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Y’all are really delusional.
Happy New Year’s Y’all. Wish y’all the best
Delusional is people thinking teams were lining up to offer 38.5 year old Lebron the max this coming summer.
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Delusional is people thinking teams were lining up to offer 38.5 year old Lebron the max this coming summer.
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Bruh wylin
Y’all are really delusional.
Happy New Year’s Y’all. Wish y’all the best
Guarantee if Bron was UFA he’s getting a max,even at this age.He’s worth that investment on revenue alone.
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Bruh wylin
Guarantee if Bron was UFA he’s getting a max,even at this age.He’s worth that investment on revenue alone.
Of course he’s worth it but it’s high risk because of his age. I don’t think any team gave his camp any indication they were going free up space for him; otherwise why wouldn’t he entertain free agency? If it’s because of his family and all that non basketball stuff, that’s fine. Then it’s not about winning like he says otherwise he’d explore free agency
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Bron still got at least two years after this. He's just a complete anomaly.
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I'm actually on board with that IF...
That's probably the path I would pursue IF...
... what you're talking about is basically moving forward with AD being a... I don't even know what to call it... a non-necessary superstar?
Something like Drexler on the 2nd Rockets title, Rodman on the 2nd Bulls 3peat. Not that Rodman is a superstar, but his role on the team was definitely not defined as 'We have to have this guy in order to win.' No, they already won a 3peat without him, but having him certainly made them that much better.Counting on him as a reliable, primary member of the roster, that's just foolish at this point. I get that it's foolish to just write him off, too.
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Never count out Lebron. He is an all time great.
But the guy that's supposed to be helping just hasn't been able to stay on the floor.
Has nothing to do with doom and gloom, it's just facts.
Yes we have seen Bron and AD win a title...a title where both players got a long break before the playoffs.
Since that time AD has missed significant time each year...once again not doom and gloom...just facts.
Now...it's interesting that someone said we are close to winning a title yet yall have been trashing the roster all year...
So which one is it?
But the guy that's supposed to be helping just hasn't been able to stay on the floor.
Has nothing to do with doom and gloom, it's just facts.
Yes we have seen Bron and AD win a title...a title where both players got a long break before the playoffs.
Since that time AD has missed significant time each year...once again not doom and gloom...just facts.
Now...it's interesting that someone said we are close to winning a title yet yall have been trashing the roster all year...
So which one is it?
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As great as he is, we’re 12-16 with Lebron this season. Roster is poorly constructed. He extended with this bad organization/front office and injury prone AD when he could’ve explored free agency with all those max offers waiting for him
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Let
The mfr is averaging 30-8-8 and playing at prime levels.
Bron is UNTRADEABLE and idgaf if he in his 21st year. You build around him and get him championship level pieces.
People ain't knowing - The KING IS THE OUTLIER
In fact when Kareem was 38 he still average 23 ppg and was still an All-Star center in the NBA although it was clear he wasn't the same Kareem. But....he still was putting up numbers although guys like Olajuwon and Moses Malone were already outplaying him.
But did Buss trade Kareem? Hell no. Instead he added former 20 ppg scorer Mychal Thompson TO HELP KAREEM take on less of the load.
These Lakers today gotta do the same for Bron and AD.
All the Lakers need to do is get in the playoffs because I will ride with Bron and a solid supporting cast in a 28-game postseason tournament as long as Bron has 1) shooters, 2) Impact Bigs, 3) Length, and 4) another ABLE BODIED superstar capable of taking over games playing alongside him (aka a D-Wade type).
Let's not act like LeBron James is averaging 14 ppg and 4 apg.
The mfr is averaging 30-8-8 and playing at prime levels.
Bron is UNTRADEABLE and idgaf if he in his 21st year. You build around him and get him championship level pieces.
People ain't knowing - The KING IS THE OUTLIER
In fact when Kareem was 38 he still average 23 ppg and was still an All-Star center in the NBA although it was clear he wasn't the same Kareem. But....he still was putting up numbers although guys like Olajuwon and Moses Malone were already outplaying him.
But did Buss trade Kareem? Hell no. Instead he added former 20 ppg scorer Mychal Thompson TO HELP KAREEM take on less of the load.
These Lakers today gotta do the same for Bron and AD.
All the Lakers need to do is get in the playoffs because I will ride with Bron and a solid supporting cast in a 28-game postseason tournament as long as Bron has 1) shooters, 2) Impact Bigs, 3) Length, and 4) another ABLE BODIED superstar capable of taking over games playing alongside him (aka a D-Wade type).
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darthska
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I'm actually on board with that IF...
That's probably the path I would pursue IF...
... what you're talking about is basically moving forward with AD being a... I don't even know what to call it... a non-necessary superstar?
Counting on him as a reliable, primary member of the roster, that's just foolish at this point. I get that it's foolish to just write him off, too.
C CP1708 ?
What you're describing is Andrew Bynum.
Kobe/Pau/LO could carry the 7-8-9 months season.
Bynum was the luxury if he played 20-30 games etc we were damn near unbeatable.
Russ was SUPPOSED to be the piece to help carry the 7-8-9 months and lighten the load on Bron/AD. But the balance of the roster is nowhere close enough to contributing.
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what did they sweep? what did i miss? last i saw it was just a harmless debate about trade or not trading bron and ad?
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When I say doom & gloom on AD,is y’all saying when he comes back he’s just gonna get injured again.
All I’m saying is the energy you put out there is the energy you get back and hopefully you aren’t looking for a “I told you so” moment
All I’m saying is the energy you put out there is the energy you get back and hopefully you aren’t looking for a “I told you so” moment
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Which is why I'm almost certain Pelinka will make a trade or two.
Lakers ain't foolish enough to not act with any urgency.
A capable and savvy GM will let go of at least one of the 27 and 29 FRP's to bring in the right pieces and be confident enough to know that he can recover those FRP's in thr future because at the end of the day, winning cures everything.
We win now, value of all our players skyrocket. Hence, leverage in the future to recoup lost picks
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Which is why Pelinka said, and I quote...Those were exciting wins, absolutely.But just because we gave them hell at the beginning of the season does not mean that we are super close to beating 4 of the league's best teams in back-to-back-to-back-to-back series without ever losing more than 3 games in any of those series. That's what it takes to win a championship. There is no reason to believe we're super close to that, not even with a decent trade. It would have to be an Earth shattering Kwame-for-Pau trade.
"We have one shot at it..."
This is Pelinka referring to trading one or two FRP's to acquire the missing piece(s)
Lakers mgmt has no choice but to go all in.
If they half-*** it, they'll get half-*** results.
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Exactly.
Take the load off AD aka acquire a Mychal Thompson (Turner) to AD'S Kareem.
This is a TEAM GAME. Even Pip and Mike needed Bill Cartwright, Luc Longley, Horace Grant, Bill Wennington, Dennis Rodman, Cliff Levingston, Scott Williams, and Bisin Dele
darthska
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This is demonstrably false. There are hundreds of dozens of people who have been all 'No problem! He'll miss a few weeks and then he'll come back and be the best 2 way player in the league again, you'll see and we'll be unstoppable!'
And that absolutely has not happened. And they have been saying that for 3 years. Are they not putting that energy out into the universe hard enough? They need to hope and wish and 'thoughts & prayers' harder?
There is no magical 'The words you speak COME TRUE so watch it!' force breaking AD's bones.
He's fragile. That's not an insult; it's a fair observation. Putting it 'out in the universe' that he will no longer be fragile won't make him not fragile.
I want absolutely nothing more than for AD to come back, play 40 minutes a night in EVERY GAME, putting up 28/13/5/2/2 on 55/33/88 like the unicorn he is.
Then I want him to do it again next year.
And the next.
But.........based on what we've seen, what we know.....what has the better odds? Him dominating like that, or him bein out again by Valentine's Day?
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I can almost guarantee Lakers win the chip in '29-'30
'79-'80 chip
'99-'00 chip
'09-'10 chip
'19-'20 chip
It's a pattern lol
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He’s been consistently at 60 games or more games his entire career minus the last 2 seasons.I feel like those last 2 seasons are an anomaly and he’ll probably get to 50 or above this season
So, as he gets older, he'll get healthier?
Missed 150-200 games thru his 20's but will somehow be stronger as he reaches his 30's?
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We ain't close to winning a title. That's just pie in the sky.
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Nobody in this thread wants AD to be hurt.
If you look at this thread thr start of the season, we all said in order for us to have a shot, Bron and AD have to play and be healthy in the majority of the games this year.
Both players have missed time on top of a poorly constructed roster.
We want nothing more then AD to play 70 games plus year in and year out...but he continues to prove he can't do that and it has nothing to do with our energy.
Nobody in here wants an I told you so moment on one of our own guys being hurt...
That just doesn't make one ounce of sense.
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Lol
In '07 we weren't close to winning a title with Kwame, Cook, and Smush and one year later we were right back in the Finals after acquiring Pau.
In other words that pie in the sky came crashing down to earth in a Blink of an eye
The 2022 Lakers, if their 2 stars are 100% healthy, are 2-3 impact players away from being a title contender.
Just gotta get rid of the weak links (Bev, Nunn, Jones) and have the balls to include either the 27 or the 29, or both....And maybe even 6 MOY candidate Russ to get what's needed to win it all.
"We have one shot at this" -Pelinka
