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RetroFighterUSAW wrote:

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This sucks, I have a 4.0 GPA in nursing school, BLS, ACLS, PALS certified and still can't find a job. I've been getting rejection emails left and right. The job market for RNs is tough.

Originally Posted by CodLiverOil

Any places hiring in NYC?

@ Retro Fighter--Awesome GPA but if you don't have ANY experience then it would make sense why you're not being put on. Did you do an externship or something like that?? I'd suggest looking outside your city or state even if interested in hospitals--or look into working in nursing homes to get your feet wet. Nurses are still in high demand especially RNs. I kinda of wish I'd done it right out of high school, I would've been a traveling nurse. They bring in mad $$$.

 Good Luck!
@CodLiverOil--They say a lot of the theaters are hiring in that area. I suspect if you have any kind of background in film, marketing, public relations, communications,etc. it'll help land something. Check the link: http://www.playbill.com/jobs/find/ I'm not from NY so I can't vouch for anything, but the site is legit. Best of Luck!

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Congrats to everyone who's found something and best of luck to those still searching.

I finally snagged a job but there are problems with the schedule, so I'll have to wait and see how things work out. 

Got an interview next week, feels good. And I'm thinking about applying to these call centers and trying to get on just for July. Well see....

 

[supremacy]

Originally Posted by CodLiverOil

Any places hiring in NYC?

I went to an open house thing for Uniqlo today.
Don't think I'm going to get a call back. While filling out my application, I peeped the two dudes next to me, they both graduated from college already and I just graduated from HS on Monday.
Also, I got no prior retail experience and 90% of the people that were there today with me had retail experience before

Sat through an hour watching a video on the history of the store (dude on my left was taking notes in a notebook), and also watched a video emphasizing good customer service etc. At the end, they made a few ppl stay and the rest they just made us give in the applications and they said they might call if we're deemed qualified.

 

[4shoposite]

Alright!

The boy is on cloud nine right now. Just got a job offer. For those who have visited the thread within the last month or so, y'all know I've been frustrated as hell trying to find a job. Even contemplated rolling one up last weekend after 8 months of "nah, i'm goods" just to relieve the day to day stress. Well, I just gotta call from the manager from the first interview I had setting my up for orientation for next Friday.

1. First I want to say, all the cats still on the grind - stay at it. Don't be tempted to let your frustrations get the best of you. I feel you and I'll continue to pray for yall! Try your best to stay positive.

2. Do whatever you can to find the HR manager, recruiter, or manager's email, phone number, or fax to get your foot in the door. Trust me - I seriously believe that's how I got this job. Stayed on their a__ and didn't let up. Go on google, jigsaw (how I found the manager's email), linkdin..whatever...and send them interest or thank you letters before and after interviews just to set yourself apart.

3. Don't be too proud to call these people. They get annoyed that you calling them?...not likely. They are nervous just like you over the phone trying to answer questions about an application. Sometimes people will say yes because they are in these jobs for being "yes men". Don't know how to say no.

4. Good luck brothas. Love yall.

 

[wawaweewa]

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[h1]Older interns signal gloomy labor market[/h1]

Thu, Jun 30 2011

By Alexandra Alper

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Elizabeth Romanaux puts a brave face on working as an intern at the age of 55.

A media relations manager until she joined the millions of unemployed Americans two years ago, Romanaux spent the spring building contact lists and fetching lunches as she tried to keep alive her chances of resuming full employment.

"You have to suck it up sometimes and do what a 17-year-old would happily do and be happy about it," she said of her recent stint with a public relations firm in New Jersey.

Once the domain of high school and college students, internships are more common among older Americans who are struggling to find jobs and keep their skills up to date in the worst labor market in decades.

"A lot of adults who are either returning to the workforce or have been laid off in the recession are looking for places and ways to build a resume and fill a gap between jobs," said Margo Rose, founder of HireFriday, an online job search advice website.

"The last thing you want to do is look the interviewer in the eye with a blank stare when they ask you, 'What have you been doing for the last year?'"

RISE OF THE MATURE INTERNS

Data is scant on the number of older interns but labor economists, internship recruiters and graduate school career officers agree the number has been on the rise.

"There has definitely been almost an explosion of this kind of thing," said Liz Ryan, of LizRyan.com, a career advice website. She says she had never been approached by mid-career clients seeking help securing an internship before 2008.

"In 2008, I had about 20 of them," she said.

That increased to 36 annually in 2009 and 2010.

Phil Gardner, research director for the Collegiate Employment Research Institute, which analyzes initial employment at Michigan State University, said the number of graduates taking internships "ballooned last year" before easing off as the labor market improved in early 2011.

Historically, college internships did not take off until the 1970s, when baby boomers flooded universities. From 1970 to 1983, the number of colleges and universities offering internship programs increased from 200 to 1,000.

The rising number of older interns now is symptomatic of the broader crisis in the labor market in which millions of Americans cannot get the kind of work they want.

While the unemployment rate ticked up to 9.1 percent in May, almost 16 percent of Americans were underemployed in the same month -- either out of work but looking, working part-time involuntarily or discouraged from searching for a job.

Labor Department data on Thursday showed initial claims for unemployment benefits dipped by just 1,000 to a seasonally adjusted 428,000 in the week ending June 25. That is far from the drop below 400,000 claims that would signal an improvement in the labor market.

HELPFUL OR HARMFUL TREND?

Industry specialists disagree on what the increase in older interns mean for them and the labor market.

Ryan says internships can be the ticket for older interns to beat out more recent graduates for scarce entry-level jobs.

Six in 10 internships lead to jobs, according to the National Association of Colleges and Employers, an employment research group also known as NACE.

But for critics such as Ross Perlin, author of "Intern Nation," which examines the role of internships in the economy, unpaid labor harms everyone in the labor market.

Perlin estimates that American organizations save $2 billion annually by not paying interns minimum wage. He estimates between 1 million and 2 million college students intern in the United States each year.

According to NACE, 48 percent of internships are unpaid.

Seven percent of employers surveyed by CareerBuilder.com in 2009 reported receiving internship applications from workers over the age of 50. A quarter of employers also reported receiving applications for entry-level positions from the same age group.

Ryan says Will Smith's 2006 movie "The Pursuit of Happyness" may have contributed to the uptick in post-college- age interns.

In the movie, Smith's character loses everything in a get-rich-quick scheme selling bone density scanners. But in a Hollywood twist, he lands a stock brokerage internship, which, after six grueling months, turns into a job.

TOUGH TIMES FOR TEENS

In the real world, some worry that older workers taking internships may further displace young workers from an already tight youth labor market.

"It pushes its way down the scale," said Ross Eisenbrey, vice president of the Economic Policy Institute, a Washington-based think tank.

The unemployment rate in May was more than 24 percent for 16- to 19-year-olds and it approached 15 percent for 20- to 24-year-olds. These are the two age groups most likely to intern.

Romanaux understands the cold business logic of using older workers as interns.

"If I could get someone like me for free, I would be apologetic about it, but I would do it."

Romanaux -- who is doing freelance consulting for the same museum that laid her off -- is grateful for her internship, which ended in May.

She says she learned about social media without having to pay the cost of tuition at a graduate school.

But she says there is nothing easy about starting over at 55.

"It was very stressful," she said, recalling early errors she made during her internship. "Even though they weren't paying me, I felt badly I couldn't do it well."

(Reporting by Alexandra Alper; Editing by Jan Paschal)

 

[me no pass]

Originally Posted by salbah3

Originally Posted by RetroFighterUSAW

This sucks, I have a 4.0 GPA in nursing school, BLS, ACLS, PALS certified and still can't find a job. I've been getting rejection emails left and right. The job market for RNs is tough.

I thought this was still on demand, however, I've been hearing that the past few years so I am thinking the movement went the RN route and the market is now oversaturated.

where do you live? job market for RNs are flourishing in CT

 

[debso]

+!+% this job market.

That's basically all I have to say without going into a full page rant.

Basically makes me feel worthless. Old and worthless.

 

[retrofighterusaw]

I live in Southern California.
***Update*** I got an interview next Thursday, I'll keep you guys posted!

 

[sosmoove]

Originally Posted by debs 168

*@%+ this job market.

That's basically all I have to say without going into a full page rant.

Basically makes me feel worthless. Old and worthless.

I feel you on that. Times like this make you question every decision you ever made and think about what you could have done different

 

[al audi]

Originally Posted by salbah3

Originally Posted by RetroFighterUSAW

This sucks, I have a 4.0 GPA in nursing school, BLS, ACLS, PALS certified and still can't find a job. I've been getting rejection emails left and right. The job market for RNs is tough.

I thought this was still on demand, however, I've been hearing that the past few years so I am thinking the movement went the RN route and the market is now oversaturated.

i think i said that before in this thread or another
it is oversaturated

there is a girl at my chicks job who been got her RN months ago an still works as an aide there because she cant for a RN position

besides all the minorities chicks who go into nursing, im seein a lot more white females and even males go into nursing now. 

i think a lot of ppl went the RN route for job security and decent pay and now its oversatuated i seen it happen in my state an like i said i know ppl thru ppl i know who have LPN, RN, even down to CNAs hear the stories all the time, prolly best to go even further to distinguish yourself with a cert or something, there are a lot of things to do.

 

[mr everywhere]

Its tough out there man. When i graduated in '06, I went through the same thing yall are going through. In the DC area...the job market is ruthless. Interview after interview after interview. Taking BS jobs......temping positions... TSA ....smh. I hated that time in my life. But you gotta keep on puttin in those resumes. You gotta network wherever you go. You never know when u will meet somebody that will just pass your resume to somebody that can really help you. The gov job i have now, been here for 2 years, i never applied for. Started as a GS-7...now im an 11. The HR lady said that somehow my resume just came accross her desk. I didnt know anyone that worked there. Crazy man. Good luck to yall tho. Good times are ahead.

 

[al audi]

Originally Posted by ME NO PASS

Originally Posted by salbah3

Originally Posted by RetroFighterUSAW

This sucks, I have a 4.0 GPA in nursing school, BLS, ACLS, PALS certified and still can't find a job. I've been getting rejection emails left and right. The job market for RNs is tough.

I thought this was still on demand, however, I've been hearing that the past few years so I am thinking the movement went the RN route and the market is now oversaturated.

where do you live? job market for RNs are flourishing in CT

LOL WHERE?
i live in CT, like i stated i know a lot of nurses.

you mean agencies or per diem? RN jobs are not flourishing in CT, i could tell a chick that right now an shed go on a rant. do you know nurses ppl in the healhcare industry round here?

 

[regal black]

Originally Posted by 4Shoposite


2. Do whatever you can to find the HR manager, recruiter, or manager's email, phone number, or fax to get your foot in the door. Trust me - I seriously believe that's how I got this job. Stayed on their a__ and didn't let up. Go on google, jigsaw (how I found the manager's email), linkdin..whatever...and send them interest or thank you letters before and after interviews just to set yourself apart.

Listen to this guy.  That's pretty much how I got my current job.  I actually interviewed with them twice.  I didn't get the position the first time, so I like %++% this and started writing a email letter to the HR Manager telling her about my interest in the job and why I'm a good fit for the company.  Told her to let me know if any positions are available.  About a week or two later I got a call from her and went for the interview the 2nd time and finally got the job.  
Its all about persistence and patience.  Don't be afraid of the word "no"

 

[ryair max 1]

Originally Posted by Verdykt

I applied to be the academic advisor in the History department from the school I just graduated from. A bit of a longshot since I have no counseling experience, but I also applied to work in the admissions department of the school as well. Had my interview Monday for it and got the word Wednesday that I got the job. Hopefully this gives me the experience the school is looking for to be able to eventually be an advisor. Not the loftiest of goals, but I really enjoy helping people with school. Good luck to everyone out there still looking. I know it can be discouraging, but keep at it.

if you are willing to stay in that position for a few years, take advantage of a masters program, if they offer one to university staff. If I'm able to find a job at university within the next few years, best believe I will be taking full advantage because many schools offer almost free/free education to most people that work there. 

 

[verdykt]

Originally Posted by ryair max 1

Originally Posted by Verdykt

I applied to be the academic advisor in the History department from the school I just graduated from. A bit of a longshot since I have no counseling experience, but I also applied to work in the admissions department of the school as well. Had my interview Monday for it and got the word Wednesday that I got the job. Hopefully this gives me the experience the school is looking for to be able to eventually be an advisor. Not the loftiest of goals, but I really enjoy helping people with school. Good luck to everyone out there still looking. I know it can be discouraging, but keep at it.

if you are willing to stay in that position for a few years, take advantage of a masters program, if they offer one to university staff. If I'm able to find a job at university within the next few years, best believe I will be taking full advantage because many schools offer almost free/free education to most people that work there. 

That's what I would like to do ultimately, im not sure if we offer one yet. The only problem is im looking to get married within the year and will be moving to Omaha because my girl is in dental school there for 3 more years. I'm looking for masters programs out there for that though, so hopefully I can figure things out soon

 

[GTA 809]

Need a Saturday, Sunday, Monday job in NYC. Any ideas?

 

[ace rawstein]

Originally Posted by Regal Black

Originally Posted by 4Shoposite


2. Do whatever you can to find the HR manager, recruiter, or manager's email, phone number, or fax to get your foot in the door. Trust me - I seriously believe that's how I got this job. Stayed on their a__ and didn't let up. Go on google, jigsaw (how I found the manager's email), linkdin..whatever...and send them interest or thank you letters before and after interviews just to set yourself apart.

Listen to this guy.  That's pretty much how I got my current job.  I actually interviewed with them twice.  I didn't get the position the first time, so I like %++% this and started writing a email letter to the HR Manager telling her about my interest in the job and why I'm a good fit for the company.  Told her to let me know if any positions are available.  About a week or two later I got a call from her and went for the interview the 2nd time and finally got the job.  
Its all about persistence and patience.  Don't be afraid of the word "no"

yep i did this for the job i interviewed for last week
just go that extra mile trying to contact someone in HR, preferably the manager, but you may end up starting with an analyst cuz they are usually easier to find

if i dont land this gig, imma make sure i do that for all future positions i go out for

 

[supremacy]

For those that got a call back for an interview, how many days was it from when you dropped off the application to when they called you?

 

[uptownsdotnetstacky]

Anything in Metropolitan Detroit?

 

[iamanobody]

hey NT. having a lot of trouble finding a career. i have a bachelor's, but am having a hard time finding a career. major was Sociology and have been tutoring for a while, but want to look into something else. any NT'ers switch careers/types of jobs. How did you do it? Any advice?

 

[cobra kai]

I'm in socal right now on vacation and I love this place.

I'm looking at jobs here now.

 

[tannervon]

Originally Posted by Cobra Kai

I'm in socal right now on vacation and I love this place.

I'm looking at jobs here now.

hahah we are too

 

[xavier]

law enforcement field or teaching field (health physical education)???


which would be a better career move?

 

[supremacy]

I got a call back from CVS for an interview tomorrow.
This is going to be my first job interview.
Aside from dressing professionally, is there anything i should bring for the interview?

 

[stand4something]

For all my NYNT'ers, July 16th at 12pm at the Brooklyn Marriott, be there, PM me your info and ill put you on my guest list, serious inquiries only.

 

[ace rawstein]

didnt land the gig