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He's on a joke of a team.. one that's not conducive to improving as a player and professional.
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Originally Posted by sooperhooper
If Wall went to a decent team with other solid players surrounding him, cats would be on here saying he's better than cp3. Some of you dudes are funny.
Yall calling this man a bust in just his second year! Son still has the fold print in his jersey cause the joint is still brand new. He may have to take his talents elsewhere but he'll be up there in the rankings one day. Tonight he was just reminding cats what was up in case you forgot why he went numero uno.
Originally Posted by swyftdahoe
He's on a joke of a team.. one that's not conducive to improving as a player and professional.
Originally Posted by wildKYcat
he woulda been ROY had Blake not recieved a medical redshirt.
Wall's rookie year pretty much parallels that of Rose's.
Originally Posted by dland24
He isnt a bust, but he is no where near as good as everyone thought he would be by this point.
Originally Posted by 703 Hwy
IMO Wall better do something by next season for sure or he can be in the "overrated" talks but not bust yet but he's headed there.
Originally Posted by DT43
so much idiocy in this thread.. i don't even know what to quote.
Wall, with almost all certainty, will be a top 5 PG within 3-4 years. You'd be an idiot to say otherwise.
And all the people saying "he's gonna leave, demand a trade blah blah"... with the way the CBA is structured there will be no advantage to him not resigning with Washington
For those who don't want to look at the chart...
•Wall averages 7.6 assists per game, with a season high of 15 against the Detroit Pistons on February 12.
•He has a total of 118 and an average of 3.6 (rounding up) spot-up assist opportunities squandered by missed shots or turnovers.
•He has a total of 40 and an average of 1.2 (rounding down) pick-and-roller assist opportunities squandered by missed shots or turnovers.
•He has a total of 87 and an average of 2.6 (rounding down) transition assist opportunities squandered by missed shots or turnovers.
•He has a total of 69 and an average of 2.1 (rounding up) assist opportunities of any other kind (non-ISO or post-up) opportunities squandered by missed shots or turnovers.
•His season high of missed assist opportunities was against the Thunder, when he missed out of 17 additional possible assists. He's also had a game with 16, a game with 15 and a game with 14. He's had 15 instances of double-digit assists being squandered. Eleven of those games prior to Flip Saunders being fired.
•On average, 43.9 percent of Wall's assist opportunities result in actual assists.That means that Wall is averaging 9.7 missed assists per game this season.
I don't know about you, but that seems pretty high. We're talking about 321 total plays where Wall could have had an assist if his teammate just hit the shot. Say Wall's teammates convert on just 100 of those 321 misses. That would take him from averaging 7.6 assists per game to averaging 10.7 assists per game. Only Steve Nash (10.9 assists per game) is posting a higher assist per game average than that.
There are plenty of lessons to glean from this on the unreliability of the assists statistic, Wall's own poor teammates and maybe even Wall's passes themselves. We'll be tracking this every game to see if Wall continues to lose out on many assist opportunities.
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Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
This was pretty interesting..
For those who don't want to look at the chart...
•Wall averages 7.6 assists per game, with a season high of 15 against the Detroit Pistons on February 12.
•He has a total of 118 and an average of 3.6 (rounding up) spot-up assist opportunities squandered by missed shots or turnovers.
•He has a total of 40 and an average of 1.2 (rounding down) pick-and-roller assist opportunities squandered by missed shots or turnovers.
•He has a total of 87 and an average of 2.6 (rounding down) transition assist opportunities squandered by missed shots or turnovers.
•He has a total of 69 and an average of 2.1 (rounding up) assist opportunities of any other kind (non-ISO or post-up) opportunities squandered by missed shots or turnovers.
•His season high of missed assist opportunities was against the Thunder, when he missed out of 17 additional possible assists. He's also had a game with 16, a game with 15 and a game with 14. He's had 15 instances of double-digit assists being squandered. Eleven of those games prior to Flip Saunders being fired.
•On average, 43.9 percent of Wall's assist opportunities result in actual assists.That means that Wall is averaging 9.7 missed assists per game this season.
I don't know about you, but that seems pretty high. We're talking about 321 total plays where Wall could have had an assist if his teammate just hit the shot. Say Wall's teammates convert on just 100 of those 321 misses. That would take him from averaging 7.6 assists per game to averaging 10.7 assists per game. Only Steve Nash (10.9 assists per game) is posting a higher assist per game average than that.
There are plenty of lessons to glean from this on the unreliability of the assists statistic, Wall's own poor teammates and maybe even Wall's passes themselves. We'll be tracking this every game to see if Wall continues to lose out on many assist opportunities.
Originally Posted by 10027
Originally Posted by DT43
so much idiocy in this thread.. i don't even know what to quote.
Wall, with almost all certainty, will be a top 5 PG within 3-4 years. You'd be an idiot to say otherwise.
And all the people saying "he's gonna leave, demand a trade blah blah"... with the way the CBA is structured there will be no advantage to him not resigning with Washington
What about the advantage of not playing with mental midgets who make him look bad for the rest of his career?
Originally Posted by RunningFishy
What are you guys talking about? John was drafted by an organization that fell off the face of the earth since MJ days. They have NO FRANCHISE and are constantly in REBUILD MODE.
Originally Posted by DIOR PAINT
Originally Posted by RunningFishy
What are you guys talking about? John was drafted by an organization that fell off the face of the earth since MJ days. They have NO FRANCHISE and are constantly in REBUILD MODE.
@ since MJ days. They didn't sniff the playoffs during those days and went for 4 straight years afterwards in the Arenas era.
Originally Posted by RunningFishy
Originally Posted by DIOR PAINT
Originally Posted by RunningFishy
What are you guys talking about? John was drafted by an organization that fell off the face of the earth since MJ days. They have NO FRANCHISE and are constantly in REBUILD MODE.
@ since MJ days. They didn't sniff the playoffs during those days and went for 4 straight years afterwards in the Arenas era.
And arenas is who now? Come on man. You know what I mean.
The spill over is a great reason why this franchise went tumbling down. They signed agent Zero w/ everything and he failed to deliver. Isn't that always the case/ ALA, BEN GORDON. Who dat?
Who are all these 5 year shelf life guards? COME ON MAN
That's worth more money than DC can ever offer him imo. Sorry Double
And that's what I'm worried about...
I think it was Dior Paint who said that Wall will probably sign an extension like what Kevin Love did in Minnesota...I gotta agree with that...assuming Wall stays.
Suprisingly he says he made 2000 shots a day during the summer and the lockout. But his game really hasn't improved since last season. Not a bust but at this point clearly not as a good of a pg as KyrieOriginally Posted by Lizaker4Lizife
not a bust, but I thought he would have developed a jumpshot by now. seems like he doesnt work on adding to his game in the offseason.
John Wall career average - 8.1apgOriginally Posted by dumbout227
Suprisingly he says he made 2000 shots a day during the summer and the lockout. But his game really hasn't improved since last season. Not a bust but at this point clearly not as a good of a pg as KyrieOriginally Posted by Lizaker4Lizife
not a bust, but I thought he would have developed a jumpshot by now. seems like he doesnt work on adding to his game in the offseason.
Agree with this.Originally Posted by dumbout227
Suprisingly he says he made 2000 shots a day during the summer and the lockout. But his game really hasn't improved since last season.Originally Posted by Lizaker4Lizife
not a bust, but I thought he would have developed a jumpshot by now. seems like he doesnt work on adding to his game in the offseason.Not a bust but at this point clearly not as a good of a pg as Kyrie