P]

As someone who was pro-vaxx, what exactly was the purpose of it if everyone with it is still getting omicron? If you're young and low risk with underlying issues you had basically 1% chance of dying if you caught it without the vaccine, so the vaccine essentially did nothing to stop people from getting the virus. Seems like all the recent cases in people I personally know were vaccinated people.

For the visual learners…

 

[KingParappa]

the damb apple store in the biggest mall here closed down right before xmas for that reason. not even sure if it's open again yet.

Tons of the apple stores are closing cause they cases in store is getting wild. 27 people called out yesterday from my store and I know at least 3 people with COVID that I work with.

 

[mplsdunk]

Just give me hella Chinese home test kits and some 5G and I’m living like I’m bulletproof at this point.

 

[americangenius]

christmas flight hot mess and airlines + whoever has the money got the CDC shook

plus the frontline health worker shortage

We have to follow the CDC guidelines, isn’t this how it works? They’re clueless

You guys don't trust the experts and the science behind this?

 

[ii flash ii]

You guys don't trust the experts and the science behind this?

Haven’t made up my mind… But leaning towards no

 

[mplsdunk]

delta gave the cdc a check.

 

[frink85]

You guys don't trust the experts and the science behind this?

I'm something of a scientist myself (lol) and I totally trust the experts. While I would rather err on the side of caution, the evidence shows that infectiousness from a positive person drops after a few days and folks who are vaccinated + masked up are relatively safe (as safe as someone can be in these trying times...)

At the same time the reality is that flights are delayed and shops/restaurants are closed up because of omicron so I'm sure they're under some pressure by non-scientists to ease up the guidelines and get these people back to work. It makes sense, and I get why, but I'd rather be more cautious. Can't stop the people with the money.

 

[frink85]

there was a long exposé article from Medscape last year regarding the f'ery of the CDC during the end of the dark days of Trump and the bootlicker yes people like Redfield (ex director) and Birx. Thankfully it seems like the people in charge now belong there, but politics and money will always be in the air.

 

[703 hwy]

Man this headache is the worse. Can’t get comfortable at all. I go to sleep and wake up and like only an hour has passed. Definitely sending that out of office email in the morning.