Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV
Since you are so sure that God does not exist....you should be able to provide an all-encapsulating definition of God, correct?
Can you please do that for us?
I never said I was sure that God doesn't exist. Can you read....I've said several times in this thread that I just don't know and nobody knows.
Strong agnosticism (also called "hard," "closed," "strict," or "permanent agnosticism")the view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of adeity or deities and the nature of ultimate reality is unknowable byreason of our natural inability to verify any experience with anythingbut another subjective experience. A strong agnostic would say, "Icannot know whether a deity exists or not, and neither can you."
Weak agnosticism (also called "soft," "open," "empirical," or "temporal agnosticism")the view that the existence or nonexistence of any deities iscurrently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable, therefore one willwithhold judgment until/if any evidence is available. A weak agnosticwould say, "I don't know whether any deities exist or not, but maybeone day when there is evidence we can find something out."
Apathetic agnosticism (also called
Pragmatic agnosticism)the view that there is no proof of either the existence ornonexistence of any deity, but since any deity that may exist appearsunconcerned for the universe or the welfare of its inhabitants, thequestion is largely academic.[sup][
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Agnostic atheismthe view of those who do not claim to
know of the existence of any deity, but do not
believe in any.[sup]
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Agnostic theism (also called "spiritual agnosticism")the view of those who do not claim to
know of the existence of any deity, but still
believe in such an existence.
Ignosticismthe view that a coherent definition of a deity must be put forwardbefore the question of the existence of a deity can be meaningfullydiscussed. If the chosen definition isn't coherent, the ignostic holdsthe
noncognitivist view that the existence of a deity is meaningless or empirically untestable.
A.J. Ayer,
Theodore Drange,and other philosophers see both atheism and agnosticism as incompatiblewith ignosticism on the grounds that atheism and agnosticism accept "adeity exists" as a meaningful proposition which can be argued for oragainst. An ignostic cannot even say whether he/she is a theist or anontheist until a better definition of theism is put forth.[sup]
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[/h2]I consider myself a strict agnostic.
