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Seen this on someones story, not quite sure what to make of it in the sense of…well isnt IMMUNITY meaning that it doesnt affect you? So how is it “stronger” than the vax?
 
That’s not to say that someone who has recovered has no protection or so-called “immunity” but it’s a high price to pay that comes with so much more risk than simply getting vaccinated.


Gotcha.

Guy that needs a heart transplant but doesn't wanna get jabbed to get is buggin. Welp, atlases that heart will go to someone smarter.
 
My first thoughts on the story picasso swerve picasso swerve posted:

1) this didn't look at boosters, which confer a large advantage. In recent head-to-head data, 3 shots + prior infection > 3 shots or 2 shots + prior infection > 2 shots or prior infection >>> anything else. This study is only looking at 2 shots or prior infection or nothing.



2) this didn't look at omicron, which has a very different profile than delta

3) I can see where some people are coming from -- if we have vaccine passports, should we have an exemption for prior infections? But it's very tricky. Only 1 in 3 cases of covid infection are actually documented, so it becomes a mess for how to track it all.

All that said, with "vaccinated" now coming to mean vaccine + booster, this study is a moot point.
 
How is this real life. You won't get a COVID vaccine because my body my choice, but are crying that you can't get a highly dangerous surgery with a new heart that isn't 100% guaranteed to work. Still a chance you could die from that. The mental gymnastics here are astounding.

Read my post just above yours(posted same time) for a good perspective from a fellow transplant patient.
 
The heart transplant and the immune suppressants he'll be on for the rest of his life are 1000x more dangerous, invasive, and experimental than the covid vaccine.

I'm very happy with this news. Someone more deserving will get the heart that was coming to him.

Your right on one of your points. The heart transplant, which is THE MOST serious of all organ transplants, has so many things that can go wrong during surgery, during recovery in the hospital and long after one is discharged from the hospital. Patients can't even be in the sun for very long and should use hats and even use an umbrella to keep the sun off. So many things to harm a patient.

The immunosuppressants that would be prescribed are pretty rock solid now. They're totally safe. It's if you miss a dose, that can be costly at the beginning. Once they get the patient on the proper regiment and dose, and monitor blood work for many weeks to see how the body is reacting to said medication, then it becomes a routine engraved in your mind to take every day. I got a nice large pill organizer I use twice a day. Nice thing is that pretty much all anti rejection medication is all generic now, so based on insurance, it's relatively cheap $10-30 depending on dose and if it's 30 or 90 days).

When I got my transplant back in 2003, NOTHING was generic except Prednisone, lol. And I took 16 pills in the morning and 6 at night back in the beginning (I take 11 & 5 now). And let me tell you, those meds were pricey even with good insurance back then. But eventually the patents ran out and allowed generics for basically all meds which is such a good thing. He really has no concept of reality and what he's really dealing with.

After having mine, I am doing EVERYTHING I need to do to not need another one as going in the first time I didn't know what to expect post surgery. Now, remembering all the pain I was in, all the lines I had hooked up to me, the blood bypass machine in my major arteries, and some 90 staples for the scar (which I dig) yeah, I don't want to go thought that crap again! 😞
 
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Man if y’all read into this the guy was taken off consideration for a heart transplant - also because to be eligible for transplant of any kind as far as I know you have to be vaccinated for EVERYTHING, not just covid. There are literally a ton of vaccines you have to have had and test negative for a number of things with the only exception being if your allergic to a certain vaccine

Knowing you got kids and a family the least you could have done is get vaccinated , even if you don’t believe it works or whatever you beliefs are just knowing your heart isn’t healthy do it for that reason so you’ll be eligible for transplant ,

This is heartbreaking , got an uncle who’s this idiotic , actually he’s even more idiotic than the “ anti vaxxers” his belief is god will cure all , not man made medications and vaccines, he’s one of those that believes in praying away any and all ailments. guy lives by himself and no one ever visits him.

God bless the family and this dude, I won’t wish anything bad on him but should have made better choices man, this is heartbreaking. Knowing you could die at any time especially with kids the least you could have done is go down to the CVS and get a shot, just so you’ll be eligible for the transplant.
I hope he makes it through for his kids sake
 
Was wondering if this was for 4th shot folks but see they'll have some unvaxxed volunteers
 
Your right on one of your points. The heart transplant, which is THE MOST serious of all organ transplants, has so many things that can go wrong during surgery, during recovery in the hospital and long after one is discharged from the hospital. Patients can't even be in the sun for very long and should use hats and even use an umbrella to keep the sun off. So many things to harm a patient.

The immunosuppressants that would be prescribed are pretty rock solid now. They're totally safe. It's if you miss a dose, that can be costly at the beginning. Once they get the patient on the proper regiment and dose, and monitor blood work for many weeks to see how the body is reacting to said medication, then it becomes a routine engraved in your mind to take every day. I got a nice large pill organizer I use twice a day. Nice thing is that pretty much all anti rejection medication is all generic now, so based on insurance, it's relatively cheap $10-30 depending on dose and if it's 30 or 90 days).

When I got my transplant back in 2003, NOTHING was generic except Prednisone, lol. And I took 16 pills in the morning and 6 at night back in the beginning (I take 11 & 5 now). And let me tell you, those meds were pricey even with good insurance back then. But eventually the patents ran out and allowed generics for basically all meds which is such a good thing. He really has no concept of reality and what he's really dealing with.

After having mine, I am doing EVERYTHING I need to do to not need another one as going in the first time I didn't know what to expect post surgery. Now, remembering all the pain I was in, all the lines I had hooked up to me, the blood bypass machine in my major arteries, and some 90 staples for the scar (which I dig) yeah, I don't want to go thought that crap again! 😞

I don’t recall knowing that you had a heart transplant before. Much respect sir.
 
I don’t recall knowing that you had a heart transplant before. Much respect sir.

Hey bud, thanks so much. Yup, I'm a transplant patient. Not a heart though. I had a liver transplant, which is #2 on the most severe list. It was back on 2003, but I'll always be on immunosuppressant medicine for my entire lifetime. This guy, I'm sorry, but he doesn't trust the vaccine but trusts the medicine and surgery that will save his life? Come on! 😞
 
Man if y’all read into this the guy was taken off consideration for a heart transplant - also because to be eligible for transplant of any kind as far as I know you have to be vaccinated for EVERYTHING, not just covid. There are literally a ton of vaccines you have to have had and test negative for a number of things with the only exception being if your allergic to a certain vaccine

Knowing you got kids and a family the least you could have done is get vaccinated , even if you don’t believe it works or whatever you beliefs are just knowing your heart isn’t healthy do it for that reason so you’ll be eligible for transplant ,

This is heartbreaking , got an uncle who’s this idiotic , actually he’s even more idiotic than the “ anti vaxxers” his belief is god will cure all , not man made medications and vaccines, he’s one of those that believes in praying away any and all ailments. guy lives by himself and no one ever visits him.

God bless the family and this dude, I won’t wish anything bad on him but should have made better choices man, this is heartbreaking. Knowing you could die at any time especially with kids the least you could have done is go down to the CVS and get a shot, just so you’ll be eligible for the transplant.
I hope he makes it through for his kids sake

If you want to read a good perspective from someone who had a transplant (liver)) go back a page see my post as I'm a transplant patient. This guy's story just defies the logic of science. 😞
 
If you want to read a good perspective from someone who had a transplant (liver)) go back a page see my post as I'm a transplant patient. This guy's story just defies the logic of science. 😞
Yeah I read , you’re really strong to have gone through that, much respect to you brother

Got a question, was it hard to get a transplant? I heard the wait list can be an insanely long time?
 
It jumped out to me that the vaxxed deaths are exactly 1 in a million - the classic phrase for something really unusual.

I guess to the deniers there’s no difference between 10,000 or a million - so I’d like to have a word with their payroll department…
Logic like this reminds me of an episode of The Atheist Experience where a caller argued with Matt Dillahunty that the existence of god is 50/50 because he either exists or he doesn't.

Matt Dillahunty responded "that's like saying you have a 50/50 chance of winning the lottery because you either win or you don't." :lol:
 
Yeah I read , you’re really strong to have gone through that, much respect to you brother

Got a question, was it hard to get a transplant? I heard the wait list can be an insanely long time?

Thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate it. To answer your question, was it hard? Yes, and a lot of it was also mentally exhausting and emotionally draining. The wait is long but that is why when one is put on the list that they undergo constant blood work to see how they are doing. That way they can move people who are more stable and in better shape down and move others who are holding on, up the list.

I have a friend who also needed a liver. But he was stable and not going into liver failure, and was in ok shape. Took him a long while (over a year I believe) as he didn't really go downhill like I did, and he could hold our while others who are in way worse shape for priority. It's all based on that and also available organs. Most come from donors who pass away. Some are living donors (kidney most often, though you can live donor a piece of liver as it does grow once implanted).

I was officially on the list Sept 2003 and I got the call October 7th 2003. A little over 30 days. By the end of September, my entire skin was yellow as were my eyes, and I could barely make it up the stairs to my room, so I slept on the couch (I was only 27 and still living at home) for weeks. I did still work every day at the dealership (don't even remember much of that anymore I was so sick), and actually sold a car to someone that night, went home and got the call at 12:30 in the morning. Those customers tuned out to be really nice people who always would check on me when they came for service.

I was incredibly lucky to get it as fast as I did. Lots of people don't make it. It's why I implore people to fill out the donor card on your license. When you die, your organs can save so many people and they do you no food once your gone. It was an amazing couple weeks after surgery & recovery, and was out of work for 12 weeks (though I had my parents drive to my dealership on our way home from the hospital the day I was discharged, to stop in and say hello & tell them I was okay), but being I was only 27, I healed quick and was able to do the Donor Dash 5K 6 months later (not my idea, as I don't run distance). Finished it so I felt pretty darn good. It was an eye opening experience and one that I readily share when asked. 👍
 
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