**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

[CP1708]

thats pretty much what good coaches do when their starters are getting dominated.

pop does it. kerr does it. phil did it.

but hey keep lying to yourself that vogel isnt bad at his job.

K.

How does Pop do without elite players?
How does Kerr do it without elite players?
How did Phil do without elite players?

They all sucked. That's the answer.

Phil won 11 titles. Give him Kwame, Smush, and Luke and he was out in Round 1 back to back years.

 

[CP1708]

Bron making 83% of his free throws since ASB.

 

[noblekane]

lebron is the only guy who wants to win.

 

[DLF]

Steve Kerr THIS year.

27-6 with Draymond.
15-14 without Draymond.

Maybe he coaches differently those 29 games...... *shrugs*

In all those games they tried hard and played their game

Vogel is archaic. He started DJ 23 games. That’s all you need to know about that loser. Too slow to adjust

 

[Brosizzlew30.23]

T errible
H orton
T ucker

Ship his sorry *** out too

 

[CP1708]

So what you're basically saying is that coaching is.....inconsequential?

I'm saying nothing. I'll ask you.

Kerr with Steph, Durant, Klay, Dray. Titles.
Without them, missed playoffs.

Phil with elite guys won all the titles.
With Smush, Kwame, Luke starting lost in first round to MDA back to back years.

Pop with multiple HOFers = titles. They gone, Pop missin playoffs now.

Vogel won a title 18 months ago with Bron/AD bunch of defensive guys.
Now 8 games below .500

You decide. They forget how to coach, or.....?

 

[grittyman]

Why does this always have to be an either or situation, both can be true…

Roster sucks.
Coaching sucks.

 

[darthska]

Steve Kerr THIS year.

27-6 with Draymond.
15-14 without Draymond.

Maybe he coaches differently those 29 games...... *shrugs*

Ooooh, fun! Now do Ty Lue without PG & Kawhi!



-foe

 

[noblekane]

the line up of

melo
tht
bradley
sugustin
westbrook

is back in again

4 players in this line up are top 4 in negative tonight

 

[CP1708]

Ooooh, fun! Now do Ty Lue without PG & Kawhi!



-foe

The 8th seed. Likely out in round 1.

Are we trying, or....?

 

[CP1708]

Why does this always have to be an either or situation, both can be true…

Roster sucks.
Coaching sucks.

So Vogel sucked in 2020 then, yes?

 

[grittyman]

So Vogel sucked in 2020 then, yes?

I had a lot of the same complaints… no offense, weird rotations, communication with players, etc.

 

[CP1708]

I had a lot of the same complaints… no offense, weird rotations, communication with players, etc.

And they won the Title.

It's almost like......

 

[noblekane]

despite the hate westbrook is playing well tonight.

 

[darthska]

They forget how to coach, or.....?

..... players matter MORE THAN coaching, but coaching also matters a lot.

A LOT.

Flour is far more important of an ingredient to a cake than baking soda, but baking soda matters a lot.

A LOT.

This is seriously so easy to comprehend that I have to think you are intentionally not getting it.

Even though we won the championship 2 seasons ago, we lost a lot of games that we shouldn't have, not with the AD and Lebron we had and the roster construction we had. It was not a perfect season, and with a better coach, there would have been a lot less doubt along the way to that championship. Presenting the black-and-white scenario that he won the championship so now he's right up there with Red Auerbach fails to see the gray area. He could have done better. We could have done better.

A good coach matters a lot. Elite players matter more.

It's not this OR that.

Gray area. Multiple facets.

-foe

 

[grittyman]

And they won the Title.

It's almost like......

They had the two best players in the world during that playoff run?

 

[noblekane]

please get tht the **** out of the game.

 

[darthska]

And they won the Title.

It's almost like......

.... a better coach could have done even better that regular season and also won a championship, and still continued to be a good coach the NEXT season instead of barely a play-in result.

-foe

 

[pmatic]

THT a complete zero tonight on defense.

 

[tupac003]

Lol C CP1708 never change bro...lol

This bottle is hitting man. This whiskey melted an entire ice cube and it's still strong.

You know what isn't strong? Our ability to hit open 3's...

 

[noblekane]

They had the two best players in the world during that playoff run?

 

[darthska]

The 8th seed. Likely out in round 1.

Are we trying, or....?

But still a winning record. Still a gritty performance night in and night out. Still ahead of us.

Wait, I forgot, ONLY championships matter to black and white thinking. The only team in the NBA right now is the Milwaukee Bucks. Everyone else is simply not the Milwaukee Bucks. Clippers being better than us with a winning record and literally on top of us without their 2 stars doesn't matter, because there is simply the Milwaukee Bucks and everyone else.

-foe

 

[tupac003]

THT a complete zero.

Fixed

 

[CP1708]

They had the two best players in the world during that playoff run?

You realize you made my point, right?

 

[tupac003]

Bron out here telling the world it ain't my fault. Lol