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They wiff this summer, it's time for Mitch and co to go. 4 straight years of nothing.
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- Jul 25, 2007
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I'm sorry but every call for anyone but D'lo and Kobe (no one is calling) should be "heard" and seriously considered
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John Ireland mentioned that the lakers should trade Clarkson and bass to the Bulls for gasol just so Kobe can finish his season with him....
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Ireland is so damn dumb. Completely clueless. In a game where dlo and kobe were never in the same lineup he asked dlo what it was like playing next to kobe and what he learns on the court with him. Imbecile
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Ireland 
....there needs to be an all things Lakers associated purge ....get everybody outta here. The front office, medical staff, the beat writers covering the Lakers and the radio personalities covering the Lakers. Things are just getting corny, old, & unbearable.
The whole brand needs to be refreshed, I find myself getting more annoyed these days by the people that surround the actual team.
Dr. Buss really rolling over in his grave right now
....there needs to be an all things Lakers associated purge ....get everybody outta here. The front office, medical staff, the beat writers covering the Lakers and the radio personalities covering the Lakers. Things are just getting corny, old, & unbearable. The whole brand needs to be refreshed, I find myself getting more annoyed these days by the people that surround the actual team.
Dr. Buss really rolling over in his grave right now
Man, somebody shoot that ************
Give away Clarkson so Kobe can have Pau for 27 games, are you ******* kidding me? FIRE HIM LA.
- Apr 24, 2006
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So much for fire selling our vets for draft picks
I’ve done this before, but just re-going thru it all on paper one more time.
Not gonna lie, I’m actually enjoying Kobe’s last run. One, because he’s helping us get Brandon Ingram (possibly) and two, he’s had a couple moments here and there that make us all remember what he used to do for us.
We all know his total numbers at this point, all legendary, but some of them are skewed a tad, because of being a teenager, and of course these late years with injuries and what not.
But from 1999 thru 2013 when that Achilles popped, 15 years total, he was a MONSTER. And possibly shows why being ranked #12 by ESPN is a little lite.
As a starter, 1,089 games in 15 years, he went for
29,858 points (27.4)
6,201 rebounds (5.7)
5,597 assists (5.1)
1,705 steals (1.6)
556 blocks (.5)
On 46%/36%/84%
Not quite 50/40/90 but for a “chucker” that averaged 5 boards, 5 dimes, and played All NBA defense to boot, a few percentage points short of 50/40/90 isn’t too shabby.
Among that, the 81, 62 in 3 quarters, 56 in 3 quarters, 4 total 60 point games, 24 50 point games, 120 40 point games, and over 400 30 point games, with 169 double doubles, and 19 triple doubles, as well as an NBA record 12 3 pointer game to boot. And countless game winners.
His peak season came at age 24 when he went nuclear on the NBA 30 points, 7 boards, 6 assists, 2 steals, 1 block, 45/38/84 with career highs in games, steals, blocks, rebounds, and assists.
Not to mention, he did all this fighting thru a broken hand, shoulder, knee, court cases, ankle, finger, wrist, pinkie, and then eventually the Achilles. He missed 93 games in 15 years, some of them were rest, some suspension, and then a few due to injury.
He also lost some from NBA lockouts, 32 games in 1999, and 16 games in 2012. But I didn’t count those as missed games, because they were never played by anybody. Moreso the point is, HAD he played those games, at the pace he did, his numbers would be even filthier than they are now.
In total, with lockouts, rest, injury, suspensions, he missed out on a total of 141 possible games those 15 years. That’s almost 2 full seasons. ON TOP of what he did. At the averages he had, he could have been lookin at somewhere around 34K points, 7K rebounds, 6,600 dimes, 1900 steals, 650 blocks, and over 1,700 three pointers. (note, he eventually gets to all these numbers, but does so with more games at his earliest and oldest ages, weakening his per game averages.)
BTW, this is all just regular season. His playoff totals and numbers are nearly identical. I haven’t sat down and done all the math yet, but same point 1999-2012, his numbers are GAUDY. And improved without all those playoff games where he played 6 minutes as a teenager and destroyed his per game averages.
And those 15 years, Lakers went to the Finals 7 times. Kobe played under Rambis, Phil, Rudy, Phil, Brown, MDA. With Shaq era, with Smush/Kwame/Luke era, with Pau era and his final year with Dwight/Nash/Pau in and out of the lineup era. Multiple coaches, multiple injuries, multiple cores, look at the steady work that man did. For 15 seasons. Age 20-34.
It’s funny, 20 years, 2 jerseys, 10 years #8, 10 years #24, each one have similar numbers/splits for each. Regular season, playoffs, all his numbers fairly similar. Road game in Minnesota in November, or home game at the end of May, young or old, the guy gave you 25-5-5 every single night, across almost 1,700 NBA games. With various ailments, teammates, or coaches. He played every game, hard as he could go that night, and produced damn near identical numbers, no matter the opponent or situation. His two teenager years, and these last couple injury/retirement years the only exceptions.
Does anyone realize that in the history of the NBA, the entire history of the league, nobody has a 15 year stretch that matches this?
Mike “could” have, if he played a couple more years and you remove his 2nd year. And Bron will join the list, very soon. So the list will eventually be, Kobe, and LeBron, are the only two in the history of the game to put up those kind of numbers for a 15 season stretch. But hey, one is #3 all time, and the other is #12 all time. 
Not gonna lie, I’m actually enjoying Kobe’s last run. One, because he’s helping us get Brandon Ingram (possibly) and two, he’s had a couple moments here and there that make us all remember what he used to do for us.
We all know his total numbers at this point, all legendary, but some of them are skewed a tad, because of being a teenager, and of course these late years with injuries and what not.
But from 1999 thru 2013 when that Achilles popped, 15 years total, he was a MONSTER. And possibly shows why being ranked #12 by ESPN is a little lite.
As a starter, 1,089 games in 15 years, he went for
29,858 points (27.4)
6,201 rebounds (5.7)
5,597 assists (5.1)
1,705 steals (1.6)
556 blocks (.5)
On 46%/36%/84%
Not quite 50/40/90 but for a “chucker” that averaged 5 boards, 5 dimes, and played All NBA defense to boot, a few percentage points short of 50/40/90 isn’t too shabby.
Among that, the 81, 62 in 3 quarters, 56 in 3 quarters, 4 total 60 point games, 24 50 point games, 120 40 point games, and over 400 30 point games, with 169 double doubles, and 19 triple doubles, as well as an NBA record 12 3 pointer game to boot. And countless game winners.
His peak season came at age 24 when he went nuclear on the NBA 30 points, 7 boards, 6 assists, 2 steals, 1 block, 45/38/84 with career highs in games, steals, blocks, rebounds, and assists.
Not to mention, he did all this fighting thru a broken hand, shoulder, knee, court cases, ankle, finger, wrist, pinkie, and then eventually the Achilles. He missed 93 games in 15 years, some of them were rest, some suspension, and then a few due to injury.
He also lost some from NBA lockouts, 32 games in 1999, and 16 games in 2012. But I didn’t count those as missed games, because they were never played by anybody. Moreso the point is, HAD he played those games, at the pace he did, his numbers would be even filthier than they are now.
In total, with lockouts, rest, injury, suspensions, he missed out on a total of 141 possible games those 15 years. That’s almost 2 full seasons. ON TOP of what he did. At the averages he had, he could have been lookin at somewhere around 34K points, 7K rebounds, 6,600 dimes, 1900 steals, 650 blocks, and over 1,700 three pointers. (note, he eventually gets to all these numbers, but does so with more games at his earliest and oldest ages, weakening his per game averages.)
BTW, this is all just regular season. His playoff totals and numbers are nearly identical. I haven’t sat down and done all the math yet, but same point 1999-2012, his numbers are GAUDY. And improved without all those playoff games where he played 6 minutes as a teenager and destroyed his per game averages.
And those 15 years, Lakers went to the Finals 7 times. Kobe played under Rambis, Phil, Rudy, Phil, Brown, MDA. With Shaq era, with Smush/Kwame/Luke era, with Pau era and his final year with Dwight/Nash/Pau in and out of the lineup era. Multiple coaches, multiple injuries, multiple cores, look at the steady work that man did. For 15 seasons. Age 20-34.
It’s funny, 20 years, 2 jerseys, 10 years #8, 10 years #24, each one have similar numbers/splits for each. Regular season, playoffs, all his numbers fairly similar. Road game in Minnesota in November, or home game at the end of May, young or old, the guy gave you 25-5-5 every single night, across almost 1,700 NBA games. With various ailments, teammates, or coaches. He played every game, hard as he could go that night, and produced damn near identical numbers, no matter the opponent or situation. His two teenager years, and these last couple injury/retirement years the only exceptions.
Does anyone realize that in the history of the NBA, the entire history of the league, nobody has a 15 year stretch that matches this?
Mike “could” have, if he played a couple more years and you remove his 2nd year. And Bron will join the list, very soon. So the list will eventually be, Kobe, and LeBron, are the only two in the history of the game to put up those kind of numbers for a 15 season stretch. But hey, one is #3 all time, and the other is #12 all time.
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Couldn't help but to think about NT Laker fans when i saw this tweet.
All those hours, days, weeks, months of constant hypothetical trade machine ****, none of it ever comes to fruition.
- Apr 24, 2006
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All of this.
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MVP
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Couldn't help but to think about NT Laker fans when i saw this tweet.
All those hours, days, weeks, months of constant hypothetical trade machine ****, none of it ever comes to fruition.
shots fired
- Apr 24, 2006
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I heard that interested parties wanted lakers to take back salary
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Wooo Horford is staying put in Atlanta.
Now I need the Hawks to go down in flames.
Now I need the Hawks to go down in flames.
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not so much this year, but wait til the summer Free agency startsCouldn't help but to think about NT Laker fans when i saw this tweet.
All those hours, days, weeks, months of constant hypothetical trade machine ****, none of it ever comes to fruition.
we gon get cookin!
- Aug 2, 2008
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Told you guys it wasn't coming.
No reason to add contracts for Bass or Hibbert.
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- Apr 30, 2004
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Yeah, we're not, though.Originally Posted by LoveHateSelfnot so much this year, but wait til the summer Free agency startsOriginally Posted by LiCeNseD To BaLLCouldn't help but to think about NT Laker fans when i saw this tweet.
All those hours, days, weeks, months of constant hypothetical trade machine ****, none of it ever comes to fruition.
we gon get cookin!
I have negative faith in our FO.
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No reason to.
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I love Woj, but I really don't think he has the scoops on the Lakers. Ramona recently said on 710 that don't be surprised if Byron comes back for one more year before they blow it up in 2017.
Would love to have thibs or Walton tho.
Would love to have thibs or Walton tho.
- Feb 17, 2007
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Why bring him back again? Why...
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Only plausible explanation is nobody wants this job at this point, may or may not change after free agency.
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Could it be that maybe they're just waiting until the last month/few weeks of the season to fire him? Helps Byron save face a little bit cause he would be let go almost at the end of the season rather than now. And also, if you you let him go now, you might have a Bickerstaff situation where all of a sudden the team starts winning games and we all know we don't want that.
- May 8, 2013
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Well according to John Ireland the lakers want to give Byron a veteran team and are willing to trade picks to do so. Don't be surprised if the lakers make a dumb move by trading DLO for Teague or someone like that
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