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great concept, but JB will mess it up. Better materials, but they still can't get the damn shape of the shoe right.
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So you should know that quality on retro's have been awful for a good while now, before 2011, going for both Nike and JB.Started buying in 2011?.....lol....I still have my concords from 95 bud
Exactly.
Who gives a **** about the jumpman? Its really hard to mess up a Nike swoosh...
Do that and correct the damn shape.
Hell, tell MJ to bring his original shoes in from home and copy those. ****.
SOMEBODY working there has an original release AJ4 that can be referenced...
it's pretty crazy how much the quality control has dimished since around '07. They never really had quality problems with the first era of retros, and realistically the retros resembled their OG counterparts. And now they're trying to improve their products back to where they started, so expect to see higher prices. As much as i don't like it, if they're putting more attention on the aesthetics and overall quality, the factory workers need that $$$.
True statement.believe me. Real collectors would pay 20 bucks more for a jordan retro that would come very close to the og.
here is an example:
Spend 170 on a aj6 black/red with nubuck upper, jumpman, no 3m
Or
190 with durabuck upper, nike air and 3m?
% wise, if we miss out we might have to pay $1000 resell lolTHIS IS THE LAST THING IM GONNA SAY IN THIS THREAD
MAKE OG 1'S IN ORIGINAL COLORS WITH PREMIUM HIGH QUALITY LEATHER AND SELL EM AT $300+
THATS ALL I WANT
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Bingo. I be trying to explain this to my co-worker. This price hike is totally absurd. The $160 price hike from a few years ago was already ridiculous. Now you want to tack on an additional $40 or so and give us "premium" materials? LOL! $160 should've been the price for the "premium" material. Jordan IV's have the exact same technology since 1989. So what the heck are we paying extra for? Tumbled leather? C'mon man, that's ridiculous. Creasing will still happen as well as the paint chipping. The only way I'd be happy about this is if they released maybe one or two premium models a year. No, they got like 7 IV's slated for release next year which will be at least $1400 or so. It burns me up because nowadays true collectors only make up 2% of the shoe buying market so our voices can't be heard. NTers see through this garbage. The outside world are dumb sheep who are going to keep eating up everything Nike throws their way.this is a gimmick people. they have re- released every shoe like 3-4 times per colorway and they know eventually they have to give people a reason to keep buying the same shoe over and over again. but don't blame them, blame us because we buy all these shoes like some fiends. I do hope they up their quality though, some of these retros are garbage. I wish I could ball in retros, but I know the newer tech in the new shoes out are much better. I hope they can change that aspect, not just for looks but for people that want to ball in retros too.
Nah my man, you're missing the point. These prices are out of control. Realistically, they should've NEVER been $160/$170 for ALL retroes in the first place. $160/$170 for a pair of shoes is NOT cheap (this is coming from someone who has spent $1000+ for a pair of shoes). $160/$170 should be the price for "premium" Jordan's. Crap materials, crap shapes, and crap quality for a pair of shoes I'm spending $170 on should have never been tolerated. Now Jordan Brand "has heard the complaints from the fans" and is reacting accordingly? When did they hear the voice of the fans? We been complaining about their quality for YEARS! They spent the last two years jacking the prices up so when they bring out these "premium" models, they can charge us an arm and a leg. Seriously, what justified the price jump from $160 in 2012/early '13 to $170 in late '13/2014? The quality didn't get any better. Now all they're going to do is bring back Chicago X's 3 years later, make the leather a bit softer and stitch #45 on them and BAM! $200 price tag. Utterly ridiculous. Jordan's are non-functional. The retro technology is outdated. Hooping in them is a risk. Wear them too much (too much being 10-20 wears) and they start to chip and peel. Clear soles yellow whether you wear them or not. Comfort is a hit-or-miss thing.So my consensus is let's get closer to the OG and OG prices.never gonna happen though.![]()
complaint fest in here
realistically what 3s/4s/5s/6s have you guys worn a lot that didnt chip, cuz I haven't had any
you guys keep complaining about that and they're gonna over compensate like they did with the yellowing issue, probably replace all the soles with lunarlon
thats not true.
The first retro with quality issues were the 2000 aj 6.
While the upper materials were good, the paintjob was crap. My black/infareds had paint chipping after a few wears at the heel of the midsole, my white/navys peeled off after one wear!
Then the 2001 true blues 3, aj 9 retros (2002) also had paint crack issues.
but indeed, since 2007 it got even worse.
My 09 true blue IIIs.....took about 50 wears and numerous cleanings before I saw a crack in the midsoles. And the complaints are well warranted cause its the same song and dance weve been hearing...
could be wrong, but I have never owned nor seen anyone else with some chipped 6's...and all these people over at that company need to do is upgrade their supplies because the complaints have been here for years..lol