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What is your obsession w/ Vucci?dude is a terrible defender
**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins
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Was watching the Andre Ingram highlights and man looking at our roster, we had some good players. I saw Randle, Lopez, Caruso, Zubac, GP2, KCP, Hart
What’s crazy is that only Hart from the list above was traded for AD (among others).
Magic really ****** that first year of Lebron up with his sorry *** signings.
Lebron
Randle
Lopez
Zubac
Caruso
GP2
Kcp
Kuzma
Plus cap space
What’s crazy is that only Hart from the list above was traded for AD (among others).
Magic really ****** that first year of Lebron up with his sorry *** signings.
Lebron
Randle
Lopez
Zubac
Caruso
GP2
Kcp
Kuzma
Plus cap space
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Another try.Messed around and came up with this. Seems realistic. Maybe Reaves and Hachimura get more?
Davis/Bamba/Clowney
James/Hachimura/Gabriel
Vanderbilt/Finney-Smith
Reaves/Christie/Lee
Russell/Paul/Sumner
Two-way players: Swider/Pippen Jr/#47 pick
Notes:
Malik Beasley and #17 for Dorian Finney-Smith, Edmund Sumner and #22.
Mo Bamba gets $10M contract waived, re-signs for $5M.
Noah Clowney drafted with #22 pick. 18 year old big man. I think he can be a stretch "4.5" like Bobby Portis or Serge Ibaka in time. He is a Klutch client.
Team gets hard capped at second apron because TMLE is used on Chris Paul.
Would've liked to sign a bulky center, but there are no good ones available.
Davis/Gafford/Gabriel
James/Hachimura/Saric
Vanderbilt/Brown Jr/Lewis
Reaves/Christie/Lee
Russell/Morris/Hood-Schifino
Notes:
- Malik Beasley and Mo Bamba for Daniel Gafford and Monte Morris. Wizards are trying to clear their books (Gafford is starting a three year-$40M extension). I'd also accept Delon Wright instead of Morris.
- With Gafford as the bulker backup big to AD, I'm signing Dario Saric to be the stretch big off the bench. Hoping he gets squeezed in free agency and signs for the minimum, which might be wishful thinking.
- Team needs a proven guard shooter (LOL) off the bench, so I'm signing Damion Lee. If Lee re-signs with the Suns, maybe the Lakers can finally make the Terrence Ross dreams a reality then.
- The total team salary is near the dreaded second apron. If they wanted to, they could still do the trade with the Wizards, then not re-sign D'Lo and pivot to re-sign Dennis Schroder for the TMLE ($5M) to ease the tax burden.
- Concerned about the backcourt defense and the small forward rotation come playoff time. But it's a flexible roster and that should have a high floor during the regular season at least.
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Lakers finally found their new KCP replacement after seeing how much they missed KCP during the WCF
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Damion Lee is good bench fit IMO, good call. I'd rather have Tyus Jones (if possible), then Delon wright, then Monte Morris, but each are serviceable. Shows we really ain't got much room to do stuffAnother try.
Davis/Gafford/Gabriel
James/Hachimura/Saric
Vanderbilt/Brown Jr/Lewis
Reaves/Christie/Lee
Russell/Morris/Hood-Schifino
Notes:
- Malik Beasley and Mo Bamba for Daniel Gafford and Monte Morris. Wizards are trying to clear their books (Gafford is starting a three year-$40M extension). I'd also accept Delon Wright instead of Morris.
- With Gafford as the bulker backup big to AD, I'm signing Dario Saric to be the stretch big off the bench. Hoping he gets squeezed in free agency and signs for the minimum, which might be wishful thinking.
- Team needs a proven guard shooter (LOL) off the bench, so I'm signing Damion Lee. If Lee re-signs with the Suns, maybe the Lakers can finally make the Terrence Ross dreams a reality then.
- The total team salary is near the dreaded second apron. If they wanted to, they could still do the trade with the Wizards, then not re-sign D'Lo and pivot to re-sign Dennis Schroder for the TMLE ($5M) to ease the tax burden.
- Concerned about the backcourt defense and the small forward rotation come playoff time. But it's a flexible roster and that should have a high floor during the regular season at least.
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Think Tyus would cost more. He's the best of the three, but super small and not sure what he does well in the regular season translates to the playoffs (see the series vs the Lakers).
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He's just a run the offense guy, very low TOs, will find the open man and make the correct basketball decision. above average 3p%, not high volume. Bron loves having ball-handlers/playmakers
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None of what you proposed makes us any better. Fact remains, we need a ACTUAL 6'10 BIG MAN WITH WEIGHT. A solid PG(IF WE CANT GET AN OFFENSIVE MONSTER LIKE KYRIE, GET A DEFENSIVE STOPPER) AND THEN A WING THAT CAN SHOOT THREES AND DEFEND(ROBERT COVINGTON TYPE)
Its really easy. We literally couldve made it to the finals
Its really easy. We literally couldve made it to the finals
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I'll take D rose off the bench at this point
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Time for Dame to steer his way to LA.
If Rob wants to go all in on a star guard, then Lillard is the much better prize than Kyrie.
If Rob wants to go all in on a star guard, then Lillard is the much better prize than Kyrie.
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Looks like Lillard is hinting at Miami though.
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Nah forget it..yo holmes to Bel Air!
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Don’t get me wrong I want Lillard here too, but his passive aggressiveness lately has been pointing to them.
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Up to no good.
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What about Matthew Lillard
Solid actor.
Solid actor.
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Whats crazy is Lonzo grew to be the PG would actually could use right now LOL
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Wasn’t tyus Jones trash in the playoffs against us?
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Dame DOLLA?
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Lakers! Offseason push to keep core intact
At some point in the last week, word began to circulate that UCLA senior Jamie Jaquez Jr. would be picked 18th in the first round by the Miami Heat. He was a late add to the league’s “green room,” waiting at Barclays Center for his name to be called with an arena full of people watching, including his parents and siblings, his emotions totally exposed as lives got changed once every five minutes or so with each pick.
When the Heat eventually made their pick at around 10 p.m. local time, Jaquez was still waiting — and still not totally sure.
No matter how many assurances, no matter how many talks with his agents or his parents, he didn’t really know if everything people had been saying was true.
Then, the cameras gathered around his table and NBA commissioner Adam Silver called his name.
“I was s---- bricks,” he told The Times later that night.
That’s kind of how it goes this time of year, players and teams unsure if what they’re hearing is fact or fiction, if the motivations are genuine or more layered. Forget the marine layer — the smoke you see in the sky is filtering out of agencies and NBA teams’ front offices. Some people call this “silly season.”
A lot of times, you end up getting lied to. Sometimes, like with Jaquez and the Heat, the word that was out there turned out to be true.
The Lakers are a perfect example of this as the team heads into free agency this week.
Publicly, they’ve spoken about their desires to more or less “run it back” — to re-sign their major free agents while trying to build off of the 16-7 record the team had after the NBA All-Star break. Only the Bucks had a better record from that point through the end of the regular season.
“That’s a high priority for us,” general manager Rob Pelinka said after the Lakers got eliminated in the Western Conference finals. “We feel like we’ve got a group of special players in the locker room, they enjoy playing with each other. Darvin [Ham] enjoys coaching them. We know that there’s more growth and improvement in that group, especially if we get a training camp together. So I would say that’s a high priority to keep our core players together.”
It was a public vote for continuity — though it’d be hard to imagine an executive sitting down one day after the conference finals with an eye for tearing down the team, starting with the core that got you there.
But privately, that’s been the message coming out of Lakers camp as well that the public declarations are actually indicative of the team’s plans this summer.
Restricted free agents Austin Reaves and Rui Hachimura are indeed priorities, they’re saying, with the Lakers sending very strong signals that they’ll match offers on both. When league insiders speak about next year’s team, D’Angelo Russell is usually included. He’ll hit unrestricted free agency after a disappointing conference finals, but his value to the Lakers extends beyond the team having his Bird rights, which allows them to re-sign a player while exceeding the salary cap. He had enough big moments in the postseason and in the push to the playoffs, when he wasn’t fighting injuries, for the team to re-sign him.
While the Lakers’ interest in Chris Paul was real (insiders said that the Clippers was the more appealing option), it was always in a complementary role than in a starring one.
In fact, the Lakers’ quiet approach to chasing stars — they were nowhere to be found in any headlines for Bradley Beal, Damian Lillard, Paul George or any other stars who’ve been involved in deals or trade rumors — again lends credence to the notion that they’ll have continuity on their minds as they enter free agency.
Lonnie Walker IV, Dennis Schroder, Troy Brown Jr., Wenyen Gabriel and Tristan Thompson are among the team’s unrestricted free agents.
The lessons from their “three-star” experiment with Russell Westbrook are still fresh on that front, and while D’Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt played minor or no roles in the Lakers’ finale against Denver, the flexibility and balance the team gained with their acquisitions at the trade deadline should have set the stage for the team’s approach this summer.
It’s been the sense around the league that’s how things will go for the Lakers this summer — the team obviously looking to improve around the edges while retaining the core.
But like Jaquez went through on draft night and every free agent experiences, you don’t really know until it’s official.
And since that can’t happen until June 30, when teams can begin negotiating with free agents, all you can do is try to sort through the truth among the lies.
At some point in the last week, word began to circulate that UCLA senior Jamie Jaquez Jr. would be picked 18th in the first round by the Miami Heat. He was a late add to the league’s “green room,” waiting at Barclays Center for his name to be called with an arena full of people watching, including his parents and siblings, his emotions totally exposed as lives got changed once every five minutes or so with each pick.
When the Heat eventually made their pick at around 10 p.m. local time, Jaquez was still waiting — and still not totally sure.
No matter how many assurances, no matter how many talks with his agents or his parents, he didn’t really know if everything people had been saying was true.
Then, the cameras gathered around his table and NBA commissioner Adam Silver called his name.
“I was s---- bricks,” he told The Times later that night.
That’s kind of how it goes this time of year, players and teams unsure if what they’re hearing is fact or fiction, if the motivations are genuine or more layered. Forget the marine layer — the smoke you see in the sky is filtering out of agencies and NBA teams’ front offices. Some people call this “silly season.”
A lot of times, you end up getting lied to. Sometimes, like with Jaquez and the Heat, the word that was out there turned out to be true.
The Lakers are a perfect example of this as the team heads into free agency this week.
Publicly, they’ve spoken about their desires to more or less “run it back” — to re-sign their major free agents while trying to build off of the 16-7 record the team had after the NBA All-Star break. Only the Bucks had a better record from that point through the end of the regular season.
“That’s a high priority for us,” general manager Rob Pelinka said after the Lakers got eliminated in the Western Conference finals. “We feel like we’ve got a group of special players in the locker room, they enjoy playing with each other. Darvin [Ham] enjoys coaching them. We know that there’s more growth and improvement in that group, especially if we get a training camp together. So I would say that’s a high priority to keep our core players together.”
It was a public vote for continuity — though it’d be hard to imagine an executive sitting down one day after the conference finals with an eye for tearing down the team, starting with the core that got you there.
But privately, that’s been the message coming out of Lakers camp as well that the public declarations are actually indicative of the team’s plans this summer.
Restricted free agents Austin Reaves and Rui Hachimura are indeed priorities, they’re saying, with the Lakers sending very strong signals that they’ll match offers on both. When league insiders speak about next year’s team, D’Angelo Russell is usually included. He’ll hit unrestricted free agency after a disappointing conference finals, but his value to the Lakers extends beyond the team having his Bird rights, which allows them to re-sign a player while exceeding the salary cap. He had enough big moments in the postseason and in the push to the playoffs, when he wasn’t fighting injuries, for the team to re-sign him.
While the Lakers’ interest in Chris Paul was real (insiders said that the Clippers was the more appealing option), it was always in a complementary role than in a starring one.
In fact, the Lakers’ quiet approach to chasing stars — they were nowhere to be found in any headlines for Bradley Beal, Damian Lillard, Paul George or any other stars who’ve been involved in deals or trade rumors — again lends credence to the notion that they’ll have continuity on their minds as they enter free agency.
Lonnie Walker IV, Dennis Schroder, Troy Brown Jr., Wenyen Gabriel and Tristan Thompson are among the team’s unrestricted free agents.
The lessons from their “three-star” experiment with Russell Westbrook are still fresh on that front, and while D’Angelo Russell, Malik Beasley and Jarred Vanderbilt played minor or no roles in the Lakers’ finale against Denver, the flexibility and balance the team gained with their acquisitions at the trade deadline should have set the stage for the team’s approach this summer.
It’s been the sense around the league that’s how things will go for the Lakers this summer — the team obviously looking to improve around the edges while retaining the core.
But like Jaquez went through on draft night and every free agent experiences, you don’t really know until it’s official.
And since that can’t happen until June 30, when teams can begin negotiating with free agents, all you can do is try to sort through the truth among the lies.
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Lonzo ball?
Ya boy Hassan has logged in more time on an actual nba court than lonzo has the past 2 years
Bad break for lonzo tho
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Clippers got Plumlee before we could. Plumlee would've helped AD with Jokic in the WCF. Pelinka got him a Plumlee.
Pelinka has this habit of convincing players they like (but don't have any picks to use for) to go undrafted so he can instantly sign them to 2-way contracts.
Gut says CC will be playing more minutes than Bamba come March, April.
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Welp looking more and more like Bamba will be staying. Free agent center position is thin
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Welp
