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Wow my dude team taliban got a seperate thread made about him and he's banned lulz.
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apathetic attitudes like yours is what keeps this world the same, and perpetuated the ignorance that was seen in the previous thread and onceagain in this thread....Originally Posted by Dr Spaceman
Originally Posted by Mo Matik
Where did I make excuses for the Taliban? Where did OP make excuses for the Taliban? Quote it. Let's see it.
And again, what's the point of this thread if you're not gonna take a hard stance? is more research going to change what we do know, and is truth? not likely. So a bit more light is shed on the taliban, it again does not change anything, and it does not appear that you "proponents" want it changed. I hesitate to call you proponents because i don't even know what you are right now.
Originally Posted by Mo Matik
Where did I make excuses for the Taliban? Where did OP make excuses for the Taliban? Quote it. Let's see it.
A friend of mine linked me to the thread and I found it interesting that people thought Taliban were 'bad' people or however you look at it...don't get me wrong I wasn't surprised by the ignorance,
Man please, you know exactly what the OP was trying to state with the way he opened up this thread. And here you are trying to pretend it'sanything other than the equivalent of "Aw c'mon you guys, the Taliban are really just a bunch of misunderstood individuals." Stop trying to pullthe burqa over people's heads.
Absolutely more research is going to change what we know.Originally Posted by Dr Spaceman
Originally Posted by Mo Matik
Where did I make excuses for the Taliban? Where did OP make excuses for the Taliban? Quote it. Let's see it.
And again, what's the point of this thread if you're not gonna take a hard stance? is more research going to change what we do know, and is truth? not likely. So a bit more light is shed on the taliban, it again does not change anything, and it does not appear that you "proponents" want it changed. I hesitate to call you proponents because i don't even know what you are right now.
That's a really good example because, the back story strongly changes your perception of what happened.Originally Posted by Dr Spaceman
I can understand all that, and i will read ya'lls posts, it's always interesting to hear firsthand accounts (if true). but using an example: Man's wife in need of healthcare, can't afford it, takes loan. Now he's in deeper trouble, can't pay back, bank takes everything away from him, cuts off help to wife. He tries to rob the bank, but kills several people in the process, are you still sympathetic to that man's plight?
Originally Posted by soltheman
@ ignorance on NT.
Man please, you know exactly what the OP was trying to state with the way he opened up this thread. And here you are trying to pretend it's anything other than the equivalent of "Aw c'mon you guys, the Taliban are really just a bunch of misunderstood individuals." Stop trying to pull the burqa over people's heads.Originally Posted by SIRIUS LEE HANDSOME
Originally Posted by Mo Matik
Where did I make excuses for the Taliban? Where did OP make excuses for the Taliban? Quote it. Let's see it.A friend of mine linked me to the thread and I found it interesting that people thought Taliban were 'bad' people or however you look at it...don't get me wrong I wasn't surprised by the ignorance,
Man please, you know exactly what the OP was trying to state with the way he opened up this thread. And here you are trying to pretend it's anything other than the equivalent of "Aw c'mon you guys, the Taliban are really just a bunch of misunderstood individuals." Stop trying to pull the burqa over people's heads.Originally Posted by SIRIUS LEE HANDSOME
Originally Posted by Mo Matik
Where did I make excuses for the Taliban? Where did OP make excuses for the Taliban? Quote it. Let's see it.A friend of mine linked me to the thread and I found it interesting that people thought Taliban were 'bad' people or however you look at it...don't get me wrong I wasn't surprised by the ignorance,
I agree with that. I was just speaking in general. Just like me being against certain foreign policies of the American government, does not mean Iapprove of Taliban tactics. It is never so black and white.Originally Posted by Dr Spaceman
Disdain for taliban tactics does not equate to full support of the US Gov't. I think ninong put it best though, no organization is black or white, still does not absolve either side of anything.
Hazeleyed Honey wrote:
People will dog on the Taliban, but yet choose to support the U.S. government sending troops to kill of hundred of thousands of civilians in the country, as well as its torture of innocent detainees and prisoners of war, and support the drug corrupted warlord regime it put in place. Hypocrisy.
It's not like it's only one choice or the other therefore it's not hypocrisy. Nor is it ignorance. Imagine that -- ignorance because someonedoesn't support an extremist radical Islamic agenda such as one promoted by the Taliban. Imagine that.
At what point did civilized and informed people who don't agree with agendas that cause degradation, malfeasance and basic thievery of human rights come toget labeled as hypocritical and/or ignorant? Only when trying to discuss real-world situations with those who are actually hypocritical and ignorant --that's when.
I don't support the US sending troops to wherever in the world it feels like. I don't support the war machine that continues to create mass chaosthroughout the world.
That view has nothing to do with and is completely independent with me not seeing things the way some people in this thread are asking -- that we view theTaliban simply as "victims of bad public relations." Because that's the message I'm getting here. That we view groups like the Taliban withmore "understanding" because they've been given a bad break by either the US Government, the US media or some other historical fracas, which hasclearly not allowed people like me to come up with an opinion that agrees with people like the OP and other sympathizers of these Islamic extremists.
I know how the Taliban grew and eventually came to take hold of Afghanistan. That doesn't mean I'm giving them or anyone who asks to view things in amore "open minded" manner any leeway or sympathy when they try to convince me that groups like these are anything less than the fascist & vileradicals they are.