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I dropped him in Fantasy when he had a mini slump
He had 25 HR power with the Pirates and the Blue Jays offense is a major upgrade. Garrett Jones needs to get out of there asap
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I dropped him in Fantasy when he had a mini slump
He had 25 HR power with the Pirates and the Blue Jays offense is a major upgrade. Garrett Jones needs to get out of there asap
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i mean we dont know what changes he made to his swing over the off season that led to this, but you know he was tested about 40 times this year
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i mean we dont know what changes he made to his swing over the off season that led to this, but you know he was tested about 40 times this year
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Wait trying to hit more flyballs is a dead giveaway? What?Originally Posted by Juan Baller
It's pretty obvious that Jose Bautista's performance this year has been aided by PEDs. He's purposely trying to hit fly balls, which is a dead giveaway. Bautista's batted ball breakdown is 14.8% line drives, 30.0% ground balls, and 55.2% fly balls. Only Aramis Ramirez has a higher fly ball percentage and that's only because he's had an off year (Ramirez couldn't make solid contact with anything for the first 3 months of the season).
PEDs don't make you a better hitter, but the added strength can turn fly ball outs into home runs. Prior to this year, Bautista's HR per Fly Ball ratio was 10.3%. This year, 21.1% of his fly balls are leaving the yard.
Bautista picked the wrong time to reap the benefits of PED use. 2010 has truly been the "year of the pitcher." Slugging percentage league-wide is at its lowest level in 17 years. Dude is 1 HR away from 50 and nobody else even has 40 HR... that's not alarming at all.
Bautista leads MLB in Isolated Power (ISO = slugging percentage - batting average) by an astounding 62 points. Besides Barry Bonds, nobody has posted a higher ISO since Jim Thome in 2002.
[table][tr][th="col"]Name[/th][th="col"]AVG[/th][th="col"]SLG[/th][th="col"]ISO [/th][th="col"]BABIP[/th][/tr][tr][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td].262[/td][td].616[/td][td].353[/td][td].238[/td][/tr][tr][td]Miguel Cabrera[/td][td].332[/td][td].623[/td][td].291[/td][td].343[/td][/tr][tr][td]Albert Pujols[/td][td].309[/td][td].594[/td][td].285[/td][td].292[/td][/tr][tr][td]Adam Dunn[/td][td].264[/td][td].545[/td][td].281[/td][td].329[/td][/tr][tr][td]Paul Konerko[/td][td].323[/td][td].604[/td][td].280[/td][td].337[/td][/tr][tr][td]Josh Hamilton[/td][td].361[/td][td].635[/td][td].274[/td][td].396[/td][/tr][tr][td]Carlos Gonzalez[/td][td].341[/td][td].610[/td][td].269[/td][td].388[/td][/tr][tr][td]Joey Votto[/td][td].321[/td][td].589[/td][td].268[/td][td].355[/td][/tr][/table]
It mean many things nothing that conscripting it's meaning to roids.
There just as many other things you can assume like the new hitting coaches have altered his approach at the plate, changed to a more uppercut swing. Why do YOU assume it's steroids, there is nothing to point to that other than an increase in his home runs which involve many other factors.
Baseball is a sport WITH A HISTORY of statistical fluctuations, many players before the wide spread use of PED's have had random rises in there power numbers only to fall off a clif the next year. Davey Johnson hit 43 HR's after never hitting more than 18, infact only hitting double digits 3 out of the EIGHT years previous. This happens in baseball.
What doesn't happen is PED is turning someone who was NOTHING into a 50 HR hitter, there is barley even any real concrete SCIENTIFIC knowledge on how roids impact your ability to hit a baseball.
Are roids the reason he hit 50 hr's, very likely NOT, it's ignorance of the statistical history of baseball and the science behind PED's that would cause people to jump to that conclusion.
There a bunch of legit reasons he hit a lot of home runs.
-new Swing (http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2...utistas-home-run-binge/)
-Change in plate approach (http://www.fangraphs.com/...ey-bats-goes-ballistic/)
- his history of power to pull side ever before this year. (his iso is above .300 for the past 4 years pulling the ball
-rogers center especially to left being a very home run friendly park.
- THE RANDOMNESS OF BASEBALL
The reasons "he hit a lot of home runs as a result of steroids"
he hit alot of hom runs....
Logical fallacy if I ever saw one.
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Wait trying to hit more flyballs is a dead giveaway? What?Originally Posted by Juan Baller
It's pretty obvious that Jose Bautista's performance this year has been aided by PEDs. He's purposely trying to hit fly balls, which is a dead giveaway. Bautista's batted ball breakdown is 14.8% line drives, 30.0% ground balls, and 55.2% fly balls. Only Aramis Ramirez has a higher fly ball percentage and that's only because he's had an off year (Ramirez couldn't make solid contact with anything for the first 3 months of the season).
PEDs don't make you a better hitter, but the added strength can turn fly ball outs into home runs. Prior to this year, Bautista's HR per Fly Ball ratio was 10.3%. This year, 21.1% of his fly balls are leaving the yard.
Bautista picked the wrong time to reap the benefits of PED use. 2010 has truly been the "year of the pitcher." Slugging percentage league-wide is at its lowest level in 17 years. Dude is 1 HR away from 50 and nobody else even has 40 HR... that's not alarming at all.
Bautista leads MLB in Isolated Power (ISO = slugging percentage - batting average) by an astounding 62 points. Besides Barry Bonds, nobody has posted a higher ISO since Jim Thome in 2002.
[table][tr][th="col"]Name[/th][th="col"]AVG[/th][th="col"]SLG[/th][th="col"]ISO [/th][th="col"]BABIP[/th][/tr][tr][td]Jose Bautista[/td][td].262[/td][td].616[/td][td].353[/td][td].238[/td][/tr][tr][td]Miguel Cabrera[/td][td].332[/td][td].623[/td][td].291[/td][td].343[/td][/tr][tr][td]Albert Pujols[/td][td].309[/td][td].594[/td][td].285[/td][td].292[/td][/tr][tr][td]Adam Dunn[/td][td].264[/td][td].545[/td][td].281[/td][td].329[/td][/tr][tr][td]Paul Konerko[/td][td].323[/td][td].604[/td][td].280[/td][td].337[/td][/tr][tr][td]Josh Hamilton[/td][td].361[/td][td].635[/td][td].274[/td][td].396[/td][/tr][tr][td]Carlos Gonzalez[/td][td].341[/td][td].610[/td][td].269[/td][td].388[/td][/tr][tr][td]Joey Votto[/td][td].321[/td][td].589[/td][td].268[/td][td].355[/td][/tr][/table]
It mean many things nothing that conscripting it's meaning to roids.
There just as many other things you can assume like the new hitting coaches have altered his approach at the plate, changed to a more uppercut swing. Why do YOU assume it's steroids, there is nothing to point to that other than an increase in his home runs which involve many other factors.
Baseball is a sport WITH A HISTORY of statistical fluctuations, many players before the wide spread use of PED's have had random rises in there power numbers only to fall off a clif the next year. Davey Johnson hit 43 HR's after never hitting more than 18, infact only hitting double digits 3 out of the EIGHT years previous. This happens in baseball.
What doesn't happen is PED is turning someone who was NOTHING into a 50 HR hitter, there is barley even any real concrete SCIENTIFIC knowledge on how roids impact your ability to hit a baseball.
Are roids the reason he hit 50 hr's, very likely NOT, it's ignorance of the statistical history of baseball and the science behind PED's that would cause people to jump to that conclusion.
There a bunch of legit reasons he hit a lot of home runs.
-new Swing (http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2...utistas-home-run-binge/)
-Change in plate approach (http://www.fangraphs.com/...ey-bats-goes-ballistic/)
- his history of power to pull side ever before this year. (his iso is above .300 for the past 4 years pulling the ball
-rogers center especially to left being a very home run friendly park.
- THE RANDOMNESS OF BASEBALL
The reasons "he hit a lot of home runs as a result of steroids"
he hit alot of hom runs....
Logical fallacy if I ever saw one.
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you think in this day and age that someone could get away with juicing like this?
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
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you think in this day and age that someone could get away with juicing like this?
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
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I'm not sure what baseball's testing policy is like but it's possible the guy could've been juicing in the off-season (assuming players dont get tested in the off-season) and cycled off the illegal substances a few weeks/months prior to pre-season.Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril
you think in this day and age that someone could get away with juicing like this?
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
Ofcourse it's unfair to Bautista to speculate like this but he's subject to scrutiny just like every baseball player is in this day and age.
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I'm not sure what baseball's testing policy is like but it's possible the guy could've been juicing in the off-season (assuming players dont get tested in the off-season) and cycled off the illegal substances a few weeks/months prior to pre-season.Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril
you think in this day and age that someone could get away with juicing like this?
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
Ofcourse it's unfair to Bautista to speculate like this but he's subject to scrutiny just like every baseball player is in this day and age.
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If it's not roids, his bat is corked.
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If it's not roids, his bat is corked.
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Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril
you think in this day and age that someone could get away with juicing like this?
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
MLB doesnt test for every kind of PED.
Im sure OKB has some sort of stat that trys to prove that Brady Anderson was a statistical oddity.
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Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril
you think in this day and age that someone could get away with juicing like this?
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
MLB doesnt test for every kind of PED.
Im sure OKB has some sort of stat that trys to prove that Brady Anderson was a statistical oddity.
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Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril
you think in this day and age that someone could get away with juicing like this?
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
MLB doesnt test for every kind of PED.
Im sure OKB has some sort of stat that trys to prove that Brady Anderson was a statistical oddity.
Brady, was probably a combination of both.
Steroids CAN'T make a journeyman into a 50 HR hitter, they aren't magic beans.
Especially Bautista and his skinny 190 pond frame identical to the size he was in Pitt.
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Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril
you think in this day and age that someone could get away with juicing like this?
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
MLB doesnt test for every kind of PED.
Im sure OKB has some sort of stat that trys to prove that Brady Anderson was a statistical oddity.
Brady, was probably a combination of both.
Steroids CAN'T make a journeyman into a 50 HR hitter, they aren't magic beans.
Especially Bautista and his skinny 190 pond frame identical to the size he was in Pitt.
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril
you think in this day and age that someone could get away with juicing like this?
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
MLB doesnt test for every kind of PED.
Im sure OKB has some sort of stat that trys to prove that Brady Anderson was a statistical oddity.
Brady, was probably a combination of both.
Steroids CAN'T make a journeyman into a 50 HR hitter, they aren't magic beans.
Especially Bautista and his skinny 190 pond frame identical to the size he was in Pitt.
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Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril
you think in this day and age that someone could get away with juicing like this?
no %!%$%@% chance. dude is clean as %@$#. they are probably testing him every 3 days.
MLB doesnt test for every kind of PED.
Im sure OKB has some sort of stat that trys to prove that Brady Anderson was a statistical oddity.
Brady, was probably a combination of both.
Steroids CAN'T make a journeyman into a 50 HR hitter, they aren't magic beans.
Especially Bautista and his skinny 190 pond frame identical to the size he was in Pitt.
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Brady Anderson was a statistical oddity.
no, he wasn't .....
btw where the $#%+ did this come from ???
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Brady Anderson was a statistical oddity.
no, he wasn't .....
btw where the $#%+ did this come from ???
I'm all for accusing a player for a division rival being on the PED's and he might be but he tweaked his swing a bit last September and has not looked back. I think it has more to do with that IMO. That small tick upwards with the bat that he did last year was the best thing that could happen to him. He may not hit 50 again next year but I wouldn't be surprised to see another 35-40 HR season.
I'm all for accusing a player for a division rival being on the PED's and he might be but he tweaked his swing a bit last September and has not looked back. I think it has more to do with that IMO. That small tick upwards with the bat that he did last year was the best thing that could happen to him. He may not hit 50 again next year but I wouldn't be surprised to see another 35-40 HR season.
I'm all for accusing a player for a division rival being on the PED's and he might be but he tweaked his swing a bit last September and has not looked back. I think it has more to do with that IMO. That small tick upwards with the bat that he did last year was the best thing that could happen to him. He may not hit 50 again next year but I wouldn't be surprised to see another 35-40 HR season.
