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I just got a new job. Starting is 33.15/hr
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I just got a new job. Starting is 33.15/hr
I teach kids how to swim. You pay about $500 for all the certifcations and you'll be earning at least $20/hr for public organizations (city parks) or upwards of $50/hr private lessons.Congrats bro. Details?
I know it's not fast but it's still some bucks to pay off this sneaker debt I'm in.fam every post i see you make is about $$$. yeah i know it's makes the sn to post ratio kinda funny but man 33.15 hr ain't fast money b.
good **** bJust finish up with an interview with this company. Recruiter said they want to invite me back for the final interview on Friday.
One more fellas.
You didnt bother bringing the other guy in for an interview because of a cover letter? An interview tells you a lot more about a candidate than a resume and cover letter combined
My point was that both candidates should be interviewed. Cover letters tell me far less than resumes since resumes should list all of your qualifying credentials while the cover letter just iterates a subset of your credentials in a lengthy, wordy manner.when you have to make a case for bringing a person in for an interview to a superior/manager/hiring manager, etc., the person with a cover letter might make a stronger case. You also have to remember, these people read all day, so 2-3 page resume might actually look worse than a cover letter (when requested) and a 1-page resume.
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My point was that both candidates should be interviewed. Cover letters tell me far less than resumes since resumes should list all of your qualifying credentials while the cover letter just iterates a subset of your credentials in a lengthy, wordy manner.
Also, your resume shouldnt be 2-3 pages unless youve had very extensive experience in the field (10+ years). I've only been in the field for 2 years and I've never had a resume that was more than 1 page long.
I disagree with the part about reading all day. These people are BUSY. They get hundreds of applications and resumes and one of my organization's recruiter told me herself that she doesnt even look at cover letters. Resumes are quicker if your goal, as a recruiter, is to understand the candidate's qualifications.
Here me out on this. Am I the only one that feels a certain type of way when a black person is labeled eloquent or articulate? It is almost like a side armed compliment like "educated black person."
Let this story serve as inspiration to those still out there looking, especially my fellow young men of color.
Walked in there. 3 people interviewing me, but the director did most of the talking. I held a convo with the director for like a good 3 mins before I realized that this WAS the interview, and I was doing fantastically.
Long story short, all this lady kept saying was how eloquent and articulate I was. How intelligent I seem. I'm less than 3 weeks away from a college degree. I'm educated. Through my speaking, I spun my brief internship into one of the greatest learning experiences of my life--which it was.
She said she wanted to squeeze every last drop of intelligence out of me that she could. She said she's pretty sure she'd like to hire me. The only thing is that she's trying to figure out where to place me with my intelligence. That word again. Intelligence. She said it a lot.
Ask questions. She asked if I had any questions for them and I asked them 5 or 6 very challenging questions. She said nobody asks her questions when she interviews them.
Wear a black suit. Stand tall. Walk tall. Speak eloquently. That means speak with some intelligence. You're not an idiot. You're not what they're out here trying to portray you as.
So prove it.
Sure, that's why the resume is important in when analyzing which candidates meet qualifications and are worthy of an interview. However, in this example, where both candidates' resumes are identical, the cover letter could help. But in the real world, no two resumes are identical so I dont see how one can run into this scenario.unfortunately you aren't paying for "every applicant" to be interviewed.
They have a limited amount of interviews.
That's how the world works, dude.
You can disagree all you want; One recruiter at your organization is not the standard for the industry. She doesn't even read cover letters? doubt the positions request or require them, then, right?
no idea where you were going with the 2-3 page thing, I never said 2-3 pages was a good idea. i said a cover letter + 1 page resume > 2-3 page resume.
Like you said, they read hundreds of pages of information, in attempt to solicit applicants for interviews.....
If i have two equal candidates. One with a letter and one without, and I have to justify my pick to a superior..............the cover letter will win out. It gives more "evidence" as to why I picked who i picked. Same way two applicants applying with one submitting a portfolio would stand out over the other.
you can continue to disagree and argue, and advocate that every applicant should get an opportunity to interview......
but it just doesn't work that way.
think of a cover letter like a not-in-person interview.
You can tell the person, in plain English, why they should give YOU an interview.....your resume cannot explain in such a fashion.
Your cover letter is supposed to tell the person HOW the things on your resume would be an asset to the position.
Your resume can't do that.
Also, your cover letter introduces a voice.
An applicant with a voice comes off as more personable than someone with a black and white resume.
You can use your cover letter to exhibit intelligence, communication style and sense of humor, among others. None of these can be expressed in a resume.
Now, after i've explained the purpose of a cover letter to you fully, if you still refuse to include one out of being stubborn while demanding EVERYONE get to interview......you got some growing up to do.
This was what I thought for many years too, until I got into the workforce. Then my opinion changed completely. But then that's just one person's opinion, you can read more here:And yes, I've heard from multiple career experts that a recruiter will always go with the person who wrote the cover letter than the one who didn't because they showed initiative and took the time.
Just making an observation TerrellIts more of an insult than a compliment but what can you do?
From my experience, no. Including the salary upfront generally means that its non-negotiable.So if a company sends you an email for an interview over the phone but they include in the email the salary they are offering you, does that mean they are leaning towards hiring me?
Not to mention I got a call the same day of filling out the application from the HR lady.
like what brother chapelle said... if you black and live in america you gotta entertain the MAN
aside from that NFS.. do you guys have real references from colleges or previous jobs?