Kevin Samuels Thread

[spiderjericho]

I will testify under oath, in court that this is categorically false. This subject is beyond his depth.

No offense to Samuels. But all these dudes speaking out of their ***. They say what some folks want to hear and somehow get propelled into weird ideology. We saw the downfall of Jaxn. And this dude been promising a school. Meanwhile, Jalen Rose and Lebron put it into reality.

 

[Brownstone]

I will testify under oath, in court that this is categorically false. This subject is beyond his depth.

Every subject is lol

 

[deusavertat]

Every subject is lol

This

 

[WASHED KING]

Umar gotta leave these topics to the pro's like Mr. Samuels

Oh please, I could bag an Allison rn.

By doing the absolute bare minimum.

 

[kingsrborn]

A high percentage of what he's saying is true though, because the majority of caucasian people that have generational wealth do not, i repeat do not date down, let alone date down interracially. Im sure some of ya'll will name some random people who have, but I can name 10 people who haven't for your every 1. The ones I went to school with didn't, and the few that did got cut out of the families will/inheritance/family business as a result of the family finding out who they were dating.

For us as African Americans, we don't own or control our culture, and communities anymore. There's no order in place when we compare our people to other societies/nationalities/races because we willingly intergrated with our enemy. Not to turn this into a racial thread. But it's the truth. Im not racist, and I've had this discussion with people that are different nationalities from different religious backgrounds.

If there's no rules/order in place, why would the women, or anybody of that community feel that they have to operate in a manner that benefits their people, when they can be free to do whatever for their own personal gain. We'll never see these issues resolved in our lifetime because this is a western society problem. All of my friends that aren't from the west don't have this problem relationship wise, because they have balance and order and rules amongst their people. Think about when you're grandparents and great grandparents where alive, the black family unit/community was stronger and thriving back then.

Now since we've interrogated, we're more successful individually, but the Black family/Community has suffered in a result of everybody only worried about self, not about their people. Also the West has made the Black Woman the head/lead of our people right now, so why would they follow Black Men when in reality they don't have to. A nation is only as strong in it's leaders, women base decisions off of emotions, and that's how the majority of how everyone think nowadays, everybody is sensitive and emotional and selfish in the west, all female traits.

 

[aquatic barefoot]

For us as African Americans, we don't own or control our culture, and communities anymore. There's no order in place when we compare our people to other societies/nationalities/races because we willingly intergrated with our enemy. Not to turn this into a racial thread. But it's the truth. Im not racist, and I've had this discussion with people that are different nationalities from different religious backgrounds.

If there's no rules/order in place, why would the women, or anybody of that community feel that they have to operate in a manner that benefits their people, when they can be free to do whatever for their own personal gain. We'll never see these issues resolved in our lifetime because this is a western society problem. All of my friends that aren't from the west don't have this problem relationship wise, because they have balance and order and rules amongst their people. Think about when you're grandparents and great grandparents where alive, the black family unit/community was stronger and thriving back then.

Now since we've interrogated, we're more successful individually, but the Black family/Community has suffered in a result of everybody only worried about self, not about their people.

Keep going bruh; the conversation is heading in this direction eventually.

 

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[tomdiginson]

I agree with this to a certain degree. You'll see white women who were passed around by Dustin, Scott and Justin and then they decide to give it a go with some aloof brother who thinks he's found his queen when in reality she couldn't get a "good quality" guy within her own race to take her serious. I'm not saying this is the case all the time, but sometimes this does happen. And it's not always the Meth heads and the obese women as some of yall have said.

 

[KHUFU]

A nation is only as strong in it's leaders, women base decisions off of emotions, and that's how the majority of how everyone think nowadays, everybody is sensitive and emotional and selfish in the west, all female traits.

P Present , you agree with this?!
deusavertat
Would you like to do the honors, or shall I step in on this one?!

 

[Present]

P Present , you agree with this?!
deusavertat
Would you like to do the honors, or shall I step in on this one?!

1. "A nation is only as strong as its leaders"

Leaders as in the heads of a household (Mothers and Fathers), religious / philosophical leaders, leaders of industry, elected officials in government, military leaders, or all of the above?

In general - I agree. Leadership is vital to the survival of a Nation.

2. "Women base decisions off of emotions"

As a blanket statement - I do not agree.

3. "That's how the majority of how everyone think nowadays"

Disagree.

4. "Everybody is sensitive and emotional and selfish in the west, all female traits"

Yes - I agree that "being emotional" & "being sensitive" are considered "female" traits in most cultures.

No - I disagree that "being selfish" is considered a "female" trait in most cultures.

kingsborn might need to elaborate a bit and unpack the claims being made.

While I do believe there is merit to the notion that women are offered a much wider range of emotional latitude in society than men, I do not agree with the absolute statement that "women base decisions off of emotions".

I believe all humans are capable of being emotive, be they a male or a female.

My personal philosophy is that a humans sex / gender does not define their ability to lead.

I believe a human's capability to lead successfully (knowledge, skills, ability) should be the only determining factor that defines their place in the hierarchy of leadership...which is why I do not agree with the notion that "women make better leaders" or "men make better leaders".

I've served under the command of both women and men and I can tell you this much...their private parts were of no consequence when the **** hit the fan.

Whether or not a culture evolves to be a matriarchy or a patriarchy should be based on which best serves the people of said culture.

What works for one culture / environment may not work for the next culture / environment.

For example:

Nubia (Kush), Sudan
"The Nubians [have] an unusually high number of ruling queens, especially during the golden age of the Meroitic Kingdom [or modern-day Sudan]," writes Tara L. Kneller in Neither Goddesses nor Doormats: The Role of Women in Nubia. "Although ruling queens, in themselves, may not be unusual, the portrayal of Nubian queen is exceptional." Kneller describes a panel on display at the 1993 exhibit Nubia: Egypt's Rival in Africa depicting a queen smiting her enemies and notes that women in Nubia exercised significant control over society. Nubian warrior queens fought for the interest of the Nubian/Ku****e Empire, and many Nubians worshipped the queen of all goddesses, Isis.

A Look at 5 Matriarchal Societies Throughout History

Here's an inspiring look at matriarchal societies through the ages

www.brides.com

 

[KHUFU]

1. "A nation is only as strong as its leaders"

Leaders as in the heads of a household (Mothers and Fathers), religious / philosophical leaders, leaders of industry, elected officials in government, military leaders, or all of the above?

In general - I agree. Leadership is vital to the survival of a Nation.

2. "Women base decisions off of emotions"

As a blanket statement - I do not agree.

3. "That's how the majority of how everyone think nowadays"

Disagree.

4. "Everybody is sensitive and emotional and selfish in the west, all female traits"

Yes - I agree that "being emotional" & "being sensitive" are considered "female" traits in most cultures.

No - I disagree that "being selfish" is considered a "female" trait in most cultures.

kingsborn might need to elaborate a bit and unpack the claims being made.

While I do believe there is merit to the notion that women are offered a much wider range of emotional latitude in society than men, I do not agree with the absolute statement that "women base decisions off of emotions".

I believe all humans are capable of being emotive, be they a male or a female.

My personal philosophy is that a humans sex / gender does not define their ability to lead.

I believe a human's capability to lead successfully (knowledge, skills, ability) should be the only determining factor that defines their place in the hierarchy of leadership...which is why I do not agree with the notion that "women make better leaders" or "men make better leaders".

I've served under the command of both women and men and I can tell you this much...their private parts were of no consequence when the **** hit the fan.

Whether or not a culture evolves to be a matriarchy or a patriarchy should be based on which best serves the people of said culture.

What works for one culture / environment may not work for the next culture / environment.

For example:

Nubia (Kush), Sudan
"The Nubians [have] an unusually high number of ruling queens, especially during the golden age of the Meroitic Kingdom [or modern-day Sudan]," writes Tara L. Kneller in Neither Goddesses nor Doormats: The Role of Women in Nubia. "Although ruling queens, in themselves, may not be unusual, the portrayal of Nubian queen is exceptional." Kneller describes a panel on display at the 1993 exhibit Nubia: Egypt's Rival in Africa depicting a queen smiting her enemies and notes that women in Nubia exercised significant control over society. Nubian warrior queens fought for the interest of the Nubian/Ku****e Empire, and many Nubians worshipped the queen of all goddesses, Isis.

A Look at 5 Matriarchal Societies Throughout History

Here's an inspiring look at matriarchal societies through the ages

www.brides.com

Don't forget the Amazons, of whom actually existed.

 

[Present]

Don't forget the Amazons, of whom actually existed.

You just cant drop a bomb like that Bro!

Got me out here with images of golden lassos and invisible jets

Will that be a First class ticket to Wakanda?

Naaaah, Themyscira please Ma'am.

 

[KHUFU]

You just cant drop a bomb like that Bro!

Got me out here with images of golden lassos and invisible jets

Will that be a First class ticket to Wakanda?

Naaaah, Themyscira please Ma'am.

There were Amazons in both of what we call Europe and on the continent of Africa as well. I believe one of the episodes of LoveCraft County delved into it a bit. As stated, men did not always exist on the plane of existence. So as men began to encounter these all female civilizations, things became awkward indeed.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

White men absolutely date down There’s whole websites for young women to sign up and be “sugar babies” for rich white men. What the hell is he talking about?

 

[KHUFU]

White men absolutely date down There’s whole websites for young women to sign up and be “sugar babies” for rich white men. What the hell is he talking about?

Mail order brides.

 

[blakep267]

Nah that ain’t love lol.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Nah that ain’t love lol.

I don't think it has anything to do with LOVE.

Some people can simply have unconventional arrangements.

 

[blakep267]

I will testify under oath, in court that this is categorically false. This subject is beyond his depth.

So it depends on how he classifies rich. Well off people of all races usually don’t marry down.

 

[marikomorose]

Nah that ain’t love lol.

How do u know this for certain, she's speaking on her parents?

 

[deusavertat]

I agree with this to a certain degree. You'll see white women who were passed around by Dustin, Scott and Justin and then they decide to give it a go with some aloof brother who thinks he's found his queen when in reality she couldn't get a "good quality" guy within her own race to take her serious. I'm not saying this is the case all the time, but sometimes this does happen. And it's not always the Meth heads and the obese women as some of yall have said.

Most quality men and women of every race don't date down. The black men dating these women ain't exactly 6ft4 rich doctors who look like Idris Elba (pause). For the most part people stay within their social class and circle. Broke white dudes from Kentucky don't marry rich socialite white women from nyc either.

 

[KHUFU]

So it depends on how he classifies rich. Well off people of all races usually don’t marry down.

Explain mail order brides.

There is this whole thing due to misogyny, about having a submissive wife. I mean, this thread is proof of such.

 

[tay1]

So much can be said about this but of course there’s never any accountability involved

 

[marikomorose]

Explain mail order brides.

There is this whole thing due to misogyny, about having a submissive wife. I mean, this thread is proof of such.

@MattGaetz

u get what u bargain for.

 

[blakep267]

Explain mail order brides.

There is this whole thing due to misogyny, about having a submissive wife. I mean, this thread is proof of such.

Mail order brides often are for those incel or super dominant guys who want a servant. That has nothing to do with wealth. Anybody can have that personality. I’m saying you will rarely see a neurosurgeon dating a target employee. You would have to go out of your world to even meet that kind of person.

also I should rephrase as it’s not always about money but about status. Your IG model with 2 million followers isn’t as wealthy as a basketball player, but they are in the same realm and she’s positioned herself above the average woman. Draya probably reads at a 4th grade level but she’s 1000x prettier than the college professor . Both the athlete and the model don’t date down. It’s why you see the same women get passed around and eventually one of the guys wifes them

 

[aepps20]

@MattGaetz

u get what u bargain for.

@delk