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**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins
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Whats literally every team in need of?
Warriors got hurt in the finals and JVG and Mark screaming they need guys to come in and make shots
Raptors top 3-4 bench players provide what? SHOOTING
Aint happening.
Warriors got hurt in the finals and JVG and Mark screaming they need guys to come in and make shots
Raptors top 3-4 bench players provide what? SHOOTING
Aint happening.
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You have more of a chance to grab 1 big fish than 2-3 mediums in a short window
I bet I'll be closer than 2.5
I bet I'll be closer than 2.5
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At least Dave out here being sensible and not on whatever Woj and Windy on.
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If Kawhi does come it would kill your narrative that nobody wants to play Bron
And if he doesn't it proves me right.
Kemba is eligible for 220ish.
We can only offer him 140ish.
Kawhi might lose a little money, but not 80 million. And I know the odds are long, but so many leaks adding up. Cuffs, Damon Jones, Chris Broussard.......damn, nevermind.
But I also remember Woj tweeting after signing Bron Kawhi still wanted to be traded here, but Pop......
Now we have AD.
You can play with old Marc Gasol and old Kyle Lowry
Or
Old LeBron James and prime AD, in LA.
We can only offer him 140ish.
Kawhi might lose a little money, but not 80 million. And I know the odds are long, but so many leaks adding up. Cuffs, Damon Jones, Chris Broussard.......damn, nevermind.
But I also remember Woj tweeting after signing Bron Kawhi still wanted to be traded here, but Pop......
Now we have AD.
You can play with old Marc Gasol and old Kyle Lowry
Or
Old LeBron James and prime AD, in LA.
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Langston Galloway got 7 mil, Delladova got 9 mil, Clarkson 12.5, Snell 10.5, Powell 9.5, Green 10, Covington 10.5
Yeah guys, low-mid players are 7-12 mil a year minimum.
Go get a big fish.
Yeah guys, low-mid players are 7-12 mil a year minimum.
Go get a big fish.
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Woj is a Danny Ainge proxy lol
Windy salty cuz bron cut him off and put him on a restraining order
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Watch the Lakers pick up Carmelo
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Hey if I can see Lala and that mass I’ll roll with it...
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Rather look at Ramona all day than have Melo on this team
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Top Lakers free-agent targets to play with LeBron and Anthony Davis
I think Danny green is gonna be too expensive considering how many spots we need to fill. Pass on Avery Bradley too.
Which players might the L.A. Lakers target in free agency if they don't have max cap space?
If the Lakers complete their reported deal with the New Orleans Pelicans for Anthony Davis on July 6 and Davis opts not to waive his $4 million trade bonus, the Lakers project to have a maximum of $23.7 million in cap space, according to reporting by ESPN's Bobby Marks. That wouldn't be enough for the Lakers to realistically target a third star to go with Davis and LeBron James.
Instead, the Lakers would surely be better off splitting that money among multiple role players, as well as using the room midlevel estimated at $4.8 million to add depth to a roster that will feature just five players under guaranteed contract after the trade -- none of them guards. Here's a look at some free agents who might make sense for the Lakers.
Point guards
Patrick Beverley | LA Clippers
Stealing Beverley from the rival Clippers would be a coup for the Lakers, who could offer him a better chance at starting if the Clippers sign a wing free agent to go with young guards Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Landry Shamet. Beverley has quietly developed into a reliable 3-point shooter, having shot 40% beyond the arc during two seasons with the Clippers, and he remains one of the league's most dogged on-ball defenders in his early 30s (Beverley will turn 31 in July).
On the downside, the Lakers would be counting on Beverley -- originally drafted by L.A. before being dealt on draft night -- staying healthy. Last year's 78 games played were a career high for Beverley, who missed 71 games in 2017-18 due to a meniscus injury that required season-ending surgery.
Alex Caruso | L.A. Lakers
On two-way contracts with the Lakers the past two seasons, Caruso averaged 17.2 points and 8.4 assists in five April games, four of them starts. He's a good enough 3-point shooter (36% career in the G League) to play off the ball and a reliable option as a backup point guard. If the Lakers could re-sign Caruso to a full NBA contract at the veteran's minimum as a restricted free agent, he'd provide valuable depth.
Darren Collison | Indiana Pacers
A Southern California native who played at UCLA, Collison could look to return home after two years starting at the point for the Pacers, who have younger Aaron Holiday as their point guard of the future. Collison is an excellent catch-and-shoot option, having led the league in 3-point percentage in 2017-18 (47%) and shot 39% in his career. The concern is whether the undersized Collison (listed at an even 6 feet) could hold up defensively deep in the playoffs. He hasn't started a game beyond the first round of the postseason in his NBA career.
George Hill | Milwaukee Bucks
Because just $1 million of Hill's $18 million 2019-20 salary is guaranteed through July 1, the Bucks will likely waive him before the end of June, making him an unrestricted free agent. Hill played with LeBron in Cleveland in 2018, and although that time is remembered as disappointing, Hill started 18 games and averaged 29 minutes per game. His real issue was a poorly timed slump from beyond the arc (31% in those year's playoffs, as compared to 37% in the postseason over his career). Given Hill's size and defensive versatility, he'd be a good fit for the Lakers.
Shooting guards
Avery Bradley | Memphis Grizzlies
Like Hill, Bradley is expected to be waived ahead of his $13 million 2019-20 salary becoming fully guaranteed on July 3. Bradley is coming off a difficult season in which he posted a dismal 46.4 true shooting percentage with the Clippers before being dealt to Memphis at the deadline. (League average last year was 56%.)
Bradley's defensive ability has long been overrated because he is elite on the ball but a nonfactor as a help defender. Still, that reputation plus 36% career 3-point shooting could make Bradley an option for the Lakers.
Reggie Bullock | L.A. Lakers
If the Lakers end up with sub-max space, it dramatically increases the value of Bullock's modest $4.75 million cap hold. The Lakers could keep that on the books and then go over the cap to re-sign Bullock for a larger amount. He started 16 of the 19 games he played for the Lakers after a pre-deadline trade with the Detroit Pistons, and though Bullock shot a below-average 34% on 3s in that span, he's a career 39% shooter beyond the arc.
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope | L.A. Lakers
After dismal October shooting that cost him a starting job at shooting guard, Caldwell-Pope rallied to post the best true shooting percentage of his career (56.8%, slightly better than league average). Caldwell-Pope isn't quite a good enough 3-point shooter (34.5% career) to be an ideal fit with LeBron and Davis, but he's a far more efficient scorer than Bradley, as well as more effective as an off-ball defender and two years younger. If Caldwell-Pope finds the market cool, a return to the Lakers at a pay cut from last year's $12 million salary would make sense.
Danny Green | Toronto Raptors
By far the best fit on the market for the Lakers' short-term needs, Green again proved his value to a championship team during the Raptors' title run despite struggling from 3-point range in the conference finals.
At 6-foot-6, Green is capable of guarding any of the three perimeter spots, and he bounced back from three down seasons to make 45.5% of his 3s during the 2018-19 regular season. If the Lakers could get him for less than $15 million a year, spending on Green and skimping on a point guard might make sense given James will be the team's primary playmaker.
Frontcourt players
Trevor Ariza | Washington Wizards
By all accounts, the Lakers aggressively pursued Ariza last fall before the Phoenix Sunsinstead dealt him to the Wizards. Though Ariza is a small forward by trade, he could still make sense in L.A. After all, Ariza is going to defend the opposition's best wing scorer regardless of what position he's nominally playing, and LeBron supplies much of the secondary ballhandling teams usually want from their shooting guard. So if the price is right, perhaps we will still see Ariza return to the Lakers after winning a championship in L.A. in 2009.
Nerlens Noel | Oklahoma City Thunder
A client of Klutch Sports, the agency for both Davis and LeBron, Noel must decide soon on a $2 million player option to remain with the Thunder for a second season.
The Lakers could beat that using the room exception, and though Noel wouldn't have a clear path to a starting job in L.A., he could play both alongside and behind Davis. That could translate to a larger role than the 13.7 minutes Noel averaged in Oklahoma City.
Limited offensively, Noel would still be a defensive upgrade on JaVale McGee at center. His plus-3.8 defensive rating last season in ESPN's real plus-minus ranked third-best in the NBA.
If the Lakers complete their reported deal with the New Orleans Pelicans for Anthony Davis on July 6 and Davis opts not to waive his $4 million trade bonus, the Lakers project to have a maximum of $23.7 million in cap space, according to reporting by ESPN's Bobby Marks. That wouldn't be enough for the Lakers to realistically target a third star to go with Davis and LeBron James.
Instead, the Lakers would surely be better off splitting that money among multiple role players, as well as using the room midlevel estimated at $4.8 million to add depth to a roster that will feature just five players under guaranteed contract after the trade -- none of them guards. Here's a look at some free agents who might make sense for the Lakers.
Point guards
Patrick Beverley | LA Clippers
Stealing Beverley from the rival Clippers would be a coup for the Lakers, who could offer him a better chance at starting if the Clippers sign a wing free agent to go with young guards Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Landry Shamet. Beverley has quietly developed into a reliable 3-point shooter, having shot 40% beyond the arc during two seasons with the Clippers, and he remains one of the league's most dogged on-ball defenders in his early 30s (Beverley will turn 31 in July).
On the downside, the Lakers would be counting on Beverley -- originally drafted by L.A. before being dealt on draft night -- staying healthy. Last year's 78 games played were a career high for Beverley, who missed 71 games in 2017-18 due to a meniscus injury that required season-ending surgery.
Alex Caruso | L.A. Lakers
On two-way contracts with the Lakers the past two seasons, Caruso averaged 17.2 points and 8.4 assists in five April games, four of them starts. He's a good enough 3-point shooter (36% career in the G League) to play off the ball and a reliable option as a backup point guard. If the Lakers could re-sign Caruso to a full NBA contract at the veteran's minimum as a restricted free agent, he'd provide valuable depth.
Darren Collison | Indiana Pacers
A Southern California native who played at UCLA, Collison could look to return home after two years starting at the point for the Pacers, who have younger Aaron Holiday as their point guard of the future. Collison is an excellent catch-and-shoot option, having led the league in 3-point percentage in 2017-18 (47%) and shot 39% in his career. The concern is whether the undersized Collison (listed at an even 6 feet) could hold up defensively deep in the playoffs. He hasn't started a game beyond the first round of the postseason in his NBA career.
George Hill | Milwaukee Bucks
Because just $1 million of Hill's $18 million 2019-20 salary is guaranteed through July 1, the Bucks will likely waive him before the end of June, making him an unrestricted free agent. Hill played with LeBron in Cleveland in 2018, and although that time is remembered as disappointing, Hill started 18 games and averaged 29 minutes per game. His real issue was a poorly timed slump from beyond the arc (31% in those year's playoffs, as compared to 37% in the postseason over his career). Given Hill's size and defensive versatility, he'd be a good fit for the Lakers.
Shooting guards
Avery Bradley | Memphis Grizzlies
Like Hill, Bradley is expected to be waived ahead of his $13 million 2019-20 salary becoming fully guaranteed on July 3. Bradley is coming off a difficult season in which he posted a dismal 46.4 true shooting percentage with the Clippers before being dealt to Memphis at the deadline. (League average last year was 56%.)
Bradley's defensive ability has long been overrated because he is elite on the ball but a nonfactor as a help defender. Still, that reputation plus 36% career 3-point shooting could make Bradley an option for the Lakers.
Reggie Bullock | L.A. Lakers
If the Lakers end up with sub-max space, it dramatically increases the value of Bullock's modest $4.75 million cap hold. The Lakers could keep that on the books and then go over the cap to re-sign Bullock for a larger amount. He started 16 of the 19 games he played for the Lakers after a pre-deadline trade with the Detroit Pistons, and though Bullock shot a below-average 34% on 3s in that span, he's a career 39% shooter beyond the arc.
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope | L.A. Lakers
After dismal October shooting that cost him a starting job at shooting guard, Caldwell-Pope rallied to post the best true shooting percentage of his career (56.8%, slightly better than league average). Caldwell-Pope isn't quite a good enough 3-point shooter (34.5% career) to be an ideal fit with LeBron and Davis, but he's a far more efficient scorer than Bradley, as well as more effective as an off-ball defender and two years younger. If Caldwell-Pope finds the market cool, a return to the Lakers at a pay cut from last year's $12 million salary would make sense.
Danny Green | Toronto Raptors
By far the best fit on the market for the Lakers' short-term needs, Green again proved his value to a championship team during the Raptors' title run despite struggling from 3-point range in the conference finals.
At 6-foot-6, Green is capable of guarding any of the three perimeter spots, and he bounced back from three down seasons to make 45.5% of his 3s during the 2018-19 regular season. If the Lakers could get him for less than $15 million a year, spending on Green and skimping on a point guard might make sense given James will be the team's primary playmaker.
Frontcourt players
Trevor Ariza | Washington Wizards
By all accounts, the Lakers aggressively pursued Ariza last fall before the Phoenix Sunsinstead dealt him to the Wizards. Though Ariza is a small forward by trade, he could still make sense in L.A. After all, Ariza is going to defend the opposition's best wing scorer regardless of what position he's nominally playing, and LeBron supplies much of the secondary ballhandling teams usually want from their shooting guard. So if the price is right, perhaps we will still see Ariza return to the Lakers after winning a championship in L.A. in 2009.
Nerlens Noel | Oklahoma City Thunder
A client of Klutch Sports, the agency for both Davis and LeBron, Noel must decide soon on a $2 million player option to remain with the Thunder for a second season.
The Lakers could beat that using the room exception, and though Noel wouldn't have a clear path to a starting job in L.A., he could play both alongside and behind Davis. That could translate to a larger role than the 13.7 minutes Noel averaged in Oklahoma City.
Limited offensively, Noel would still be a defensive upgrade on JaVale McGee at center. His plus-3.8 defensive rating last season in ESPN's real plus-minus ranked third-best in the NBA.
I think Danny green is gonna be too expensive considering how many spots we need to fill. Pass on Avery Bradley too.
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IDGAF. if we land Kawhi and have Bron/AD
I want Vince Carter on this damn team. DGASF
I want Vince Carter on this damn team. DGASF
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I say we throw the bag at IT and JJ barea.
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Collison and George Hill feels like 2012 again. George hill for kawhi - up there with the biggest fleece to kobe-vlade, gasol-kwame.
crazy how avery and nerlens fell off from being top college recruits.
Give Caruso the keys. The goat #4 laker, baldspot heir to manu.
crazy how avery and nerlens fell off from being top college recruits.
Give Caruso the keys. The goat #4 laker, baldspot heir to manu.
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Out that list i like the thought of Hill maybe. Nerlens could be a good fit also (although I think Dedmon has to be a better fit). Pat Bev isn't bad either considering we won't need much playmaking from him. Bullock i think is a lock to come back.
Only problem with that list of players is that even in best case scenario's we don't have anyone to actually create offense for themselves outside of Bron/Kuz/AD & in terms of creating for others it would be Lebron. The buyout market is gonna be HUGE for us this year.
Only problem with that list of players is that even in best case scenario's we don't have anyone to actually create offense for themselves outside of Bron/Kuz/AD & in terms of creating for others it would be Lebron. The buyout market is gonna be HUGE for us this year.
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Pat Bev going to get at least 10 mil looks like. Yikes.
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Don't know if Bron and rose could coexist but he'd be a nice option if they can. Beverley/collison/rondo/rose are the PG targets I would think
