Israel declares War - Destruction of Gaza / Growing conflict in Middle East

[DripNick]

 

[ahat]

 

[jape]

 

[IATT]

 

[DLF]

Now internet and all power is gone. Its nighttime and there has been reports of “unprecedented” bombing in the last 20 minutes

I think this is it. May see 20x times killing today than first 3 weeks combined.

 

[shibadekobe]

 

[tkthafm]

Now internet and all power is gone. Its nighttime and there has been reports of “unprecedented” bombing in the last 20 minutes

I think this is it. May see 20x times killing today than first 3 weeks combined.

First targeting journalists and their families now cutting off all communication to the outside world, it’s clear they are doing everything in their power to hide what they are doing from the outside world. They’ve been waiting for more American back up now it looks like the next phase of the massacre is gonna start.

The IDF has dropped thousands of bombs for going on 3 weeks now and yet despite all this “targeted bombing of hamas targets” hamas rockets are still being launched and hitting tel aviv as we speak. Total failure. They certainly succeeded in killing thousands of women and children though.

 

[ballinsam23]

Airstrikes wont penetrate these tunnels if thats the plan. Based on videos I've watched some of them go 50+ meters into the ground. There is a whole underground city in Gaza.

Ground invasion is the only way to minimize casualties at this point if the plan is to eradicate Hamas.

The rockets are being launched from these tunnels and then hidden. Hamas engineers know what theyre doing.

 

[shibadekobe]

ISRAELI MILITARY SPOKESMAN SAYS GROUND FORCES ARE EXPANDING THEIR OPERATIONS TONIGHT

ISRAELI MILITARY SPOKESMAN SAYS WE CALL ON RESIDENTS OF GAZA CITY TO MOVE SOUTH

 

[tkthafm]

Let’s see if a real full force ground invasion actually happens.

Nasrallah looking at his 100-200,000 missiles and rubbing his hands together.

 

[ballinsam23]

Wont be full just yet. I'd say 10% max were sent in initially.

Its pretty interesting because last night and today is the Sabbath in current time Israel. So you know for sure they sent in the Muslim, Bedouin, and nonpracticing Jewish IDF soldiers first.

Either way I feel they are walking into a trap.

 

[tkthafm]

Isreal knew from the start that all the bombing they are doing is just killing civilians, that’s what makes it even more sick. Hamas is all underground. Israel knows that, yet they still wanted to satisfy their bloodlust by just killing innocents. Hamas has hundreds of miles of very sophisticated underground centers that cannot be destroyed by regular bombing. Hamas planned the attack for 2 years so they obviously expected an Israeli ground response and are well prepared for it.

 

[ahat]

 

[ballinsam23]

Isreal knew from the start that all the bombing they are doing is just killing civilians, that’s what makes it even more sick. Hamas is all underground. Israel knows that, yet they still wanted to satisfy their bloodlust by just killing innocents.

You know this is just flat out false right.

Hamas being all underground while their own are being used as shields is all you need to know about Hamas. Hamas doesnt care about the civilian Palestinians.

 

[heelsandeers]

Sort of amazing that the standard many hold for the Israeli government is that of Hamas

Israel is bombing civilians and knows it. Nothing remotely controversial about that statement

 

[ballinsam23]

I couldn't care less about the corrupt Israeli government.

No one here would ever willingly live in a country ruled by Hamas. But yes, lets root for Hamas. Hamas is the answer that'll lead to Palestinians not dying.

 

[heelsandeers]

But yes, lets root for Hamas.

amy schumer vibes

Believing 1000s of civilians shouldn't needlessly be killed =/= "rooting for Hamas"

 

[ballinsam23]

Rooting for Hamas = justifying what Hamas did was right though?

"The resistance" they call it. Am i doing this right?

Where did I say civilians being killed is right?

 

[moderndarwin]

Am i just confused or wrong? So the last election the Palestinian side had they actually ELECTED Hamas and since then there’s been no other political party that is the designated leadership?

Why hasn’t the Palestinians overthrown them since then it’s like 2M people there right i don’t get at all what is going on there.

Hamas rules Palestinians by fear
Israel hates Hamas because Hamas hates them
Israel wants Hamas gone

Why aren’t Palestinians working with Israelis to remove Hamas and then sort out a more peaceful two state solution. So confusing

 

[ahat]

Am i just confused or wrong? So the last election the Palestinian side had they actually ELECTED Hamas and since then there’s been no other political party that is the designated leadership?

Why hasn’t the Palestinians overthrown them since then it’s like 2M people there right i don’t get at all what is going on there.

Hamas rules Palestinians by fear
Israel hates Hamas because Hamas hates them
Israel wants Hamas gone

Why aren’t Palestinians working with Israelis to remove Hamas and then sort out a more peaceful two state solution. So confusing

Blowback: How Israel Went From Helping Create Hamas to Bombing It

Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.

theintercept.com

 

[ballinsam23]

Hamas rules Palestinians by fear
Israel hates Hamas because Hamas hates them
Israel wants Hamas gone

Why aren’t Palestinians working with Israelis to remove Hamas and then sort out a more peaceful two state solution.

You are making too much sense for the pro Hamas crowd. They'll blame Israel for creating these terrorists though.

It took the PLO decades to make peace only for violence to take over again.

Edit - yep exactly what I said. Like clockwork. Blame the Jew

 

[me love nutella]

You know this is just flat out false right.

Hamas being all underground while their own are being used as shields is all you need to know about Hamas. Hamas doesnt care about the civilian Palestinians.

This has been debunked so many times.

So does Ukraine use their citizens as human shields? Or this only ever is used against Middle Eastern groups/factions fighting the US/Israel?

From 2 years ago but still anyways relevant:


Then what does Hamas care for if they're just using human shields supposedly knowing they're dead too? Hamas just live there and operate from their territory in one of the most densely urban populated areas in the world.

Israel never gave an F and always bombed and targeted civilians left and right no matter what.

Here is an analogy, if a sleeper terrorist cell (i.e. some American army soldiers that went extremist rogue crazies) withheld your city hostage or a school hostage, should all of ya'll get bombed ?

 

[me love nutella]

Am i just confused or wrong? So the last election the Palestinian side had they actually ELECTED Hamas and since then there’s been no other political party that is the designated leadership?

Why hasn’t the Palestinians overthrown them since then it’s like 2M people there right i don’t get at all what is going on there.

Hamas rules Palestinians by fear
Israel hates Hamas because Hamas hates them
Israel wants Hamas gone

Why aren’t Palestinians working with Israelis to remove Hamas and then sort out a more peaceful two state solution. So confusing

They're the only group at the front vying for Palestinian statehood .

Also Hamas got popular off their charity programs and social services to the people.

Also, Hamas are not the only ones in this fight and are part of the alliance of Palestinian forces. It includes armed Communist and Socialist Palestinian armed factions. There's a list of them in alliance part of the resistance.

Also, Hamas can't hold elections and they're not an official government status like any other designated government. They're not allowed withholding elections. They didn't even get recognized when they got elected.

 

[ballinsam23]

Correct. Charity programs from Hamas to the Palestinian people. The hundreds of millions of dollars donated to infrastructure and education and growth. I completely forgot about that.

You cant be serious.

You realize that there are Palestinian people in Gaza that are afraid of Hamas right? You cant say anything negative about Hamas.

 

[ahat]

Zionists love that victim mentality.

You can say you're against Zionism all you want, yet the tone of your posts says otherwise.